RUSH: We go to Louisville. Doug, great to have you. I'm glad you called. Welcome to the EIB Network. Hello, sir.
CALLER: Rush, it's an honor.
RUSH: Thank you.
CALLER: I'm going back to your earlier topic about the new pope and whether or not he's too conservative in his stance with gay marriage and abortion and such. I'd like to start by saying that I am a gay man, and I am perfectly comfortable with his conservative stance on those issues, and here's why. People seem to be confused about politics and religion. They've got 'em exactly reversed, and I hope the people from Guinness are listening because I'm gonna give you a comprehensive definition of both in less than a minute, okay? (chuckles)
CALLER: Faith is not about adjusting your religion to suit your life. It's about adjusting your life to suit your religion, okay? And that's why I'm okay with whatever stance that particular church chooses to take on that particular issue. It's a matter of faith, not politics.
RUSH: Well, let me ask you a question about that. I mean, you're a gay man. Do you want to be able to get married or are you married?
CALLER: We had a commitment ceremony. We essentially didn't call it a marriage. You know, what I want out of life... Let me just say, "gay" is an adjective. There's a lot of things I want out of life for a lot of reasons because I'm a lot of things, okay?
RUSH: No, I understand.
CALLER: And you can't have everything all at once.
RUSH: So why are you not irritated? Are you Catholic?
CALLER: But I understand what religion is. Faith is about adjusting your life. See, here's where people miss the point. You have to have politics and religions together, and when you understand what they are, they're both useful. But people have them mixed up exactly reversed these days. They're expecting politics from religion and religion from politics. Politics should be... Here's a saying I came up with for politics: "It's not for the pen of law to rule the hearts and minds of man. It's for the hearts and minds of man to rule the pen of law." If you understand that that's what politics should be, and you understand what religion is, and you don't confuse the two, they will both serve you well.
RUSH: You know, this guy may have a point, that people's view of politics and religion are exactly 180 degrees out of phase.
CALLER: And therefore neither one of them can serve you properly.
CALLER: There's a balance to both.
RUSH: There's absolutely no question about it. Look, I'm glad you called, Doug. Thanks very much.
RUSH: Now, as to our last caller, what was the man's name, Mr. Snerdley? Doug from Louisville. This guy, I'll tell, he was on to something. He said that people are reversing politics and religion. I'm going to paraphrase him. He doesn't exactly say it this way, but what his point was that people -- and this is really on point, and it's very curious. People have blind faith in their politics and doubt their religion. He thinks it should be the other way around. You ought to have total blind faith in your religion because that's what religion is about, is faith. You invest in your religious beliefs. You invest in your church. You invest the trust in that faith. You don't doubt that. It's politics that you're supposed to be a little curious about, uncertain of, question those people. But, no. People have blind faith in their politics and doubt their church.
RUSH: Look, folks, it's this simple. For leftists -- and leftists today are Democrats. I mean, the Democrat Party is the repository for liberals and leftists today, and their church is the state. There is a reason why Karl Marx and every communist, socialist philosopher has wanted to do away with religion. They want there to be only one faith: the state. Blind, unalterable faith in the state. And the church, any church, is a competitor and therefore a threat. People who exhibit blind faith in their religion must be found and turned. I don't care where you go, I don't care what communist philosopher you read, they have to wipe out religion. And they go to great lengths to convince their people that there is no god.
The old Soviets used to do it. Fifth grade classrooms or whatever the equivalent, they'd put two pots, each containing flowers, in a window. They would tell the students, "We're gonna water one. We're gonna take care of one. We're gonna leave the other one to God." And of course the flowers that they took care of and watered and fed bloomed and flourished, and the ones that they left alone withered away and died. And they said, "See, the flowers left to God died. There is no god." And that's how they did it. And they did it with many more examples than that. This is why, folks, I am so unalterably opposed to liberalism. One of the many reasons why I am just unalterably opposed to liberalism.
The state is not the repository of all the answers. The state is not where you ought to have your blind faith. The state will never care as much about you as you care about yourself. The state will never care for you as much as you care for yourself. The state will never be as concerned about you as you will be for yourself. But it's hideous. And so that's why all these leftists in the media and elsewhere constantly attack the Catholic Church and the pope. Competitors. They are competitors. That's why they must be discredited or manipulated, intimidated into reforming. It won't happen, but that's what the effort is and why it will never go away.
RUSH: Here's Sissy in southern Maryland. I'm really glad you waited. It's great to have you on the program. Hi.
CALLER: Hi, Rush. It's an honor to speak to you.
RUSH: Thank you so much.
CALLER: This will be a day that I will put down in my diary even though I don't have a diary. "Today, I talked to Rush."
RUSH: It's worth starting one, then.
CALLER: I just wanted to say two things. Thank you very much for what you said about our pope. I'm a Catholic, I'm a practicing Catholic -- and especially for listeners of yours that are not Catholic, our pope stands for something, unlike the liberals, who don't stand for anything but to destroy things that are tradition. I appreciate so much how you described our pope.
RUSH: Well, I appreciate your saying that. I think he's a remarkable man, to have been essentially exiled by the left-wing Jesuits in Argentina, and then start teaching math in high schools in little towns in northern Argentina. Pope John Paul II rescues him, makes him an archbishop and then a cardinal. Now he's the pope.
CALLER: And he's a humble man, and I think the liberals, they don't like that. They don't know what humility means, and Pope Francis is a humble man.
RUSH: Well, the left is afraid of that kind of certainty. Remember now, Karl Marx and every communist philosopher ever has done their best to eliminate religion. Religion is a competitor to the notion that the state is what's infallible. The state is where you are to have your blind faith, not religion. Gotta get rid of it.