{"id":13580,"date":"2013-01-07T17:55:04","date_gmt":"2013-01-07T17:55:04","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2013-01-07T17:55:04","modified_gmt":"2013-01-07T17:55:04","slug":"don_t_pooh_pooh_the_left_s_push_to_normalize_pedophilia","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2013\/01\/07\/don_t_pooh_pooh_the_left_s_push_to_normalize_pedophilia\/","title":{"rendered":"Don\u2019t Pooh-Pooh the Left\u2019s Push to Normalize Pedophilia"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"\/\/videos\/37\/43811\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/listentoit.jpg\" alt=\"Listen to it Button\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>RUSH: We are loaded today, folks. You can\u2019t afford to miss a single syllable today. For example:<\/p>\n<p>There is an effort underway to normalize pedophilia. Yep. And it has two aspects to it. One is that sex with children doesn\u2019t hurt them. Kids like it, and so do adults, and there\u2019s nothing wrong with it. It is something&#8230; I want to take you back. I want you to remember the first time, wherever you were, that you heard about gay marriage, and I want you to try to recall your reaction &#8212; your first gut reaction &#8212; when you heard that some activists or somebody was trying to promote the notion of gay marriage. What was your initial reaction?<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/society\/2013\/jan\/03\/paedophilia-bringing-dark-desires-light\"><img decoding=\"async\" id=\"eZObject_71253\" class=\"aligncenter\" align=\"middle\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/RushPedophileArticleUKGuardian.jpg\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Aw, come on. It\u2019ll never happen. That\u2019s silly. What are you talking about?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>There is a movement on to normalize pedophilia, and I guarantee you your reaction to that is probably much the same as your reaction when you first heard about gay marriage. What has happened to gay marriage? It\u2019s become normal &#8212; and in fact, with certain people in certain demographics it\u2019s the most important issue in terms of who they vote for. So don\u2019t pooh-pooh. There\u2019s a movement to normalize pedophilia. Don\u2019t pooh-pooh it. The people behind it are serious, and you know the left as well as I do. They glom onto something and they don\u2019t let go.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: It\u2019s right there. It\u2019s in the UK Guardian. &#8220;Pedophilia: Bringing Dark Desires to Light &#8212; The Jimmy Savile scandal&#8230;&#8221; He\u2019s a presenter on the BBC. &#8220;The Jimmy Savile scandal,&#8221; it says here, &#8220;caused public revulsion, but experts disagree about what causes pedophilia &#8212; and even how much harm it causes.&#8221; So &#8220;experts disagree about what causes pedophilia,&#8221; and then they do interviews to make the case for pedophilia.<\/p>\n<p>(interruption)<\/p>\n<p>No, it\u2019s not a crime; it\u2019s love!<\/p>\n<p>(interruption)<\/p>\n<p>Yeah, there are statutes on the book.<\/p>\n<p>The statutes are wrong. The statutes are from a bygone era where everybody\u2019s morality was wrong. Look, I\u00c2\u2019m just telling you what it says. They make the case that kids enjoy it, adults enjoy it; what\u2019s wrong with a little love? The same things that were said about gay marriage. Look at the Elmo story, the puppeteer at PBS. Three or four young people, kids, were hit on by that puppeteer. Look how little attention that story got. In fact, that story was laughed off. It wasn\u2019t a big deal at all.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: I\u2019m not engaging in shock value.  I\u2019m not trying to shock you.  I\u2019m just telling you what\u2019s out there on this pedophilia business.  I\u2019ll tell you where I first saw it.  Wesley Smith, who is married to Debra Saunders. She\u2019s a San Francisco Chronicle columnist.  He had a little blog post at the National Review website:  &#8220;Is Pedophilia Just Another &#8216;Sexual Orientation\u2019?&#8221; I said, &#8220;What?&#8221;  So I read it. <\/p>\n<p>It was this piece that alerted me to the column, the piece about this in The Guardian, and that piece suggests that pedophilia may be just another sexual orientation.  It\u2019s not perverted, it\u2019s not wrong, it\u2019s just another sexual orientation.  And, in fact, it\u2019s quite loving and as natural as any other sexual orientation.  This is what those of us with our heads and minds in the Dark Ages have got to modernize and realize. <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.guardian.co.uk\/society\/2013\/jan\/03\/paedophilia-bringing-dark-desires-light\"><img decoding=\"async\" id=\"eZObject_71250\" class=\"aligncenter\" align=\"middle\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/ukguardian.jpg\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The argument being made in the piece is that the desire for sex with children is a natural part of the human condition.  