RUSH: Ken in Livonia, Michigan, welcome to the EIB Network. Great to have you here.
CALLER: Yeah, Rush. I wanted to comment that unfortunately once again when we look at President Barack Obama's decision to support the protesters in Egypt --
CALLER: -- it's not in the interests of the American people. There is no way that you can create out of the belief system of Islam a democracy anywhere close to what we have in America.
RUSH: Yeah. They don't believe in it.
CALLER: No. And since the overwhelming majority of the people in Egypt are Muslims, it's unavoidable to end up with another Islamic state like Iran.
RUSH: Now, do you think Obama, I mean, clearly he knows this, right?
CALLER: I do believe he knows it.
RUSH: So why is he supporting the uprising?
CALLER: Well, I really believe -- and look at what he didn't do when Iran was having their uprising -- I believe that he does want another Islamic state there, for whatever personal reasons, because --
RUSH: That's a serious charge.
CALLER: Well, when the Iranians had their uprising, he said and did nothing. Now, the Egyptians, they're having theirs and he's getting involved, and he knows -- again, anybody that checks into the teachings of Islam, looks at the facts, there is no way that you can get, like I said, an American democracy out of their belief system.
RUSH: Well, I know. There is not a Muslim nation democratic in the way we are anywhere in the world. You're absolutely right about that. I have found it really curious that Obama has, from the get-go, appeared to embrace this uprising. Muslim Brotherhood, throw Mubarak overboard.
RUSH: I remember Jimmy Carter, he didn't say anything about the Iranian regime stepping down, either. You know, back in 2009, I mean. People forget this. In 2009 there was a huge uprising for freedom in Iran. Jimmy Carter didn't say Ahmadinejad must go, but Jimmy Carter's out there saying Mubarak must go. By the way, how do we get rid of anybody with the name Barack in their first name? Well, in their last name, Hosni Mubarak. He pronounces it Mubarak, but still. How can this country ever trust anybody with such a foreign name as Mubarak? Anyways, we gotta get rid of the guy.
Now, ladies and gentlemen, just to give you an illustration of how things have changed, it's a good teaching moment for you leftists out there, including those of you in the media and in the Democrat Party. What went on this weekend and is still going on, we had a major uprising in Egypt. We had riots in the streets. There weren't too many women, by the way. Notice how few women you see in the protests in Egypt. We know that there were women protesters in Iran in 2009. Some of those women were shot, a number have since been hanged by the state. But it doesn't seem that there are that many women protesting in Egypt, which to me says that the protesters might not be all that tolerant or concerned about freedom after all. We'll just have to wait and see on that. But when all this was going on, where were the three network news anchors?
Now, normally something like this, Egypt, we've got a relationship, they would be over there. I mean if this were happening during the Bush administration, Saturday night all three nightly newscasts would have been done from Cairo. They'd be over there and they would be blaming it on America, "This is what happened with the war in Iraq, this is what it's led to. Now we have another unstable ally," blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
RUSH: Chris in Raleigh, North Carolina. Great to have you on the EIB Network. Hello.
CALLER: Rush, thank you very much for taking my call.
RUSH: You bet, sir, it's my pleasure out there.
CALLER: My question is, and I don't want to sound like an anti-capitalist, but how much is President Mubarak worth? I've heard rumors over the past couple days that he's worth in the tens of billions of dollars. I just wanted to know if that's really true.
RUSH: I have no idea. So what if he is?
CALLER: Well, my question, he's the only person over there who doesn't have King next to his name and he happens to be one of the wealthiest people out there, from what I've heard. So I just had a question to see if that's really the case or if that's just something that they're just making up to infer that he's even worse off than he is.
RUSH: Let me understand. You are hearing that he's a multibillionaire and that is why they're protesting him, and --
CALLER: Well, adds to the actual -- infuriates the discrepancy between the rich and the poor, so I guess if people hear that he's worth like 13, $20 billion and you hear people are rioting over food riots I think that would explain to people more, but --
RUSH: Well, you may have a point. We give Egypt one and a half billion dollars a year. It has to go someplace. I hadn't heard that. Who is it that is making this claim that Mubarak's a multibillionaire?
CALLER: I heard it on obviously the liberal media, said something to that degree.
RUSH: And they're saying this within the context, of course, Mubarak's a bad guy?
