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RUSH: Here is Jacqueline in Atlanta. Hi, Jacqueline. Great to have you on the EIB Network.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hi, Rush. It\u2019s an honor to be on your show and have a chance to speak with you.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you very much.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Okay, so my only statement was, and please understand I\u2019m extremely conservative and for small government, okay, but my statement is, when you had made a statement that Democrats were the ones that purchase the votes, I believe that both parties do, not just Democrat. I believe that the Republican Party does also. And I believe that\u2019s something that has been a normal practice in our government for a very long time.<\/p>\n

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RUSH: Well, in point of fact, you are correct as far as it goes in the sense that today the Republican Party does not object or fight any of this. Either directly or indirectly, they don\u2019t argue against it. There\u2019s no push-back. The message of self-reliance, rugged individualism, is not part of the political dialogue anymore, so in that sense you are right. It is by a couple of people. You can name \u2019em on one hand, that are nationally known political people that make the argument. <\/p>\n

But, the fact of the matter is, Jacqueline, even though the Republicans are eager followers now, this all got started with FDR and the New Deal. The Democrat Party are the authors, the architects, the experts, and there is now a reluctance, it\u2019s been going on so long and so many people are so dependent and have so many expectations, and so many people just think that\u2019s the way it is, that any argument against it is characterized as racism, extremism, mean-spiritedness, bigotry, and that silences the Republicans, and they acquiesce. So I can\u2019t deny they go along with it now.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I actually thought it got started back when the Vanderbilts and Rockefellers and JPMorgan and Andrew Carnegie were developing the country at that time, when there were presidential candidates that were coming up against them specifically, so they made the decision that they could create and develop and purchase, buy their own president of the United States.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, now, that\u2019s a whole different discussion. I mean, back in the day, John Pierpont Morgan had more money than the government and would often loan the money to bail the government out.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: But, I mean, as a political identity, Carnegie and Mellon and Rockefeller, there was no tax at all when these people were making their money. They were extremely wealthy. And, of course, they did a lot of charitable things for public relations and PR and so forth. There\u2019s no question. But they didn\u2019t start this idea. They were not out seeking votes for high office, demanding to wield power by promising people benefits and things like FDR did. I mean, that\u2019s a separate — do you think the Carnegies and the Mellons, by choosing candidates to do this, are actually responsible for this?<\/p>\n

CALLER: I feel like that they started and created the thought process behind it, and obviously everything\u2019s gonna develop into what it is today, but, yeah, I believe that they are the ones that created that idea.<\/p>\n

RUSH: But they weren\u2019t buying votes. The Vanderbilts and the Morgans and the Carnegies, they never ran for office.<\/p>\n

CALLER: No, they didn\u2019t do that, but they did buy their presidents, though, which technically the presidents bought their votes. Ones that had the same ideals. <\/p>\n

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RUSH: Well, they used their influence to bribe and blackmail and provide hookers and any number of things for various Democrats, and they entrapped \u2019em and so forth. But these people did not believe in the redistribution of wealth.<\/p>\n

CALLER: No, no. No, no, no. Yeah.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, that\u2019s what I\u2019m talking about.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, yeah. Okay, okay. Well, I must not have heard the whole thing then, but yeah, no, no, no, no. Yeah, no redistribution of wealth. They, obviously like myself — I wish I was like them — but they\u2019re capitalists like I am —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You want to be like the Carnegies, the Mellons, the —<\/p>\n

CALLER: I would like to be able to have that same type of business sense and shrewdness. I\u2019m a bit kind and giving to a fault at times.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Here\u2019s the problem. The Rockefellers, you can\u2019t do that, because they discovered the oil.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Somebody asked John D. Rockefeller, “What\u2019s the secret to getting rich?” He said, “I started digging in the sands of Saudi Arabia, and I found this back stuff.” Oil.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: So that\u2019s been done.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I already have my own company, so, yeah.<\/p>\n

RUSH: But you can\u2019t become a robber baron today because of the tax code. You cannot become as big those people were. The income tax would stop you dead in your tracks, but there\u2019s nothing stopping you from trying to create a great company, standard of living for yourself or what have you. But nobody\u2019s gonna be able to do it on that scale anymore.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, yeah.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, I take that back. That\u2019s not really true. Warren Buffett and Gates, they\u2019re way beyond that league. The Google boys. Well, the Facebook guy, yeah, but they\u2019re not nearly as conspicuous in their consumption as those guys were. I mean, have you ever been to Newport, Rhode Island, and seen the Vanderbilt home they lived in six weeks a year? The Breakers? The Vanderbilts, of course, were the railroad. Don\u2019t mention them to the Chinese, by the way. The Vanderbilts built the railroad. And when it was time to go to Newport for the season, they would load the silverware and everything they had in the New York mansion on a train and load it up for six weeks, and then take it back, wherever they were going. It was incredible. It was all born of the legitimate creation of wealth. These people invented, created, built and manufactured. <\/line><\/p>\n

JPMorgan did it with debt, but it still was a legitimate enterprise. Well, the average person, the income tax would stop you, most people. Nobody is gonna get wealthy like that working for somebody else, is my only point. You\u2019ve gotta start your own business. I mean, Gates and Buffett are not building these giant monolithic mansions in 15 different cities. Well, Larry Ellison, Oracle, is actually buying whole islands. That\u2019s what he\u2019s doing with his money. He\u2019s bought a couple of these mansions on Breakers Row in Newport, for example. Just doesn\u2019t live in \u2019em, just buys them. It\u2019s where he\u2019s parking his money. That\u2019s the computer business, Oracle, that\u2019s business software, Java, any number of other things. <\/p>\n

I\u2019m speaking in a too generalistic sense when I say you can\u2019t do it, because you can, but not as an employee. The income tax is going to stand in your way. My point to you is there\u2019s nothing stopping you. It may be a little harder today because there\u2019s less to be discovered or invented, but maybe not, I mean, even the things that exist, you know, what Jobs did, he didn\u2019t really invent anything. He just massively commercialized and improved it, whatever it was that they decided to touch. I\u2019m glossing over some of this stuff, and it really deserves far more detail than I\u2019m going into here because of the constraints of time. <\/p>\n

My point to you, Jacqueline, is that you can certainly try, and there\u2019s nothing wrong with it. If you want to be a robber baron, if you want to own a political machine like the Democrats — there has never been a Republican political machine, has there? Like Chicago. Have the Republicans ever run anything like they run Illinois and Chicago? They don\u2019t, right? Not that I could think of.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: You know, the Vanderbilts and the Rockefellers and the Morgans and the Mellons and the Carnegies and all, they\u2019re called the “robber barons.” Who did they steal from? Nobody. Who did they steal from? They were called robber barons. Who did they steal from? The government is who steals. They didn\u2019t steal from anybody.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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