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Biden Comes Out for Gay Marriage

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RUSH: This is Joe Biden, and this was yesterday on Meet the Depressed on NBC.  David Gregory talking to the vice president during a discussion about gay marriage.  Now, why did this come up?  Why...? (interruption) Well, I know.

Look! There's the picture.  There's the picture. Nobody in the upper deck on Sunday.  It's on Fox right now. That's the picture taken by Romney's campaign guy at Obama's coming-out party on Saturday at Ohio State.  There's nobody in the upper deck.  And we had a caller from there saying that students were going door-to-door all week trying to get students to show up at Obama's event, and they were saying, "It's not political. It's just the president showing up."  Folks, I have to tell you something.  Obama has written off "white working-class voters."  They've done this.  It's not arguable.  Don't doubt me. 

They've made a decision to write 'em off.  Basically minorities, people on welfare, and college kids, that's where Obama's going to get reelected.  And they couldn't fill an arena at Ohio State University with The One arriving, and they thought it would fill up.  They're going back and they're trying to relive 2008.  One of the problems with college kids is Obama was a fad.  Now that's not hip anymore, not cool. We've been there, done that.  We did that four years ago. 

Plus now, in the four years since Obama was gonna unite everybody and bring about all this utopian stuff, all these college students are graduating, and they don't have jobs. And it's a tough sell to get them to blame George W. Bush.  George W. Bush hasn't been part of their life for four years.  What's Bush got to do with it?  They invested everything in Obama.  You know, celebrity lists are strictly media lists.  In list/out list. Who's in/who's out. Who's high/who's low. These fad things. 

Obama's on the "out" lists now with people who follow the celebrity culture.  I make both, so I'm never out of it.  I'm always on the "in" list or an "out" list somewhere, and it's always been the case.  But Obama is on the "out" list. It's a fad. It's "been there, done that," with these college kids.  They made an absolute, all-out effort knocking on doors, "Hey, the president's coming Saturday! Why don't you come? It's not gonna be political. He's just gonna show up," and that couldn't even get 'em out.  It was totally empty in the upper level.

Anyway, Biden was talking about gay marriage.  Now, I know the pro-gay marriage forces are really leaning on Obama here, but this is an issue they'd really -- I don't know -- prefer probably not to deal with.  Anyway, Gregory asks Biden this.  He says, "The president has said that his views on gay marriage, same-sex marriage, have 'evolved' but he's opposed to it.  You're opposed to gay marriage, same-sex marriage, Mr. Vice President.  Have your views evolved?"

BIDEN: (whispering) What this is all about is a simple proposition: "Who ... do ... you ... love?  Who do you love, and will you be loyal to the person you love?"  And that's what people are finding out is what -- what all marriages at their root are about, whether they're marriages of lesbians or gay men or heterosexuals.

GREGORY:  Is that what you believe now?

BIDEN:  That's what I believe.

RUSH:  Okay.  So the vice president has come out for gay marriage. The media is going nuts with this news today.  Let's play the next sound bite here, because Gregory said, "Well, are you comfortable with same-sex marriage now? Is that right?"

BIDEN:  I am absolutely comfortable with the fact that men marry men, women marrying women, and heterosexual men and women marrying are entitled to the same exact rights, all the civil rights, all the civil liberties.

GREGORY:  In a second term, will this administration come out behind same-sex marriage, the institution of marriage?

BIDEN: Well, I -- I -- I can't speak to that. Uh, I -- I -- I -- I -- I -- I don't know the answer to that.  I take a look at when things began to change. Those are social culture changes.  I think "Will & Grace" probably did more to educate the American public than almost anything anybody's ever done so far.

RUSH: Oh, wow. Okay.

BIDEN: And I think people fear that which is different.  Now they're beginning to understand.

RUSH:  So "Will & Grace," an NBC sitcom, did more to educate the American people on same-sex marriage than the Human Rights Campaign, the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, the Massachusetts State Supreme Court, and all the gay individuals that went out there and got married. "Will & Grace" did more.  And, of course, then Entertainment Tonight follows and the E! Entertainment TV did more for the... I'll tell you something.  At today's White House press briefing, the spokeskid, Jay Carney, took a question that was probably a plant about same-sex marriage. 

And it gave Carney a chance to once again say that Obama's views on the issue are "evolving."  So you have Joe Bite Me over the weekend let it be known that he is comfortable with the idea of same-sex marriage 'cause he watched "Will & Grace." So they're trying to play that card and stir up that part of their base this week without Obama committing to it.  Obama's still "evolutioning"; Obama's still evolving.  But Biden is there. 

So somebody is gonna have to put together a DVD package of select episodes of "Will & Grace" and get 'em over to Obama so that he, too, can get up to speed on this issue.  David Gregory did point out, to his credit -- I have to say, he did point out -- the hypocrisy of Biden attacking Romney for saying he wouldn't have pulled the trigger on killing Bin Laden when Biden himself said he was opposed to killing Bin Laden. So Gregory did let Biden have it on that, but here they're trying to have it both ways with this issue. 

But this is what their campaign has been reduced to is this niche campaigning.  I tell you what they're doing. When they say that they are not interested in the votes of white working-class Americans, that's a big chunk.  That's the old Reagan Democrats and so forth.  White working-class voters -- the middle class, lower middle class -- they're not interested in that.  They're not interested in the mainstream.  They're not seeking reelection from the mainstream, unless the mainstream is the unemployed, college students, and militant radical minorities. 

If that's who the mainstream is, that's where they're headed.

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RUSH: Grand Rapids, Michigan.  Eric, hello and welcome to the EIB Network.  Hello, sir.

CALLER:  TERA dittos, Rush.

RUSH:  Thank you, sir.

CALLER:  Long-term listener.  Hey, I'll be real quick about this.  I was just listening as Joe Biden was pontificating about the tremendous sociological impact that a sitcom has on shaping our societal values. And the press is bowing in homage to his great insight. But I'm remembering back when Dan Quayle mentioned how Murphy Brown was shaping the ideas and values of single mothers, and he was laughed off the airwaves.

RUSH:  Well, at the time, yes.  But, you know... I don't know how much longer it was. It was either somewhat recently or not long after it happened, Candice Bergen actually apologized. Remember that? And said that the vice president was right.  I don't remember the time frame in which Candice Bergen did that.  I don't know if it was, you know, within weeks after Quayle had made the comments. But, still, you're right.  When a conservative cites a sitcom as a learning and teaching example, "Why, wonderful and great!" When a conservative criticizes one as a bad teaching instrument, then, yeah, it's not a pretty sight.

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