And, in fact, if we acknowledge it, and encourage it, we can actually somehow better protect children.  That\u2019s in the story, too.  It\u2019s the same thinking, if you remember back in the nineties, when we were told that kids are going to have sex, you can\u2019t stop them.  And that\u2019s why we needed to give away condoms in the schools. <\/p>\n<p>Remember we had stories from Long Island about parents who said that they willingly let their daughters\u2019 boyfriends spend the night because it was better if their daughter was gonna have sex in a clean bedroom rather than the backseat of a car.  Well, same thing here.  We can better protect children if we know that they\u2019re having sex with adults rather than it being done on the sly. <\/p>\n<p>If it\u2019s supervised, and if it\u2019s engaged in by loving people, then what\u2019s wrong with it? This is in the article.  I just want to remind you, now, when you first heard about gay marriage &#8212; and I don\u2019t mean to pick on gays. It\u2019s not what I\u2019m saying. It\u2019s just something that was such a tremendous departure from accepted norms of the day. When you first heard about gay marriage, you pooh-poohed it.<\/p>\n<p>When you first heard me say that the Sierra Club was gonna try to come after you and ban your SUV, what was your reaction?  &#8220;Aw, come on, Rush! There you go again: Overreacting, exaggerating.&#8221;  Well, you know that the SUV has become a target. You know all about that.  You know how much progress the notion of gay marriage has made.  So I\u2019m just keeping you here on the cutting edge. <\/p>\n<p>In fact, the article in the Guardian actually quotes some academics. (For those of you in Rio Linda, that\u2019s college professor types.  These are the people you see that have leather arm patches on their sport coats.)  Academics are quoted in the Guardian piece saying that sex with adults does not hurt children.  Normalization.  So Jon Henley decided he\u2019d write a whole piece on this, normalizing pedophilia, where he quotes extensively and looks into it and finds out what this is all about. <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/?page_id=37804\"><img decoding=\"async\" id=\"eZObject_71241\" class=\"aligncenter\" align=\"middle\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/00-24_7Self585.jpg\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Pedophilia: Bringing Dark Desires to Light,&#8221; and it says, among other things (this article is loaded), &#8220;Pedophiles may be wired differently.&#8221;  There\u2019s nothing wrong with them.  They\u2019re just &#8220;wired differently. &#8230; But there is a growing conviction, notably in Canada, that pedophilia should probably be classified as a distinct sexual orientation, like heterosexuality or homosexuality. Two eminent researchers testified to that effect to a Canadian parliamentary commission last year, and the Harvard Mental Health Letter of July 2010 stated baldly that pedophilia &#8216;is a sexual orientation\u2019 and therefore &#8216;unlikely to change.'&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Can you imagine if Jerry Sandusky had had this information at his trial?  What do you think the reaction would be to Jerry Sandusky\u2019s defense saying, &#8220;Hey, look, it\u2019s normal. The kids love it, he loved it, nobody was hurt. And in fact, it\u2019s just a different sexual orientation&#8221;?  Now, what do you think\u2019s behind this? What kind of people do you think are behind this, this effort to normalize pedophilia? Which is what?  The abuse of kids, is it not?  Who\u2019s behind that? <\/p>\n<p>What is their objective? They want us to all think that pedophilia is just another sexual orientation.  You know who\u2019s gonna fall right in line is college kids, just like they have on gay marriage, just like they do on all other revolutionary social issues.  Their own definition of the cutting edge, civil rights, freedom, understanding, tolerance. So I\u2019m just warning you here. You think it can\u2019t happen. &#8220;Impossible!  Don\u2019t be nutso and wacko on us, Rush.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m just asking you to remember all of the things that occur normally in our culture now that when you first heard about them you thought, &#8220;No way! That\u2019ll never happen; that\u2019ll never be mainstream,&#8221; and now they are.  Here is another one to add to the list. (interruption) You want more excerpts from this piece?  &#8220;In 1976 the National Council for Civil Liberties, the respectable (and responsible) pressure group now known as Liberty, made a submission to parliament\u2019s criminal law revision committee.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It caused barely a ripple. &#8216;Childhood sexual experiences, willingly engaged in with an adult,\u2019 it read, &#8216;result in no identifiable damage &#8230; The real need is a change in the attitude which assumes that all cases of pedophilia result in lasting damage.'