CALLER: Of course.
RUSH: Multibillionaire, bad guy, no wonder there are protests?
RUSH: Yeah, so they're trying to equate this with the protests at AIG and all that and those bonuses. I see. Yeah. So they're protesting Mubarak because he's a multibillionaire, and they're obviously protesting the king of Jordan 'cause he's a multibillionaire. Well, if they start protesting Gates and Buffett, they may have something. But I think that's all a smokescreen. I think this is classic. You have a story. You've got an uprising. The media has templates. They have templates and narratives and they're just picking one that they like because nobody knows yet if this is good or bad for us. Have you seen the definitive explanation or analysis for this? Well, you've seen attempts at it but I mean there's nobody with certitude.
For crying out loud, when you have Jimmy Carter saying Mubarak must go that's reason enough to put the brakes on. So the fact that the left would be saying he's a multibillionaire fits perfectly the template. Obviously he's out of touch, he's raping his country and these poor people have finally figured it out. How much is Putin worth? Putin's gotta be worth billions. Nobody dares ask him. How much is Hugo Chavez worth? Nobody dares. How much is Fidel Castro worth? How about the Saudi king? How much is George Soros worth? For crying out loud, if we want to start talking about this we're just gonna end up illustrating that the wealthiest people in the world are liberal Democrats and totalitarians, and that they've acquired their wealth by virtue of stealing it. That's all we're gonna confirm here. Chris, I appreciate the call.
White Plains, New York, and Matt. You're next. I'm glad you waited. Welcome to the program, sir.
CALLER: Yeah, hi, Rush. Listen. This is a huge deception going on in the Middle East. This is not a display of democracy trying to work. There's a little history here of Mubarak. Back in '95 there was an attempted assassination by way of car bomb on his motorcade. It failed. At that time when he was rising in power Israeli relations were improving, and he actually came to the White House to visit Bill Clinton. The assassins were linked to the Muslim Brotherhood, more specifically Osama Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda. And that was in '95. In '96 Saudi Arabia expelled Osama Bin Laden. He went to Sudan. And we know a fatwa was issued in August out of a London Arabic newspaper where Osama Bin Laden, following the attempted assassination on Mubarak and his expulsion from Saudi Arabia, called for jihad against the US and all its allies, and then from there we had the two embassy bombings in Africa, the USS Cole, they sent operatives into this country to learn how to fly planes, and then they carried out 9/11. Luckily Bush came on the scene. The weak foreign policy that was established under the Clinton administration changed completely under Bush and we kept them at bay for the last ten years. However, this is the Muslim Brotherhood's chance to take back Egypt, which is a strategic place in the Islam globalist vision for the world. This is absolutely not democracy at work. This is being propagandized. Anybody who thinks that Mubarak is bad, the next one after him could be ten times worse. That's why Clinton supported 'em, that's why Bush supported 'em, and it's very odd that Barack Hussein Obama does not support him.
RUSH: Yeah, I have to tell you I'm with you on this. And as I say, not to be redundant here, but I started getting e-mails at dinner Friday night from people who were aghast that Obama was coming out in support of a radical Muslim group in terms of taking over control of Egypt. People were shocked by it.
CALLER: They want Egypt back, Rush, they want it back, and, you know what, Barack Hussein Obama is gonna give it to 'em and we're gonna have problems.
RUSH: Well, let me add to your history. Now, Bush pressured Mubarak to allow freer elections in 2005, and the Muslim Brotherhood won 20% of the seats in the Egyptian parliament. That surprised everybody. The size of that victory scared Washington and Cairo. And Mubarak responded to this by purging the organization. And that culminated in the Muslim Brotherhood's defeat in last year's legislative elections, which everybody said were rigged by the ruling party. So I'm sure this is a factor, too. There are a lot of things that are not widely reported or even known. Mubarak is actually a hardliner against Islamists and has declared that he's never gonna let them hold power again. That's why they hate him. So, you know, Mubarak is certainly the lesser of a bunch of bad options. But this is exactly how we lost Iran. The Shah of Iran was said to be horrible. He was said to be rich and wealthy and stealing money from his own people, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And Jimmy Carter thought it was outrageous, Shah of Iran was a human rights violation, here comes Ayatollah Khomeini, and a lot of people are worried that this scenario is replaying itself because we've got the second term of Jimmy Carter taking place here. Matt, I'm glad you called. I appreciate it. Always a pleasure, thanks el mucho.
