{"id":10656,"date":"2013-12-10T18:50:05","date_gmt":"2013-12-10T18:50:05","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2013-12-10T18:50:05","modified_gmt":"2013-12-10T18:50:05","slug":"why_did_mandela_go_to_prison","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2013\/12\/10\/why_did_mandela_go_to_prison\/","title":{"rendered":"Why Did Mandela Go to Prison?"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"Listen<\/a><\/p>\n

RUSH: Mount Airy, North Carolina. George, you\u2019re first. Great to have you.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Rush, it\u2019s an honor to talk to you on the radio today.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I\u2019m calling about, obviously, Nelson Mandela. I\u2019ve been doing a lot of history of South Africa. I travel with people from United States to Robben Island <\/a>on a yearly basis, and we do a lot of history of, you know, Nelson Mandela and so forth.<\/p>\n

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RUSH: You travel to Robben Island on a yearly basis, you said?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes.<\/p>\n

RUSH: With people from America?<\/p>\n

CALLER: From America, yes. I\u2019m a former South African living in the United States.<\/p>\n

RUSH: All right. Okay.<\/p>\n

CALLER: So, anyway, what a lot of people do not know, and when I go to Robben Island and we walk around there and we go to his cell, a lot of people do not know why is it that Nelson Mandela went to jail for 27 years. So, you know, I tell people —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. This is a great point, if you\u2019re gonna say what I think you\u2019re gonna say. Now, this is key, because you\u2019re saying most people don\u2019t know why he was in jail for 27 years. You know what else they don\u2019t know? What he could have done to get out —<\/p>\n

CALLER: Correct.<\/p>\n

RUSH: — during that whole period that he refused to do.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah. That\u2019s why I called. I\u2019ve listened to your radio station for a lot of years, and I\u2019m like, you know, when I go to South Africa, the first thing I know people are gonna say, “But why is it he went to jail?”<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah, okay, so why was it?<\/p>\n

CALLER: So most Americans believe that he went there for his political views.<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, they think he went there because he was black, and because of apartheid.<\/p>\n

<\/a>CALLER: Yes. And apartheid. I grew up in apartheid. I\u2019ve got a lot of black friends living in South Africa, and, you know, people do not really know why he went there. And I tell everybody it\u2019s because he was incarcerated not for his political views but for the involvement of 23 different acts of sabotage, that he wanted to overthrow the government.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Call it terrorism. He was in prison for acts of terrorism —<\/p>\n

CALLER: Correct.<\/p>\n

RUSH: — that he would not renounce.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes. You know, I mean, people just do not understand that he was caught by the police with his fellow conspirators, and they were in possession of 48,000 Soviet-made anti-personnel mines and 210,000 hand grenades. Can you imagine if Martin Luther King would have done something like that? And people do not really understand why it is that he ended up there. <\/p>\n

RUSH: You know, the thing is now, George, given everything happening, people may not want to know it now.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Correct.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I know you\u2019re telling the truth. Did Mandela\u2019s group, were they ever tied to killings?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Correct.<\/p>\n

RUSH: They were?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Winnie Mandela.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, she did the necklacing, yeah. One of the punishments, the ANC, well known, was to put a tire —<\/p>\n

CALLER: They went unpunished. They just threw out the case and Winnie went free. But Nelson Mandela was so embarrassed because of the case in South Africa then that he actually divorced her<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah. No, when I said punishment, I didn\u2019t mean against him. What Winnie Mandela would do, necklacing was a technique of keeping people in line in the ANC. They\u2019d put an empty tire around somebody\u2019s neck, load it with gasoline, and light it.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Correct.<\/p>\n

RUSH: And was it called necklacing.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes.<\/p>\n

<\/a>RUSH: And this was what Mandela\u2019s group did. Winnie was doing this while he was in prison.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes.<\/p>\n

RUSH: But the question, did Mandela, before he went to prison, did he engage, he and his group engage in anything that caused people to die? Or did he just have possession of the Soviet grenades and mines?<\/p>\n

CALLER: No, they were in possession of that. They had planned a lot of things in KwaZulu. I grew up in KwaZulu. There was also another wing of the ANC that actually grew in the Durban area.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I remember all of this now. It\u2019s all coming back, this stuff going on in the 80\u2019s and early 90\u2019s. I remember this like it was yesterday.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Correct.<\/p>\n

