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Annette: Women Have Palin Envy

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RUSH: Highland, Illinois. Annette, great to have you with us. Hello.

CALLER: Thanks for taking my call!

RUSH: You bet.

CALLER: I have the answer for you about why Republican women and a lot of women don't like Sarah Palin, and I'm probably gonna cause World War III here but it's a numbers game. Because Sarah Palin is a "10,"and anyone I've found that below an "8" can't stand her. Women are women first and conservatives and Republicans second, and the women that I talk to are so jealous of her. I don't see them that way with Michele Bachmann, but I don't know that Michele Bachmann has what Sarah Palin has. I love Sarah Palin, and I find that when I bring this up with women, they're just insanely jealous.

RUSH: Really?

CALLER: Yeah. Because they can't give me a reason, and I see in other areas. Now it doesn't matter if they're conservative or they're liberal, they're like eaten up with jealousy -- and if you look at Sarah Palin, she's beautiful, she's smart -- no matter what anyone says, she's smart -- she's got a nice looking husband, she's got beautiful kids, she's got a lot of integrity, and women do not like women who have it all. They just don't. Unless they're really secure. If they're really secure, then they do, but every woman that I find that is real negative about her when I ask 'em what it is about her, they can't put their finger on it -- and then they have to take a good look at the woman, and if she's not above an "8," she hates Sarah Palin.

RUSH: Well, now, wait a second here, now, the "8s" and "10s" and all this is a little subjective. What may be an "8" to you might be a "6" or a "5" to somebody else.

CALLER: Well, sure. So like in my book, if I look at someone and that's how it's perceived, I mean, they just are really, really jealous of her, and women are like that. They are.

RUSH: The starting point here with these women, they don't like Palin, in their mind she's a "10"?

CALLER: Yes.

RUSH: Right. And they aren't, whether they're an "8" or a "1," they're not a "10"?

CALLER: Right. Because if Sarah Palin was really ugly and she had cankles and stuff, they wouldn't hate her so much. I'm just telling you from a woman's perspective, that's how women think.

RUSH: Now, now, now. (laughs) It's interesting you bring this up. Uh... (sigh) There's no win here. I thought I had a couple of questions to prove the point, but there's no winning this.

CALLER: Well, what do you mean? Do you feel like I've put you on the spot?

RUSH: I'm thinking of Democrat women and --

CALLER: There aren't any! There aren't any.

RUSH: -- your theory is applicable there, 'cause --

CALLER: Right.

RUSH: -- you don't find, on your 1-to-10 scale, many. You just don't a whole lot of threats there.

CALLER: Right, and I find -- I find --

RUSH: In the way you claim that Palin is a threat, being a "10." I mean, let's be honest. You just don't see it over there on that side.

CALLER: No, and that's what I'm saying because I find -- I find --

RUSH: In fact, remember --

CALLER: I find -- I'm sorry, go ahead.

RUSH: Undeniable Truth of Life Number 24, as written by me in 1987: "Feminism was established in order to permit unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society." That's one of the primary functions of feminism.

CALLER: And the men who don't like her, I find that the men who don't like her don't like her are because they don't have the same even, like -- well, I'm from a Mexican background, but -- machismo. They don't have even what Sarah Palin has, so she even makes the men, some of the men insecure.

RUSH: Interesting.

CALLER: I mean, I have talked to people and look at this ever since she started running with McCain, and during the campaign I was almost physically attacked by a woman at Target because she had Obama all over her car and my husband was in Iraq and I had a sticker on my car, and she started picking on me about it -- about the war -- and she started commenting about Sarah Palin, and I said, "What don't you like about her?" She couldn't even put her finger on it. She was, like, "I just hate her," and she just really got in my face.

RUSH: So I take it this woman in Target was not a "10"?

CALLER: No, she was about a "3," and I said to her, "I think you don't like her 'cause she's really attractive," and my 20-year-old son literally had to get in between she and I 'cause she was coming after me. I'm telling you that's what's at the root of this. Women are very catty.

RUSH: So what you're --

CALLER: Unless they're secure they don't like woman who have it all.

RUSH: What you're saying here is it's Palin envy?

CALLER: Absolutely.

RUSH: Like Pelosi.

CALLER: It's Palin envy.

RUSH: Pelosi's the closest thing the Democrats have to a... No. That's not it. That's how desperate it is on that side. You're right, yeah.

