RUSH: To the phones. We're gonna start in Tampa. This is Lon. I'm glad you called, sir. Great to have you here. Hello.
CALLER: Hello, Rush. Thanks for taking my call.
RUSH: You bet, sir.
CALLER: I am your age. I'm 62. I'm retired. I'm gonna bring everything together, or three things together that you talked about earlier and you had a caller yesterday talk about, and that was the fact that work... I'm retired, and I wouldn't mind working. But the fact is, the cost of going to work is extremely expensive.
RUSH: Okay, let me interrupt you because some people may not have been here. It's hard to believe, but some people may not have been here yesterday and might not have heard the caller.
RUSH: The caller yesterday, folks, said that people like me -- and maybe many of you -- are missing it all on immigration. The reason we need amnesty is that Americans won't work anymore. They just don't want to. They don't have to! They're all eating, they're all watching TV, they've all got their phones, they've all got cars to drive around in, they've got government welfare benefits here and there. They don't have to work, and yet businesses need employees, and the illegals are the only place they can get 'em. That's what he said, and it was a provocative thing because a lot of people I could see were nodding their head in agreement with the guy.
CALLER: That's exactly right, and just like you were saying about people not going to football games or baseball games, there's not an incentive to pay that kind of money and you can do it at home. The whole thing is... Like in my position, if I go to work, I gotta pay for tires and gas, and my daughter drives 40 miles to work every day because she has to maintain her family. Between taxes -- county, state, federal -- gasoline, child care, it's so hard for people today to be able to go out there and want to make a decent living. And I blame this all on Obama. The whole thing is to keep everybody as part-time workers, to keep everybody down. It's a horrible thing. It's not the America that I grew up in.
RUSH: So you're basically saying that the costs of going to work, the costs of having a job are not defrayed sufficiently by what you make to make it worthwhile for more and more people.
CALLER: I think a lot of people think that way. I really do, and I feel it.
RUSH: What about the old saw, though --
RUSH: -- that work is how you define yourself? Work is where you derive your self-worth. Work is what you love! Work is what you accomplish. It's what you achieve, in addition to whatever you do with your family. Work is a fundamental human need because it provides so many things that the human psyche needs. There's always been a cost to getting to work. There's always been a cost to having a job, driving, commuting, the lack of time with family, whatever it is. There's always a cost, but it's always been a necessity. You had to do that to eat. If you didn't do that, you weren't gonna eat after a while. You know, you had two weeks of unemployment. Seven or eight times, I've been fired, and I can tell you that I couldn'ta stayed on the beach for 99 weeks and eaten. I couldn't have had food every day. It couldn'ta happened. It can happen today.
CALLER: I agree with you wholeheartedly, Rush, but the point is we've got so much regulation, we have so much taxation... And I still believe in the American spirit. I know your listeners out there, and I know there's a bunch of them working their rear ends off. I've worked in the government, I've worked in the military, and I've worked in the private sector, and I'm gonna tell you: The private sector was the hardest work I ever did in my life. I have more respect for those people than anyone else, and I think we're gonna get through this, but I still think there is that portion of this population that -- some of them -- may give up working.
RUSH: Well, I hear you.
CALLER: It's not worth it, you know?
RUSH: I knew that this guy yesterday who offered this, it's a very provocative thing because certain people at some point are always gonna run down their own country and run down the people in it. I can't tell you how many people I run into who think the people in this country are stupid 'cause they elect Obama, or they're stupid because of the news they watch, or they're stupid 'cause they care about what Kim Kardashian's doing. People think this all the time. So when you say, "Well, you know, some people don't even want to go to work, and they don't have to," your point is that Obama and his policies have made work the least profitable it's ever been. Converting people to part time, that doesn't pay much.
RUSH: You don't get the work or the health care benefits if you're converted to part time, which is why you were converted. The gasoline price is skyrocketing because of Obama's war on fossil fuels. So you've got a point. I mean, I can't dispute what you're saying in that regard.
CALLER: And the whole thing is, we just gotta turn out and get these bums outta there because we've gotta get back to the principles of what this country was founded on. I really believe that.
RUSH: Well, I do, too, profoundly. But you know, the problem is, I think what you're basically saying is that the policies of this regime -- the government incentives -- are for people to not work. There's a payoff for not working. A, you don't have to work. But you're gonna get food stamps multiple ways. You're gonna have food out the wazoo. You know, I may be making too big a deal of this. It may be a generational thing. I just I remember the first time I got fired, I was petrified. It was the first job I'd ever had after I left home, and I was petrified. There wasn't any unemployment compensation.
There wasn't any severance, and I was faced with finding something fast or going home, going back to Missouri. But eating -- finding money for food -- was a challenge. That's what it was all about. You have to eat to stay alive. So I always used that as a way to illustrate how that comparative pain there is to being unemployed today. Everybody unemployed is still eating and they're eating well, and they've got cars and they're driving them and they've got their flat screens and are watching 'em and they have their smartphones and are using 'em. There just isn't as much incentive.
So you're right about that.
The dangerous thing is this is what Obama's design is.