RUSH: Madison, Wisconsin, one of our favorite places in the country, by the way, and this is Mary Jo. Mary Jo, hi. Great to have you with us.
CALLER: Hello. I am a state worker in Wisconsin, in Madison, and I really want to know why you haven't brought up Governor Walker in the last few days. You've been on Obama's case. I'd really like to know what you think of all the dirty politics going on with Governor Walker and how Senator Fitzgerald just got caught with his pants down (unintelligible) union busting.
RUSH: Mary Jo?
RUSH: I spoke about Governor Walker yesterday on this program. I talked about this.
CALLER: Oh... Well, I have limited time. I listen to you on the way to work, so I apologize. But what is your view on what's going on now?
RUSH: What specifically do you want my view on?
CALLER: Is Walker above the courts now? If Walker doesn't have to answer to anyone, who's gonna keep him in check besides the courts?
RUSH: I guess my reply to that would be how's it feel?
CALLER: How does it feel? How do I feel?
RUSH: Well, because the federal judge has told Barack Obama his health care is unconstitutional, and Obama said "(raspberry) you" and is continuing to implement it.
CALLER: I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about Wisconsin.
RUSH: That doesn't matter. Wisconsin, the nation, it's the same thing. You think you got lawlessness on parade here. You got a rogue judge there, Maryann Sumi, who made a purely hack, flawed ruling on the open rule requirement not having been met and granting a temporary restraining order, and the governor said there was nothing illegal about what we did and I'm gonna go ahead and publish. The left constantly behaves in a lawless fashion, above the accepted norms of what happens when you win or lose elections, and now it's turned around on you, and you're looking to me?
CALLER: Oh, no, it's not turned around. Basically yesterday in court she said, you will not publish this law --
RUSH: I know --
CALLER: -- or you're gonna suffer the consequences. She's already put it into -- (unintelligible)
RUSH: I know -- (crosstalk)
CALLER: -- administration and they already got everything going.
RUSH: See, all of this is really not the issue to me.
CALLER: The issue is workers' rights, and the issue is discrimination.
RUSH: No. No, no.
CALLER: Why can every other person in the state of Wisconsin that doesn't work for the state have a union?
RUSH: Mary Jo.
CALLER: Except for state workers.
RUSH: Mary Jo.
RUSH: The issue to me is -- I'd like to ask you a question.
RUSH: What is it that gives you the right to claim that your neighbors pay you twice as much as what they make? Where do you get off --
CALLER: They don't pay twice as much. I could make twice as much money in the private sector.
RUSH: Where do you get off as a public worker union demanding that your neighbors pay for your health care for the rest of your life and your pension for the rest of your life?
CALLER: No, that's the federal government. I think you've got that wrong.
RUSH: What kind of mind-set is it that would make you look at your neighbors that way?
CALLER: For one thing I want to clear up one little item. I am a union member. I was never pro-union before this, to be honest with you. The union didn't do a heck of a lot for me --
RUSH: Well, I'm sorry for the assumption because you were very happy to report Governor Walker breaking the law.
CALLER: Yeah, okay, let me keep going with this.
RUSH: But the issue to me is -- (crosstalk)
CALLER: No, the issue is Governor Walker -- (crosstalk)
RUSH: -- framed by my question is -- (crosstalk)
CALLER: -- let me explain something to you that you probably don't know.
RUSH: Governor Walker is attempting to save your state. He is attempting to save your job.
CALLER: No, he's not.
RUSH: You and your cohorts seem to not care about any of that. All that matters to you is that your demands are met.
CALLER: I don't have demands. That's what I want to explain to you. (crosstalk)
RUSH: I can't relate to you because I've never asked somebody else to support me. (crosstalk)
CALLER: -- pay attention.
RUSH: You seem perfectly comfortable asking your neighbors to support you at twice what they make. (crosstalk)
CALLER: We had already agreed on these raises with Governor Doyle. Governor Walker -- (crosstalk)
RUSH: I'm listening to everything you're saying, but you are trying to filibuster. (crosstalk) I am not going to be taken off subject. The subject is not Governor Walker. The subject is not the judge. The subject is where did we get to in this country where certain citizens think it's the responsibility of other citizens to pay their way, whatever they want, health care, pension, at twice what the people paying them earn? Where did we get there? How did we get to this point?
CALLER: I think you've got your figures wrong. I would like to correct your figures on that.
RUSH: I would be embarrassed if I were you.