CALLER: Yeah. She's kinda nutty, but they don't have anyone who compares. I mean, who? Seriously, Rachel Maddow? I don't know. Hillary Clinton? And I find the same thing with Ann Coulter.

RUSH: No, you see on the left that's precisely it. On the left, being a "1" or "2" is the resume enhancement. It's the badge of honor, because there's so much sympathy and feeling sorry for people over on that side of things.

CALLER: Well, and then people say stuff to me about Palin 'cause they know I like her, when I say that to them, you know, they'll say, "Why do you like her?" I have a lot of reasons I like her but if I say, "She is really hot," and I'm married, I'm a heterosexual, but she's a beautiful woman and if I say, "You know, she's really hot," they stop. They're done. No more conversation.

RUSH: Are you...? What are you? How would you..? You look in the mirror, what are you?

CALLER: Well, my husband better say I'm a "10."

RUSH: Okay, so you're a "10," so you're --

CALLER: No, I'm not a "10." My husband better say it. I'm not a "10." I don't know. I don't rate myself. I don't really... I think if I looked at myself that way, I would be like a lot of other woman and not like women who were "10s," you know what I'm saying?

RUSH: Yeah, but you like Sarah Palin who is a "10."

CALLER: Right. But that's because I don't really compare myself to her. I like her, you know? And I'm happy with myself, so I don't have that comparison going on. I mean, if I look at her, I say, "She's better looking than me and she's got it all together. She's smart," but I want someone in office who's smart and more charismatic and who has it all together. I want someone who's got it more together than I do.

RUSH: Hmm. I'm just thinking, it's too bad I don't have a Twitter account or I could have this woman send me her picture, a tweet, and... (laughing) I'll tell you something. Folks, if you've not been with this program since the outset, let me give you a little history. Thanks, Annette, for the phone call. Now, this is all kind of amusing to me because when we're talking about presidential candidates I couldn't care anything less other than policy. That's all that matters to me. You know, policy, energy, enthusiasm, passion, those are the things that matter to me, clear as a bell. Everybody got all caught up on the "historical" nature of Obama's candidacy. First black president, perhaps!

Okay, fine. Get over that after the first day because what matters is his ideas to me. The rest of the stuff is just a distraction, doesn't matter to me. Palin, to me her appearance is irrelevant to whether or not I would support her as a candidate, but I'm probably -- in fact, I know that I am -- in a really small minority when it comes to that. For me, I mean we're at crossroads time in this country. This is huge. Like I said yesterday, this next election is going to be about what kinda country we are. Are we gonna be a socialist, European country or are we gonna be a capitalist, market based, free economy? I mean, that's what this next election is gonna be.

If somebody comes along and is able to articulate what I believe in a persuasive manner and genuinely believes it, then sign me up. I couldn't care less what they look like. But I do remember, for those of you who have not been with us from the get-go way back when, one of the criticisms of talk radio was that it did not appeal to women, that issue-oriented talk radio did not appeal to women, that they wanted to talk about carrot cake recipes and kids -- soap opera updates and that kind of thing -- which, of course, is not what I do. The powers that be, we would huddle and we'd come up with ways to try to make the program interesting and attractive to women. I said, "Well, now, we got a basic problem.

"If you're telling me that they don't like issues, then there's nothing we can do because I am not gonna talk about carrot cake recipes and I'm not gonna talk about kids, and I'm not gonna turn this program over to that. I'm not gonna become Oprah. I'm not gonna do it." So we came up, we came up with a plan here to introduce this program to more women -- and it was very simple. Women who wanted to appear on this program as callers had to have a photo of themselves on file with us. We required every woman, before she could ever appear, to have a photo on file. (interruption) My mother was alive. Oh, God did I get in trouble! My sister-in-law...

We were at the bar at the Carlyle and I forget who the artist was, but some pianist and singer were playing, and the family screaming at me in there one night to the point we had to move because it was interrupting the performance of the musical artists. My sister-in-law was in my face, "Why would you do this? Why would you do this?" The thing is, it was responded to and was one of the most successful things that we've ever undertaken. Women started sending their pictures in droves. Women in California would go out, pose on rocks on the beach! Snerdley was in charge. Snerdley was in charge of the cataloging operation. That's exactly right. Yeah, what was that Snerdley? What was his name? Mario. Mario, Snerdley(Bo) got into constant arguments over who would have first crack at the mail. I'll tell you, we were being inundated.