RUSH: Let's go back June 16th of 2009. By the way, folks, I know all of this is redundant, and I know you know the answer to the question, it's rhetorical. I just want to mention it anyway. It's the old, "What would happen if Bush were president during something like the uprising in Egypt?" By the way, Snerdley, do you think the Muslim Brotherhood will blow up the pyramids? You don't? You don't think they'll try to blow up the Sphinx or the pyramids? Well, maybe let some hack group do it, but I wouldn't be surprised. I mean look at what they've done to things that were found in Afghanistan. Any rate, if this were Obama -- uh, sorry -- if this were Bush, can you imagine the scrutiny the media would be applying to Bush, all of the stories asking why Bush didn't see this coming? All the stories about the Bush intelligence apparatus, where was the CIA? Where was the Defense Intelligence Agency? All the media would be filled with stories like that. How come no one saw this coming?
Well, the same question needs to be asked about Pharaoh Obama. Why didn't the Pharaoh see all this coming, particularly given his wonderful relationship with these regimes and their people? Obama went over to Egypt, made a speech, outreach to all of Muslimdom. He even grew a quasi-mustache there for the appropriate facial hair during the speech. Where is the scrutiny? Why no questions about the lack of intel on this? Why no questions about foreign policy screw ups? You notice how Mrs. Clinton escapes all criticism. Hell, folks, I mean Obama goes to a going-away party for a staffer that's not going away on Saturday night at the home of a media babe, with other members of the State-Controlled Media there, Saturday night, while Egypt is in flames. The only interest the media has in that story is, "Hey, how come we weren't invited?" But now, you know if this were Bush, well, jeez, there would be hearings. Where are the Republicans on Capitol Hill demanding where's the intel on this? Can you imagine the Democrats on Capitol Hill and in the Senate and in the House demanding hearings already to find how come we didn't know this was coming? A major ally, what's going on? Here's Obama, June 16th of 2009 in the Rose Garden, President Lee Myung-bak of the Republic of Korea, they had a joint press conference and here is Obama.
OBAMA: You've seen in Iran some initial reaction from the supreme leader --
OBAMA: -- that indicates he understands the Iranian people --
OBAMA: -- have deep concerns about the election.
OBAMA: It's not productive given the history of US-Iranian relations to be seen as meddling, --
OBAMA: -- the US president meddling in Iranian elections.
RUSH: Oh, oh, oh.
OBAMA: What I will repeat and what I said yesterday is that when I see violence directed at peaceful protesters, and --
OBAMA: -- when I see peaceful dissent being suppressed.
OBAMA: -- wherever that takes place it is of concern to me and it is of concern to the American people.
RUSH: And now I'm gonna go play golf. So we won't meddle, we're not gonna meddle in Iran, but here's a Washington Post headline on a story today. It's written by Karen DeYoung. "Obama Administration Aligns Itself with Protests in Egypt with Call for 'Orderly Transition.'" On Sunday Obama "firmly aligned himself with the protesters," under the guise that they are democratic. Well, the protesters are the Muslim Brotherhood. We didn't wanna meddle in Iran. We were happy to meddle here. You go figure it out.
RUSH: Mohamed ElBaradei, no friend of the United States, is a Nobel Prize laureate (that means he won a Nobel Prize, was a past winner of the Nobel Peace Prize). They give 'em away to anti-Americans. He got a Peace Prize because he stood away while Iran was nuking up. This is the UN's ElBaradei, Mohamed ElBaradei. The atomic energy dude, yeah. I know. He despises our guts. He despises our guts. And Sunday morning CNN's Fareed Zakaria's GPS, he talked to former International Atomic Energy Agency general director, Mohamed ElBaradei. "You've heard Obama's statements in which he says that he's asked Mubarak to act on his promise to change, to bring democracy. Do you want him to do more of that?"
ELBARADEI: (accented) I continue, in honesty, as friend of the US, that your policy right now is a failed policy, is a policy that is lagging behind, is a policy that is having the effect here in Egypt that you are losing whatever left of credibility. This is an honest advice, Fareed. It absolutely has no credibility here in Egypt.