&#8221; So you see it\u2019s you who have to reorient your thinking. It\u2019s you who have to get rid of your bigotry. It\u2019s you that have to open up and become more tolerant.  It is you judgmental people who think this is child abuse when it isn\u2019t. <\/p>\n<p>You are the ones who are going to have to change.  The pedophiles and the children involved, they\u2019re normal, just like you or anybody else.  It is your old-fashioned conventions that create the problem.  So another excerpt.  &#8220;It is difficult today, after the public firestorm unleashed by revelations about Jimmy Savile [the presenter at BBC] and the host of child abuse allegations they have triggered, to imagine any mainstream group making anything like such a claim.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;But if it is shocking to realize how dramatically attitudes to pedophilia have changed in just three decades, it is even more surprising to discover how little agreement there is even now among those who are considered experts on the subject.&#8221; Here is the money quote: &#8220;For Goode, though, broader, societal change is needed. &#8216;Adult sexual attraction to children is part of the continuum of human sexuality; it\u2019s not something we can eliminate,\u2019 she says.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;&#8216;If we can talk about this rationally &#8212; acknowledge that, yes, men do get sexually attracted to children, but no, they don\u2019t have to act on it &#8212; we can maybe avoid the hysteria. We won\u2019t label pedophiles monsters; it won\u2019t be taboo to see and name what is happening in front of us.'&#8221; See? The only people who have to change are you who have these old-fashioned, Victorian-type attitudes.  You\u2019re gonna have to open yourselves up to love and realize that wherever it happens, it\u2019s wonderful.  No matter what.  <\/p>\n<p>Now, there were people &#8212; I just want to remind you &#8212; back during the early days of the effort to redefine what a family is, and in the early days of the gay marriage activists. There were people who said, &#8220;Well, if this becomes mainstream, then someday marrying your dog is gonna be okay, and then having two husbands and two wives in one family is gonna be okay, \u2019cause who can say it isn\u2019t?&#8221;  There were others who predicted that pedophilia would be mainstream, and there was an outcry of opposition to this.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH:  By the way, the expert that I was quoting extensively from in the pedophilia story in the UK Guardian is Sarah Goode.  She is a senior lecturer at the University of Winchester and is the author of two, count them, two major sociological studies on pedophilia in society in 2009, 2011.  Hey, folks, look, I know it\u2019s uncomfortable.  I\u2019m just warning you, there\u2019s now an effort on to normalize it.  It\u2019s safe for children.  Controlled supervised, engaged in two loving people, it\u2019s actually safer for children this way. <\/p>\n<p>I mean, it\u2019s the same rationale back in the nineties for giving away condoms. We can\u2019t stop it. Kids are going to have sex, so we want to make it as safe as we can.  It\u2019s the same technique being used here. <\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Now to the phones and Walter in Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida.  I\u2019m glad you waited, sir.  Welcome to the EIB Network.  Hello.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER:  Hi, Rush.  I was really incensed earlier when you were talking about the business of pedophilia being entertained in England and possibly among the leftists in this society as giving it some kind of credibility.  And every single civilization that I\u2019ve ever studied about and every religion in this country teaches us over and over again about the destruction of civilization because of it. I mean, Greek history is one of the most egregious people who adapted as part of their culture the culture of the warrior and pedophilia.  And it just absolutely amazed me that we live in this age where people have forgotten what happened with Sodom and Gomorrah, what Christ taught in his most profound thing, in anger, was about the hurting of little children. That he would put a millstone around them and cast them into the sea.  And it\u2019s amazing that people have forgotten these warnings over 4,000 years and are willing to entertain this over and over again.  I remember at BU, Boston University, where I studied, a [professor] told us that in the mid-sixties, that psychological association of the United States went from one person held off these aberrations and said that they were, you know, they were mental problems that needed to be directly dealt with from, you know, a clinical point of view, and when that person died, the American Psychological Association then began the slippery slope of allowing all these aberrations to &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>RUSH:  Let me ask you a question.