We were being inundated cataloging all these women and making sure that they were on file. We instituted the policy, and for what? What did it last about, about a couple of months? It worked. Women called and they'd go on hold and we'd ask, "Do we have your picture here?" and they'd say, "Well, yes." We'd get the information from 'em, we'd go try to find it in the file and if we indeed found the picture we'd put 'em up. Now, none of the women who sent in pictures had a problem with it. Not one. But the women who didn't send in picture thought it was the most demeaning thing. They thought that it was just as improper as anything they could imagine. Demeaning, insulting, and all of these things. They accused me of this being a cheap way of hunting.

Yeah. I guess you could say I was the forerunner to Weiner except I never wrote back. Anyway, it caused a lot of problems, but it did alert a lot of women to the existence of the program -- and it did work. It functioned. It was a brilliantly conceived and flawlessly executed plan. But I'll never forget some of the responses, the e-mails I was getting from women. "You know that the unattractive ones aren't gonna send in their pictures! You know that. So those of us that aren't attractive, we don't have a chance. We don't have a prayer." So I was being accused of discriminating against, and Annette here has just reminded me of that great period in our program's past. (chuckles)

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RUSH: Joe in St. Louis, I'm glad you waited, sir. You're next up on the EIB Network. Hello.

CALLER: Rush, I love Sarah Palin. I love Michele Bachmann. And I love Harold Cain. And I have no respect for Romney or Gingrich or any of these guys. When that guy shot up those people in Arizona and the Democrats and all the Keith Olbermanns and the Ed Schultzes started attacking Sarah Palin, not one of our men stood up to defend her, not one of them.

RUSH: No. In fact, they got mad at her for standing up to defend herself.

CALLER: That's why I'll never have any respect for them. And was it Charles Krauthammer who said, how do you feel about Sarah Palin's finger being on the button, was it Krauthammer that said that?

RUSH: I don't know. I don't know if Charles Krauthammer said that or not.

CALLER: I got a better question. How do you think our enemies would feel about having Sarah Palin's finger on the trigger? That's the question. That's what I care about.

RUSH: I think they might be a little frightened. I think they might be a little fearful.

CALLER: I think they'll sit up and take notice. I really do.

RUSH: Yeah.

CALLER: You know what? I trust her, Rush. She might not be the most intellectual person, but I believe she would surround herself with the people she needs, she would get the advice she needs, and I trust her that she would make the right decisions and come to the right conclusions. And I feel the same way about Michele Bachmann and Harold Cain. I don't necessarily feel that way about Romney or Gingrich or any of those guys.

RUSH: All right, it's Herman Cain, by the way. Not to nitpick, but if I don't correct you on his name I'll get grief from people for not being fair. It's Herman Cain who you're talking about. I appreciate it, Joe, thanks much. Look, people had the same fears about Reagan, his finger on the nuke, thought Reagan was an idiot, Reagan was not intellectual enough. And, by the way, folks, I told you two or three weeks ago when Mitch Daniels pulled out, keep a sharp eye on Huntsman, that the full-court press would begin from the inside-the-Beltway Republican establishment to push Jon Huntsman, governor from Utah as a serious candidate. Michael Gerson today in the Washington Post leading the charge, former speechwriter for George W. Bush. The inside-the-Beltway Republican intelligentsia is making itself known now. Jon Huntsman's a serious candidate, replace Mitch Daniels, who's not running, who is also serious. Decent temperament and all that.

Folks, I don't know how long this website's gonna be up, but there's one that I want you to see. DirtySpendingSecrets.com is the name of it, DirtySpendingSecrets.com. It's an amazing website. If you want examples of the most ridiculous and outrageous spending in Washington, go to this website, DirtySpendingSecrets.com. There's so much stuff here it's hard to come up with a favorite. Try this. Allowing the US Postal Service to select 1,100-plus employees per day to sit in empty rooms. They're not allowed to work, read or play cards or watch television or do anything. But we pay 1,100-plus employees per day in the post office to sit in empty rooms that cost $50 million a year.