CALLER: I just want to know -- no, I don't think so. Because I've been offered work in the private sector making at least $10 more an hour and better benefits. I'm sorry. The only reason I stay with the state is because I think I'm making a difference in my job.
CALLER: I'm one of those people that thinks I can help.
RUSH: Hey Mary Jo, Adolf Hitler made a difference. What is this making a difference business? What are you doing that's making a difference?
CALLER: Okay, one thing, okay, what gives the Republicans the right to tell me that I cannot collectively get together with people about my work, about my benefits, about anything?
RUSH: Do you want the answer?
CALLER: That's my right as an American.
RUSH: Because you are collectively bargaining against your citizens. You are collectively bargaining against your neighbors. You're not bargaining against some fat cat CEO flying around in a jet who owns the company. The issue here is not about what you want. The issue is about what is affordable, what the citizens are able to pay. And they aren't able to pay what you are demanding. Collective bargaining, you are not engaging in collective bargaining when you're a public employee union. You're shaking down your fellow citizens is what's happening. And the state's either gonna go bankrupt or this is all gonna get fixed and we're going to bring things back into balance. That's where we are. The governor is trying to save the state, save your job and everybody else's job. You don't see it that way because you have the bias and the prejudice of union membership. But who elected you to get health care for free? Who decided you get health care and your pension free for the rest of your life? Where did that happen? It's unsustainable. It can't go on. Mary Jo, I'm glad you called, set me up here.
RUSH: You notice the effort or the technique here from Mary Jo from Madison? They want these debates focused on Walker in this case in Wisconsin. "Let's focus on the governor. What do you think about the governor being lawless, Mr. Limbaugh? I haven't heard you talk about that," which we did yesterday. Or Boehner. These unions, the left-wing Democrat groups are targeting us. They're targeting you and me. This has nothing to do, in the end, with Scott Walker or John Boehner or Mitch McConnell or Eric Cantor or Paul Ryan. It has everything to do with us, folks. It has to do with our lives, it has to do with our taxes, it has to do with our liberty and freedom.
It has to do with our country. Mary Jo, you are our employee. You are not our employer. You work for the taxpayers. One of your (no doubt) big heroes, FDR was among many who said creating public union workers will not work. Unionizing government workers will not work because they collectively bargain against the nation. They are collectively bargaining against their fellow citizens, their fellow citizens become the enemy. And FDR knew, Mary Jo, that as Democrats they could not afford to make people angry at government. Because the Democrat Party was building itself, establishing itself as the party of government, the party that made people love government, the party that made people look to government for every solution in life.
And it would not be productive if people start getting mad at the government. And you're that happening, or you are intensifying it. These people are at war with us, not Scott Walker. This is what you all have to understand here. I don't care whether it's Wisconsin or anyplace else. Ohio, Indiana, wherever these public sector union battles, budget battles are taking place, it is about our liberty. It's about our freedom. It's not about those people, these governors or anything of the sort. It is about us, and they want it focused on these political people, politicians. They want it focused on them because they think they can demonize them. Well, what they are in truth doing is demonizing you and me.
That's ultimately who they are making demands of: You and me.
Be it federal workers or in the case of Wisconsin, be it the citizens there.
RUSH: Saratoga Springs, New York. Hi, Brian. Welcome to the EIB Network. Great to have you here.
CALLER: Thanks, Rush. Proud extremist here.
RUSH: Yeah, you bet.
CALLER: Two quick questions. Who has a better shot to be president, with the independents primarily, Rush, would it be Trump or Michele Bachmann?
RUSH: Oh, man, it's too soon to say on something like this. Right now who would have the best shot at being president, Bachmann or Trump? You'd have to say Trump just on name recognition alone. At this stage, you'd have to say that. I mean far more people, many more people know who Trump is than Michele Bachmann.
CALLER: Okay. Well, we'll see what happens. Second question. With the Obama administration talking about so much chaos in the world, don't you think we should refer to President Obama as Maxwell Smart and Hillary Clinton as Agent 99?
RUSH: Maxwell Smart. (laughing)
CALLER: (laughing) I thought I'd give you a little levity, Rush.
RUSH: Did you say Agent 99?
CALLER: Agent 99.
RUSH: Agent 99. Yeah, I wish we were able to look at it and laugh that way, I actually long for that. All right [related to the names of buildings and name recognition], the Barack Obama Male Leadership Academy in Dallas is part of the Dallas Independent School District. The Barack Obama Male Leadership Academy at B.F. Darrell is part of the Dallas Independent School District.