RUSH: There you have it. Our policy (impression), "No credibility in Egypt! We don't like you. Egypt doesn't like you. Obama's policy is horrible. We don't like you, you stink, you suck, you are a'horrible. We don't have anything to do with you. You just are rotten!" So here's Gibbs, the White House press briefing, mere moments ago.
GIBBS: We have said all along that there are legitimate concerns and grievances had by the Egyptian people for a long time. We're not picking between those on the street and those in the government.
GIBBS: I'm not gonna get into a series of hypotheticals. I think you heard yesterday very clearly the secretary of state say there must be an orderly transition, that a whole range of issues -- some that I just talked about -- have to be addressed --
RUSH: Right, yeah.
GIBBS: -- that there has to be meaningful negotiations --
RUSH: Right, right, right, right.
GIBBS: -- with a broad cross-section of the Egyptian people --
RUSH: Right, right, right.
GIBBS: -- opposition groups --
RUSH: Right, right, right.
GIBBS: -- that go to answering the very core of the freedoms that people desire.
RUSH: We don't take sides? We don't take sides? Wait 'til you hear, however, what he said next.
RUSH: Okay, so Gibbs at the White House press briefing says, "We're not taking sides," but that there must be "an orderly transition." That's what we just played. That's the position: There must be an orderly transition but we're not taking sides. A reporter said, Hey, Gibbs, "Can you define what you mean by orderly transition?"
GIBBS: (haltingly) The transition has to include, uhhh... An orderly transition has to include a process of negotiations with a broad cross-section of the Egyptian people, including those that are in the political opposition at the moment.
REPORTER: With the current government?
GIBBS: Uhhh... Well, I -- I -- I mean, I don't think the grievances are gonna be met unless there's some measure of, uhhh... of that involved.
RUSH: They've stepped in it here is what this means. "We don't take sides but there must be an orderly transition. Well, we just mean process of negotiation with a broad cross-section of the Egyptian people." Process of negotiation? With a broad cross-section the Egyptian people? "With the current government?" "Well, I -- I -- I don't think the grievances are gonna be met unless there's some measure of that involved, yes." So they've stepped in it here and they're trying to worm and weasel out of this. The official program observer has a question. What would it be? (interruption) Mmm-hmm. (interruption) You tell me! The question has been asked: "What is the overall United States foreign policy," not just with Egypt, but everywhere.
What is the objective of US foreign policy?
That is a good question. Now, I haven't heard them say. Well, Mrs. Clinton may have said something somewhere down the line since she got the gig at State. I don't recall it. I don't know... (sigh) I don't know what it is. One thing I do know is that our... I wager that a majority of the American people think that the Obama regime's foreign policy is what's best for the United States around the world. Wouldn't you think that's what most Americans think most presidents are engaged in is policies with nations around the world that are in our own best interests? But this regime has looked the other way when the Iranians have nuked up, or they don't look at all. Play this ElBaradei bite again. To me...
This is Mohamed ElBaradei, the former International Atomic Energy Agency Mohamed ElBaradei who told us, "The Iranians? You guys are worried about 'em and you shouldn't be. All they're trying to do here is get some nuclear power to modernize their country. They're not weaponizing." Now, ElBaradei, his name's been tossed into the ring here as a replacement for Mubarak. And he was on with Fareed Zakaria, "Fareed Zakaria GPS." I didn't know that Fareed Zakaria's show was a navigational aid in an automobile. Apparently it is. And Fareed Zakaria GPS asked Mohamed ElBaradei, "You've heard Obama's statements. He says he's asked Mubarak to act on his promise to change, to bring democracy to Egypt. Do you want him to do more than that?" I don't know who Zakaria means, Obama or Mubarak here, but the question, do you want him to do more than that.
(replaying of sound bite)
RUSH: So, if I could sum up, Mohamed ElBaradei is telling us that our policy in Egypt has no credibility. As far as I know our "policy" in Egypt has been to point a finger at Mubarak and say, "You better loosen up there, bud. You'd better have more freedom there, more elections or what have you," and ElBaradei is saying that Mubarak hasn't done that and because we haven't really forced him to (impression) "that we have no credibility. None whatsoever. I can tell you honestly, as friend of the US, your policy right now is failed policy -- a policy failed!" I'll, stop. They're gonna then say Ahmadinejad's mad at me and start attacking me for that.