Washington, DC, will spend $615,000 on an archive honoring the Grateful Dead. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and staff have charged taxpayers $101,000 for in-flight food and liquor on Air Force jets over the past two years for her family and friends as she's transporting them all over the country. The GAO classified almost half of all credit card charges on government credit cards as fraudulent, improper, or embezzlement. And the examples include gambling, Internet dating services, liquor, lingerie, iPods, and Xboxes. Government credit cards being used for these things. The website name is DirtySpendingSecrets.com. They've gone in there and they just try to find the most ridiculous examples of federal spending and publish them. I don't know how long it's going to be up and we're probably crashing the servers anyway but DirtySpendingSecrets.com.

Judy in Marietta, Georgia, great to have you on the EIB Network. Hello.

CALLER: Hi, Rush. Listen. Thank you. You give voice to all my thoughts.

RUSH: Thank you.

CALLER: And I want to tell you that I agree with that woman that called you. I had a conversation with my husband yesterday. I am 71 years old. I was a ten in my youth, and now I'm maybe an eight for an old lady but I guarantee you that it's the reason these women hate her. I told my husband that. She's smart, she's absolutely beautiful. They hate her because she's got everything, and I just had to confirm that when I heard that woman on. Honest to God. And the fellow before her. I'd vote for Sarah Palin in a minute, and so would all my friends.

RUSH: I have to tell you, folks, we're talking about Annette; she called about an hour ago to explain, because I'd be saying I'm getting so much hate mail from women in my subscriber website who want me to stop talking about Sarah Palin. They hate Sarah Palin. They hate hearing me talking about Sarah Palin. They're gonna stop listening if I don't stop talking about Sarah Palin. So Annette called and said the reason is that they're just jealous of her being a ten, she's hot. Now, I have to tell you I've been looking at the e-mail ever since Annette made the comment, I'm being overwhelmed here in near record numbers from people who are writing to agree with Annette, women and men both, that that is why so many women hate Sarah Palin, that they're just jealous, or whatever they are because she's attractive, they think, and, quote, unquote, has it all.

I guess I shoulda thought of that on my own. This is not an official agreement with Annette. This is all a learning experience for me. To me, it's not about any of that. I remember going nuts when I heard her make her speech when she was first with McCain, when she accepted -- I think they were in Indiana, and she'd flown all night from Alaska to have the family there, and I remember raving about that speech. You know, when she talked about how she'd saved money as governor, selling the airplane, that speech. I thought it was a great speech. I remember raving and raving and raving about it. It wasn't because how she looked. It was the substance and what she stands for. I don't know. I'm not trying to sound like an old-fashioned fuddy-duddy here, folks.

I really do believe this next election is as important and crucial as any we've had in my lifetime, and certainly the top five in the nation's history. I'm appalled that there's such wishy-washy, gutlessness on the Republican side. We have a landslide waiting to happen. We have a landslide that could be ours. Obama's not just beatable, he is landslidable. But it isn't gonna happen with moderates. It isn't gonna happen with people tiptoeing around. It isn't going to happen with people operating in fear. It isn't gonna happen with people trying to show everybody that they're the smartest people in the room.

It's going to happen with passion, conservatism, believability, able to be infectious, pervasive and all of that, genuinely passionately believing in it. It will lead to a landslide victory, one that's needed, and a lot more elections in the future. This is not just one or two elections to fix this. A major challenge this country faces. So to the extent that somebody like Palin comes along and articulates things that I happen to believe in and she ends up being assaulted for what are, to me, specious reasons, then I will be offering up my reaction which some might say is a defense or what have you.

I'm fascinated here by all this e-mail. Snerdley, I mean it's near record numbers from people. If I'd had time we should have opened the phone calls to take calls from nothing but women asking what they thought of what Annette said. Maybe we can still do it at some point.

I gotta take another time-out now. This the fastest three hours in media. It's going by faster than I have time to make sense of it sometimes.

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RUSH: You know, come to think of it, I think that's why some people hate me: Because I'm so good-looking. I never thought of it before, but it makes perfect sense. I'll tell you something else: If some people can vote for Obama because he's black, then doesn't it make sense you can expect some people not to vote for Palin because she's pretty or because they think she is? Really. How many votes did Obama get because he was black? It was a shocking number, folks. There's no way of really knowing. I'll bet you it's a shocking number.

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RUSH: You know, for the last, what, 20, 30, maybe 40 years since the advent of modern feminism women have been told that they can have it all. Hot husbands, lot of babies, high profile career, nice house, organized life, great bodies, all that stuff -- and whenever a woman comes along and appears to have it all, they shoot her down, 'cause it isn't fair. Especially when the woman happens to be a conservative. It's just not fair!

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