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Was the System Really Broken if Most People Liked What They Had?

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RUSH: Let's go to Jay Carney.  This is on CNN Today this morning. 

Chris Cuomo is talking to him.  He said, "Look, the numbers about early returns, who's signing up, they're terrible, Jay. I mean, six people.  I mean, it's just how it is.  They're very low.  The real question is, how are you gonna handle not getting to critical mass, which is the key to make sure this affordable, the Affordable Care Act.  That 'affordable' piece is this pool of coverage.  What do you if you don't get the numbers that you need?" 

CARNEY:  First of all, we are going to get the numbers and (sic) we need.  We have to look at Massachusetts, which, under Governor Romney, introduced a health care reform plan very similar to what the president has introduced here.  Uh, and in their first month of enrollment, only 123 people enrolled for premium-paying plans, uhhh, in Massachusetts.  In the end they had massive enrollment towards the end of the enrollment period.  So, you know, uh, we always expected enrollment figures to be low.  We were saying that before October 1st.

RUSH:  Right. You expected six people, Jay?  And then you cite Romney?  Why don't you tell us about how he ran health care while putting his dog on the roof of his car, and why he didn't care if some guy's wife got cancer, Jay?  You dare go back and cite Romney?  By the way, Romneycare in Massachusetts is a disaster, too.  They blamed the website crash on high volume.  Do you remember this, folks?  The website crashes the first day and they say, "Oh, there were so many people trying to get through!"

They signed up six people! 

Now, they had 4.7 million unique visitors, but six people signed up and they're blaming high traffic for this.  These are not the sound bites I thought we had. Carney is out there saying, "Well, it only affects 15% of the people.  This only affects a few people."  Fifteen percent of the people? We're talking millions of real people! You know, this is the thing that really frosts me.  These people on the left, these Democrats -- people like Obama and Harry Reid and Pelosi -- for some silly reason, they get all the credit for having the big hearts.

They get all the credit for having all the compassion, and they "care about the little guy."  The little guy is getting shafted and screwed by these people for 50 years!  The little guy takes the brunt of every one of their policies, and now the little guy was lied to.  The little guy and his family were lied to about being able to keep their plan, and this is important to people.  I hate that it's become this, by the way, but health care is oftentimes the most important thing to people.  It's the thing they fear losing the most. 

Some people fear losing their health care more than they fear losing their house.  I wish that weren't the case.  That's also part of Democrat propaganda.  There's no reason to live in abject fear that you don't have health insurance.  There's no reason for that.  But people do. It's been constructed and so it matters.  So Obama comes along and lies, and you don't get to keep your plan, and what you're forced to buy costs three times as much.

So the regime says, "Well, it's only affecting 15% of the people in the country." Those are real people! This is the point: Those are real people, real human beings who are told that the Democrats are the ones that really care about them.  "These conservatives like Limbaugh, they don't care about people! They only care about getting rich. They only care about exploiting people. They only care about hurting Obama.  We have the compassion. We care about people," and it's the exact opposite. 

I'm telling you, from the bottom my heart, we conservatives love everybody, and we want the best for everybody.  We just happen to believe that everybody will do much better for themselves if they invest in themselves rather than making somebody else do it, because we know that nobody's gonna care about you as much as you do. 

It's not possible that Barack Obama cares as much about you as you do.  It isn't possible.  I don't care what you think. Kathleen Sebelius or Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi don't care anywhere near about you as you do.  You're just there to be exploited and used, as far as they're concerned.  So now millions of Americans don't have health insurance.  They either can't sign up or they can't afford it.  And the White House reaction, "Well, it's a small percentage."  It's real people, and it isn't a small percentage.  It is not a small percentage. 

But the point is, it's real people.  It's not statistics.  It's not a percentage.  They don't care, folks.  This is all minutia to them.  All that matters to them is that they ultimately gain total control over the health care system because that gives them total control over the way you live, because the way you live has cost components when you get sick.  And when they're in charge of whether or not you get treated, that means they can determine how you must live in order to qualify for being treated later on. 