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER:  Yes, sir.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH:  You say you\u2019ve been studying this.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER:  Yes, sir.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH:  Before I mentioned this today, were you aware of the UK Guardian story?  Were you aware of the effort that is quite a ways along now to normalize pedophilia?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER:  I didn\u2019t know that.  I thought that they had &#8212;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" id=\"eZObject_71266\" class=\"alignright\" align=\"right\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/Rush-Obama-Stamp.jpg\"\/><BR\/>RUSH:  This is the point.  You didn\u2019t know it, I didn\u2019t know it \u2019til I ran across the story, you didn\u2019t know it, and most other people don\u2019t know it, either, and this is why it succeeds.  Most people don\u2019t have time for stuff like this.  Most people aren\u2019t reading the UK Guardian; they\u2019re trying to get jobs.  Or, as in the case of some, I got a New York Post story here:  &#8220;Welfare Recipients Take Out Cash At Strip Clubs, Liquor Stores And X-Rated Shops.&#8221;  Welfare recipients are using the debit cards at these kinds of places, whatever, they\u2019re not paying any attention to pedophilia.  So this stuff happens literally under the radar. <\/line><\/p>\n<p>Now, if you\u2019re just joining us, the UK Guardian has a story today that essentially quotes a bunch of college academics who\u2019ve studied it and said there\u2019s really nothing wrong with pedophilia.  It\u2019s just another sexual orientation.  In fact, it may be safer for children when it\u2019s engaged in knowingly and accepted.  Children love it, the adults love it, and if there\u2019s love involved, what can be wrong?  I\u2019m not making this up.  We\u2019ll link to the story at RushLimbaugh.com.  You can read it yourself.  I was made aware of it by a contributor at <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.nationalreview.com\/human-exceptionalism\/337010\/normalizing-pedophilia\">National Review, Wesley J. Smith<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>Like I mentioned, try to imagine where you were the very first time you heard somebody seriously make the case for gay marriage and ask yourself what was your reaction.  It was probably something like, &#8220;Right, that will never happen,&#8221; and now here we are.  Gay marriage and gay rights happen to be at the top of important issues for young voters ages 18 to 29.  It is the number one most important issue to them, civil rights, freedom, tolerance, liberty, all that cool stuff when you\u2019re that young.  Well, here we go with the same technique.  It\u2019s safer.  It\u2019s safer for children under these circumstances than if it\u2019s happening under the cover of darkness and behind the law.  If it\u2019s happening under the shroud of illegality, then it has a stigma; but it really shouldn\u2019t, it\u2019s just another sexual orientation.  It\u2019s a serious piece, a serious effort.  And it\u2019s all about these people wishing to have their preferences and desires judged to be normal, not weird or perverted or what have you. <\/p>\n<p>And even if you had heard about it, what are you gonna do?  What are you gonna do about it?  You might organize opposition to it. You might organize in California, a proposition, you put it on the ballot to oppose it and you win, and a federal judge will overturn it.  Yeah, pedophilia, it\u2019s already against the law.  What do you do to stop it?  Who\u2019s gonna stop it?  Do you think today\u2019s Democrat Party\u2019s gonna speak out against it?  No.  You won\u2019t have \u2019em advocating it, not yet, but that day\u2019s coming, if it follows the same progression as some of these other things you thought would never, ever happen and they are happening now in a mainstream way. <\/p>\n<p>So that is what Walter here is reacting to, and he said that pedophilia, societies can\u2019t survive when stuff like this becomes normal.  But you\u2019ve got some official psychiatric groups that are endorsing it as normal.  And the only thing wrong with pedophilia is the bigoted attitude towards it, is the point of the story in the UK Guardian, which is left wing, but it\u2019s not a fringe publication, it\u2019s a mainstream publication in Great Britain.  <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>RUSH: We are loaded today, folks. You can\u2019t afford to miss a single syllable today. For example: There is an effort underway to normalize pedophilia. Yep. And it has two aspects to it. One is that sex with children doesn\u2019t hurt them. Kids like it, and so do adults, and there\u2019s nothing wrong with it. 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