RUSH: Eric in Columbus, North Carolina. Welcome to program, sir. Hello.
CALLER: Thank you. Thank you. My point is really a distillation of a lot of things I learned from you over 20-plus years of listening, and that is that I think one of the reasons that we are accused of hatred by liberals is because as conservatives, we think and we move from truth to ethics, whereas liberals move from their values to ethics. And just a quick example using the same-sex marriage thing is that, as conservatives, we believe based on truth that marriage should be between a man and a woman. So our ethics reveal that.
RUSH: Well, wait. Wait. You want me be devil's advocate with you or let you go? Why don't you go ahead and finish and I'll come back to it.
CALLER: Okay, sure. So, on the other hand, liberals move from their values to ethics. So they value things like compassion and tolerance and open-mindedness, so they end up --
RUSH: No, they don't. See, they... Well, they think they do, but they don't value any of that. They demand it -- or else. They demand you tolerate them. They demand that you love them. They demand you accept them. They demand all that. They don't have to do any of that for you -- and if you don't love 'em, if you don't accept 'em, then you hate.
RUSH: That's how it works.
CALLER: Yeah. See, I think that's another difference between conservatives and liberals as well, though. What you're saying there is that we strive for consistency, logical and philosophical consistency. That matters to us, whereas for liberals, all that matters is that they're just consistent in their political actions. So it doesn't matter that philosophically they're inconsistent with their value of compassion. All that matters is they're practically consistent with their openness to people they can... They're on the fringe and their hatred towards people that disagree with 'em.
RUSH: Well, I understand what you're saying. For the most part, you're right. But some people might be scratching their heads trying to understand the fine-print difference that you're making here. But your first thing you said, I've forgotten it.
CALLER: They move from values --
RUSH: My bad, my bad. That's why I want to interrupt, because I didn't want to forget what you were saying. But I didn't want you to forget what you were saying, either. I don't think they care about consistency. I don't think that... They live in an alternative universe that's not reality rooted. It's almost as though they know that they're outside norms, and so the effort is to redefine norms. You mention that they do X, which is why they assign hatred to us. They really believe it. It's not just something they're assigning to us, hatred and bigotry. They really believe the motivations and intentions they assign to us. Because in that way, they lift themselves.
RUSH: They are the classic examples of making themselves feel better by diminishing and demonizing everybody else.
CALLER: Right, yes, and I've certainly been a victim of that. I work in higher education so I've certainly been on the receiving end of the accusations as well as being vilified by them. But, you know, one of the things I've seen is where they're gonna begin with this -- whether consistent with it or not -- principle of compassion and end up with a view that agrees with same-sex marriage.
Because I have a different conclusion on same-sex marriage, therefore they're assuming I reason the same way and that I must not start with compassion. But I must start with something else, namely, hatred. So I think that's one of the reasons, at least in my experience with them -- and, again, kind of putting together everything I've learned from -- that they find it so easy and justifiable to accuse us of hatred. Because they begin with compassion and end up with same-sex marriage.
RUSH: Well, you're right. I'll just speak for myself.
RUSH: As far as I'm concerned doing this radio program, there's nothing in it for me to be wrong about anything.
RUSH: There nothing in it for me to lie. I gain nothing. I do not want to build an audience on such values. I don't want to build an audience on lies. I don't want to build an on being wrong. Who wants to be wrong? Every effort we make here is to be right. Now, that alone is threatening.
RUSH: Particularly when we find it.
RUSH: Particularly when we arrive at it. There is no "right," in their world, if it isn't what or who they are. So the quest... They're not interested in being right. They're not. They just assume that they are. That's not something they have to battle. (interruption) Well, Snerdley wants to know if I think that they're going too far, that there's some bad press about the Mozilla thing.
I've thought over the past 25 years they've gone too far a bunch of times, and they haven't ended up actually doing that. There are some leftists who are really uncomfortable with what happened here and how. Andrew Sullivan doesn't want any part of it. There are a number of them that are really bothered, 'cause they realize with the barest change in the wind direction all this could be turned around on them.
You start allowing fascism... You know, someday Republicans are gonna win elections. You start allowing fascism and it can come back on you. A lot of people are realizing, "We don't want to go down this road," but it isn't very many. I'll tell you where I think there is going to be a backlash, and it will be invisible. I think what's gonna happen, what is likely to happen, what might happen -- I don't know, but it's possible.
Some people that hire others -- small business people, other multiple-size corporations, companies -- are gonna say, "Uh, you know what? We don't want a whole lot of gay people. They're just gonna cause trouble, like this. We just can't have it." There's gonna be a silent reaction. "I don't want this kind of trouble. I've got a business to run here. I can't hire people that are gonna turn my business over to a social cause."
Nobody will ever know.
It won't ever be an announced policy.
But there is always a backlash to things unacceptable to a majority of people, even among those who are too intimidated to express said backlash.