They can dictate to you what you will and will not eat and where you will not go and how you will not get there, and hold that threat of not giving you health care over your head all the time.  That's who these people are.  That's who Barack Obama is, lying in most extreme way, to get this silly disaster of a law signed into law.  Telling you the biggest lie he could concoct. 

Now, here's one little piece of logic I'm gonna leave you with before we go to the break.  If keeping your plan was so important -- and it was to people, right? -- if keeping your doctor was so important, why did we have to go change all of this anyway?  If people like their plans and like their doctors, then why did we have to totally turn everything upside down?  Couldn't we conclude that it may not have been broken?  If the number one selling point to reform was you get to keep what you've got, that translates to people being satisfied with what they've got, to me. 

So what did Obama do?  He had to lie to people, because most people were satisfied with what they had.  So he had to tell 'em that they could keep it and that it was gonna get cheaper, because they didn't want massive reform.  But he didn't care.  He was gonna get it anyway.  So you had something that you liked, your doctor, your plan, and he had to tell you he was gonna make it cheaper.  And it turns out now you can't even keep it.  You can't keep your plan, you can't keep your doctor, the plan doesn't exist anymore, your doctor may opt out, and if you are able to stay in the system, it's gonna cost you three times what you were paying.  All of that is a reality borne of lies told by the president of the United States.
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RUSH:  Patty in Chicago, great to have you on the EIB Network.  Hello.

CALLER:  Rush, hello.  Rush, I wanted to say that Obamacare has dangerously comprised the middle class's accessibility to health care with these high deductibles and these high out-of-pocket costs, because we now have to really think twice and three times and four times before we approach a doctor in an emergency room hospital.

RUSH:  That's right.  Because what if you encounter a doctor who's not on the network, as it's called?

CALLER:  Exactly.

RUSH:  You are screwed. You may as well not have insurance.

CALLER:  Exactly.

RUSH:  You have a surgical team of six people working on you, if just one of them is not in the network, you're done.

CALLER:  I'll use myself as an example.  I only have a $6,000 deductible and a $4,000 out of pocket.

RUSH:  No, no, no, no.  The president said that wasn't gonna happen.  You must be wrong.

CALLER:  Oh, yes.  Oh, yes.  But on the other hand, I live in Chicago, Illinois.  Illinois has expanded Medicaid.  So all these people have untethered access to health care.  They can run there with a hangnail.  I, on the other hand, if I cut my leg, I'm gonna sit there and really judge how bad is it bleeding, will I get a scar.  I mean, I may get out the sewing kit, because I'm gonna be facing that $6,000 deductible, that $4,000 out of pocket.

RUSH:  Right.

CALLER:  In my mind, the health care system has flipped all the people that get it for free, they have untethered access.  I now, as a middle class person, am at the back of the line. 

RUSH:  Well, you've identified here what is really the objective, and the objective here is the redistribution of wealth or of income.  And the middle class is being lied to and made to believe they are the recipients of the redistribution.

CALLER:  Oh, no, no, no. 

RUSH:  A $6,000 deductible and $4,000 out of pocket, I'm sorry, you don't have insurance.

CALLER:  No.  No.  And, you know, years ago, when I was between jobs, I did have a catastrophic plan.  You know, my catastrophic plan way back when was better than this, and this is considered health care?  This is insane.  It's just insane what they're selling.

RUSH:  Well, it's by design.  All this is by design.  You're eventually gonna be faced with a solution to this, and the solution is gonna be, "You know what, it was a valiant effort, we really tried hard.  The Republicans, though, they kept gumming it up by trying to repeal it." This is what they'll say. "The Republicans made it worse. They tried to defund it. They tried to repeal it. Look, folks, we gave it our best shot, we're just gonna have to now, government's gonna have to -- essentially we're gonna put everybody on Medicaid and it's gonna be free for you." That's the next lie that's coming.  I tell you, I'm frosted like I can't describe. 
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RUSH: Here's Kathy in Melissa, Texas, I'm glad you waited.  Great to have you on the program.  Hi.