Here's John in Albany. John, welcome to the program. Nice to have you with us, sir.
CALLER: Good afternoon, sir. My lucky day.
CALLER: We here in Albany, New York, have the pleasure of the "National Extortion Association," the NEA, getting together to have a little protest at our State Capitol.
RUSH: Oh, yeah.
CALLER: They're very upset about the cuts that Governor Cuomo has put through vis-a-vis the education, et cetera, and they're getting a thousand people to come visit today with the intention of sleeping over in the Capitol tonight, a thousand people.
RUSH: A thousand NEA types sleeping --
CALLER: Well, they say they're students and educational oriented people but it's funny --
RUSH: Let me tell you, this is the tip of the iceberg of this stuff, John --
CALLER: I know.
RUSH: -- as these governors continue to have to make budget cuts. Nobody's been using real money for a long time. It's come due now. It can't go on anymore, and people showing up in Albany or the people in Madison, Wisconsin --
CALLER: They're being bussed in.
RUSH: Yeah, of course. This is to create intimidation and chaos so that people like you will be okay if the governor caves.
CALLER: I'm not going to be okay. I'm not gonna be okay at all. I just watch buses pull up on a street near here that, you know, they pull up in front of the SEIU headquarters and the state union headquarters --
RUSH: This is pure harassment. It's pure intimidation. It's in your face.
CALLER: But I don't understand how they get permission to sleep over in the State Capitol. I mean if the Tea Party people wanted to do that, forget about it.
RUSH: You know, I guess that's an important thing but obviously somebody's greasing the skids for 'em.
CALLER: Oh, yeah. The state police, the other union. (laughing)
RUSH: Maybe. Maybe. But whether they have permission or not, they're still gonna do it. Doesn't matter.
CALLER: That's probably true.
RUSH: It's the era in which we live. They're gonna storm the gates whether they have permission to do it or not. They're gonna be in your face if you get down there. This is pure intimidation, rent-a-mob. They're being instructed. For crying out loud, folks, it really isn't anything all that new, but in the modern era let's not forget shortly after Obama was immaculated he's practically encouraging people to go up to suburban New York, Connecticut, and so forth and protest on the front yards of executives who work at AIG over those bonuses. In Washington, DC, SEIU and other union people, the new technique, by the way, is to storm the houses, the homes of where people live. Where did they have permission for that? They don't. They just do it. It's all about intimidation. It's all about saying, "I don't care if you're out of money, we're still getting ours." And there's a method to this madness. If there's total chaos and collapse, that's good, too. It just means some really high authority will have to move in and solve the problem, i.e., more power from some government entity, be it state, federal, or even local.
The die is cast. We now see where this is headed. There's gonna be a real test coming up here. It was in Wisconsin. It's gonna go to Iowa, Ohio, Indiana. Will the people, after they elect people to stop this, will the people who showed up in the elections to elect these people, will they support the actions that they demanded? Or will they cower? You know, these politicians, the Kasichs of the world, the Scott Walkers, they need the support of people who elected them. Because, as I said earlier in the program, the real target in Wisconsin is not Scott Walker. He's the face of it and he is the focus of their attention, but he's one person. It's easy, but the target is all of us. Folks, the target here is the American way of life. And it's happening all over this country. It has varying intensity levels but it's happening all over the country.
This argument that we've been having, how are we gonna manage our affairs? How do people get compensated? How do people earning a living in this country? It's all coming due now. Rubber is meeting the road, pedal hitting the metal, whatever the cliche you want to use, it's go-for-broke time, particularly because there isn't the money to continue to pay a lot of people the way they have been in the past. These are desperate times, very serious times, and don't think when you hear people ragging on John Kasich or Scott Walker or any other politician it ends with them. It's at all of us. We elected Walker. The people elected walker in Wisconsin are every bit the enemy Walker is. And what's ironic about that is that we're the ones that pay those people. It is our taxes, income taxes, but based on our working that compensates these people.
In a real world there would be some gratitude. There would be some thank-yous. Everything is out of kilter. It's 180 degrees out of phase. They think we ought to be thanking them for, what, making a difference, whatever that means. It used to be that there was a common respect and appreciation. Working for the government wasn't that big a deal. It didn't scare people. It didn't intimidate people. Now it does. The government's getting involved in as much of people's lives as possible, and not just the federal government. States are doing it, too.