RUSH: But here\u2019s the thing. Nelson Mandela was in jail for 27 years, in prison, Robben Island. He could have gotten out. They offered him every year an opportunity to be released, and all he would have had to have done was seriously renounce terrorism.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Correct.<\/p>\n

RUSH: And he wouldn\u2019t do it.<\/p>\n

CALLER: No. And that is why I also called because, you know, I think Mandela was a great political figure in South Africa. Everybody liked him and he was a great speaker, just like President Obama here. He always talked in South Africa about denouncing violence. You know, talk the talk and walk the walk. But this has been my problem with Mandela. How can you be against violence but you yourself were involved with so much hate and violence.<\/p>\n

RUSH: George, here\u2019s the thing. You\u2019ve run up against something that happens worldwide involving leftists and the media, and that is fairy tales are created around them. The primary point with Mandela, 27 years in jail, black, apartheid. Okay, so you build the story he was put in jail because he was black, because of apartheid, because the white leaders were racist. I mean, that\u2019s it. And then anything Mandela does after that premise is established makes him a hero. Even if he renounces violence, or even if he sponsors violence because it would be justified, given those circumstances. But fairy tales are built around leftist heroes. <\/p>\n

The Kennedys. I mean, the fairy tales around leftist heroes in this country, you could write books about. It\u2019s just what the left does. They have to camouflage and mask who they really are and what they really believe, and that\u2019s why what\u2019s happening now is happening. Now, Mandela did have some great human traits. There\u2019s no question that when he got out of this, he was not bitter. He did say some really thoughtful, brilliant, pithy things when he got out. He invited his jailers to his inauguration, for example. The point is now he\u2019s been martyred, and even all of this truthful news may be stuff that people just don\u2019t want to hear. “I\u2019d rather think of Mandela as the way I\u2019m hearing about him in the media. That just confuses me. That makes me think about things I don\u2019t want to think about.” The real question is, when you go to Robben Island on these tourist trips, is there a picture of Obama in the jail cell?<\/a><\/p>\n

CALLER: No, there\u2019s absolutely nothing in there. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, there will be. You just watch, your next trip, there will be a picture of Obama actually being in the cell. That will be the next thing. <\/p>\n

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RUSH: Thanks for that. That\u2019s helpful. If you people only knew the stuff thrown at me literally seconds before the microphone goes live. For example, “Hey, let\u2019s be straight here, South African government of De Klerk and Botha,” which is how the Reverend Jackson pronounces his name. By the way, I have to tell this. I\u2019ve been looking for this guy, and I would love to find the Nightline footage. <\/line><\/p>\n

There was, in the midst of all this, the apartheid movement coming under worldwide scrutiny and the divestment movement… I mean, it was hot and heavy, folks, in the mid- to late eighties. Nightline went over there, Ted Koppel, did a town meeting, and after the town meeting, they interviewed somebody in the government of P. W. Botha, Pieter Botha, who was the prime minister. He was the head honcho of South Africa prior to F. W. De Klerk. <\/p>\n

This spokesman, I have never forgotten this guy. I can see him and hear the way he spoke. Koppel would you ask him a question. “Well, what about the brutality?” and this guy would say (literally, this is how he sounded), “Uh, Mr. Botha is, of course, for total…” He smiled and he had rotten teeth, and was just the weirdest looking guy. “Mr. Botha…” The guy\u2019s name was Pieter Botha. Mr. Botha. It was just one of those things. You know, I study voices and the way people sound and speak, and I\u2019ve never forgotten this.<\/p>\n

I\u2019ve been looking, Google searching trying to find this guy and that footage just to relive it, just to play it for you, \u2019cause I\u2019m not even doing it justice. This guy was in utter denial of what was going on. “Mr. Botha is an angel. Mr. Botha doesn\u2019t know what you\u2019re talking about. Mr. Botha…” and then they\u2019d cut to Reverend Jackson. “Let me tell you, this Botha guy? To hell with this Botha guy, this Botha guy!”<\/p>\n

It was just intense. But the South African government, they were not angelic. I mean, there was a war going on with the ANC. They engaged in their own acts of violence, trying to put down the anti-apartheid movement. I don\u2019t want anybody concluding here just \u2019cause of what the prior caller said about Mandela that there weren\u2019t some justifications in trying to take on this apartheid government.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Look, folks, for what it\u2019s worth, Mandela was convicted of 196 acts of terrorism. He never engaged in things that caused people to lose their life, but he did terrorize, sabotage government institutions, installations — and, if he would have just renounced terrorism in those 27 years, he could have gotten out of prison.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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