CALLER:  Hi, Rush.  It's great to talk to you.  I have a quick question.  I was just wondering, who is gonna pay for all the insurance claims for Obamacare?

RUSH:  Who is going to pay for all of the claims.  Well, here's the model.  This is not going to happen, but this is the model.  What they intended was -- how old are you?  Do you mind my asking?

CALLER:  I'm 46.

RUSH:  Okay, you're outside the target demo for Obamacare.

CALLER:  Yes.

RUSH:  The target demo for Obamacare is roughly 18 to 34.

CALLER:  Hm-hm.

RUSH:  They are hoping that within that demographic you're gonna have young, healthy people who are going to sign up because the law says they must.  Their premiums are going to be full price.  They're gonna be full price, but they, because they are healthy, will not be making many claims.  Therefore, they will end up paying the bill for the poor and the elderly who will be making a bunch of claims.  The theory is that young, healthy people will sign up 'cause they have to, but after they're buying their insurance, they won't use it because they're healthy, whereas the elderly and the sick use it a lot because they're not healthy.  Well, the problem is, that demographic can't find work.  There aren't any jobs anymore.  Ninety million Americans are out of work.  So now, in the absence of that, until Obama gets the government in total control, it will be insurance companies who will be paying the claims.

CALLER:  So if the insurance companies go away, and then it's just Obamacare, who's to say that the government is gonna pay these claims?

RUSH:  Right.  Which means your neighbors, taxpayers, 'cause the government doesn't have any money 'til they take it from somebody.

CALLER:  So in turn we're paying for our own health care and then we're paying for our own claims?

RUSH:  Yeah, and others, because some will be given subsidies. Some who cannot afford what they're going to charge, because they don't have the money, will be given subsidies, and your money will be used for that, too.

CALLER:  Amazing.

RUSH:  You're gonna pay for it.  There's no other way around it.  I mean, you can say the insurance company, but where do they get their money?

CALLER:  Right.  From us.

RUSH:  We're all gonna be paying for this.  It isn't free, it isn't a $2,500 cheaper premium. We're all gonna be paying for it, and it's so unnecessary.  We're taking something that just needed to be tweaked.  I mean, really we're doing this 'cause, what, 15 million, 20 million, whatever it was, didn't have insurance.  Don't get me started on this again.  I just get livid.  The whole premise of this thing was false, phony.  Running around saying it's unfair, it's just not right, the richest country in the world and whatever number they used, it's changed.  Thirty million people don't have health insurance.  That's immoral.  That just not right.

Okay, fine, well, let's come up with a plan that insures them.  "No, we have to reform the whole system."  No, we don't.  "Yes, we do.  Gotta reform the whole system."  And now we're learning apparently everybody liked their plan, they liked their doctor, so much so that Obama had to lie to 'em and tell 'em you get to keep it as part of his reform, which tells me there wasn't this massive unhappiness with health care in America. 

If the president lies, as he has, big time, if the primary -- look at me, folks.  Pay close attention to this.  If the primary sales point, primary selling point to get you to support this was you get to keep your plan and your doctor, what does that say?  It means you were satisfied.  That was the big selling point?  You get to keep your doctor; you get to keep your plan if you like it. 

Well, then what was wrong?  Why the hell do we have to turn everything upside down?  If you get to keep what you liked, what was wrong?  And now you were lied to, you don't get to keep your plan.  You can't.  It's not gonna be offered because the insurance companies now have mandates.  According to Obamacare, they cannot offer you the plan that you had that you liked.  And the same thing with your doctor.  So now we're reforming health care to improve it, make it better for everybody, when instead everybody is livid 'cause they don't get to keep what they want.  If the number one selling point was you like what you have, you can keep it, then what was wrong with it?  I'm about to explode here again, folks. 

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