RUSH: Jeremy Irons is an actor. He's starring at present in a Showtime series called The Borgias, which is a great series, by the way. I think it's starting season three or season four on Sunday. It's about Rodrigo Borgia. He was Pope Alexander the VI. It's about his papacy. The Borgia family, by reputation, was one of the earliest corrupt power broker families that ended up running the Catholic Church and the papacy. But it's a fascinating, well-acted program.
Jeremy Irons also appeared in one of my all-time favorite movies called Margin Call. He played the CEO of a Wall Street firm that was modeled after Lehman Brothers, which was allowed to go out of business rather than be bailed out during the financial crisis in 2008. He played Claus von Bulow in the movie about Dershowitz. Claus von Bulow was accused of murdering his wife, Sunny von Bulow, for the money. Dershowitz defended. Ron Silver played Dershowitz. Reversal of Fortune I think is the name of the movie.
Jeremy Irons is a rock-ribbed Libertarian, and he did an interview in the Huffing and Puffington Post about gay marriage. He said that he didn't have a strong feeling either way, but he wondered if allowing same-sex marriage would open the doors for a father to marry his son, in order to be able to transfer property without paying taxes. As you know, a spouse inherits with no estate tax being charged. Husband dies, wife inherits, wife dies, husband inherits, no taxes.
So Jeremy Irons says, "It seems to me that now they're fighting for the name. I worry that it means somehow we debase, or we change, what marriage is. I just worry about that."
Now, he's on the right track here,, talking about how we're bastardizing language. My old point that once marriage becomes heteromarriage or opposite-sex marriage, we've lost the debate, we're willing to change the name. Well, marriage is marriage. It equals one thing. But when we allow for the name change, and that's what he's basically saying here, "I just worry about that, we debase or change what marriage is." I mean, tax-wise it's an interesting one, he said, "because could a father not marry his son?"
And Josh Zepps, the host at the Huffing and Puffington Post, said incest laws would prevent that. You couldn't have a father marry a son because of incest. And Jeremy Irons said, "It's not incest between men. Incest is there to protect us from inbreeding.
But men don't breed." So incest wouldn't cover a father marrying a son, 'cause there's no breeding going on there. So you couldn't possibly have any problem with a birth that would come from that arrangement 'cause there wouldn't be a birth. Now, if that were so, and then if I wanted to pass on my estate without death taxes, I could marry my son, and I could pass my estate on to him.
He said lawyers are gonna have a field day with same-sex marriage. The lawyers are gonna have fun like you can't believe. His point is, we have no idea if this ever does happen in a sweeping nationwide way, he said, you can't imagine the creativity that's gonna be attached to this and you're not going to be believe what marriage becomes. Jeremy Irons. The Borgias, by the way, is not for people under 18. I don't want anybody to misunderstand here. It's got its share of blood, guts, and gore. It takes place back in the seventeenth, sixteenth century. It's got crazy sex. I mean, there's nothing redeeming about it in that way, but it is still fascinatingly interesting, and they keep it as true to what is known historically about Rodrigo Borgia as possible. He played the CEO named Tuld, which is a takeoff on the real CEO at Lehman Brothers, Dick Fuld, but another great performance in that movie, Margin Call. That's who he is.
RUSH: You know what else Jeremy Irons said? He said, "Living with another animal, whether it be a husband or a dog, is great." He means, what a great idea! Now, folks, if I had said that, the media would just be having a conniption. Jeremy Irons says it, and they don't even bother to report it. There's really not much widespread reporting on his, "You know what? A father could marry a son to avoid estate taxes," and he said (paraphrased) then the lawyers would say, "We got creativity here. You don't know half of what's gonna happen here if it's legalized."
Nobody's reporting that.
The Huffing and Puffington Post did the interview and it's sitting out there all alone here.