{"id":13736,"date":"2012-12-11T18:11:54","date_gmt":"2012-12-11T18:11:54","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2012-12-11T18:11:54","modified_gmt":"2012-12-11T18:11:54","slug":"conservatives_didn_t_lose_the_argument_republicans_never_argued_for_conservatism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2012\/12\/11\/conservatives_didn_t_lose_the_argument_republicans_never_argued_for_conservatism\/","title":{"rendered":"Conservatives Didn\u2019t Lose the Argument, Republicans Never Argued for Conservatism"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"\/\/videos\/37\/43150\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/listentoit.jpg\" alt=\"Listen to it Button\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Now, ladies and gentlemen, I am not trying to depress you.  I am simply addressing circumstances as they exist.  This stuff can be beaten back.  It is being beaten back in the states.  Look at Wisconsin.  <a target=\"_blank\" view=\"line\" href=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/?p=13747\">Now look at Michigan. <\/a> Right-to-work laws.  The unions are on the ropes, and in Michigan it\u2019s gonna play out just like it did in Wisconsin.  The unions are organizing.  They\u2019re rabble-rousing.  They\u2019re threatening. They\u2019re doing everything they can to upset the applecart, threatening violence just like happened in Wisconsin.  The teachers are taking the day off to join the picket line, but the states is where liberalism is being defeated.  The states, some of them, is where capitalism is showing the benefits, such as the Dakotas and oil. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" align=\"middle\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/RushReestablishConserve585.jpg\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Now, Obama may be a cult figure, I don\u2019t know.  It may be that without Obama the left wouldn\u2019t be winning.  Without the first black president, that aspect of the presidency, all this may not be happening.  Your average, ordinary Democrat candidate, none of this may have happened.  We don\u2019t know that.  I don\u2019t care at the moment.  The fact is it is happening and the solution to it is beating liberalism, not just Democrats, although they\u2019re one and the same.  That\u2019s the solution to this.  It\u2019s a monumental task, but it\u2019s certainly gonna be easier to do that than to take 50 years and fix the education system, which we\u2019ve gotta get started on anyway as well.  But the evidence that this doesn\u2019t work is all around us. <\/p>\n<p>Now, many of us thought that four years of it would have been enough to convince people they didn\u2019t want any more of it.  That didn\u2019t happen.  But there are probably reasons for that, too.  I mentioned my buddy Pete Wehner and his piece at Commentary Magazine.  Pete is one of my favorite contributors at Commentary, and he has a piece: &#8220;What If Conservatives Have Lost the Argument?&#8221; Now, I\u2019m not that defeatist. I\u2019m not gonna share with you Pete\u2019s whole piece.  You can read it if you want.  He starts out talking about the debate over the fiscal cliff, how important it is and does it mean that we\u2019ve lost the argument. <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" view=\"line\" href=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/?p=13739\">Do people really believe that raising taxes on the rich is the way to go? <\/a> Do people really believe that tax cuts for the rich caused all this?  Let me tell you something.  It\u2019s about time people started asking this question.  But let me tell you what I think the real question is.  It\u2019s not &#8220;what if&#8221; conservatives have lost the argument.  The question is, when did conservatives make the argument?  No, I don\u2019t mean me.  We make the argument and answer the questions every day here.  But I\u2019m not a political party, and I\u2019m not seeking office.  The recent presidential campaign, when was the conservative argument made?  Pete\u2019s column asks several questions.  He doesn\u2019t offer any answers.  The fiscal cliff debate has him puzzled, and this is evidence of the difficult position Republicans in Congress find themselves. <\/p>\n<p>So his question is, what if conservatives have lost the argument?  My question is, what did they do to make the argument?  When did they make the argument?  When did we offer a plan to buy the taxpayer vote?  That\u2019s what Obama did.  Obama is offering to buy the non-taxpayer vote.  When have we made a pitch to them?  Seriously.  We just assumed that everybody wouldn\u2019t want any more of this wretched economy and would throw the incumbents out.  We just assumed that a competent manager would be infinitely preferred to this disaster.  It wasn\u2019t the case.  Conservatism didn\u2019t make the argument, and, in fact, <a target=\"_blank\" view=\"line\" href=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/?p=13799\">conservatism needs to first start in correcting <\/a>all of the misconceptions about it out there everywhere. <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" align=\"middle\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/ObamaLyingtoAmerica2.jpg\"\/><\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s a good illustration of what\u2019s going on in Michigan.  Bob Beckel on The Five yesterday talking about the Michigan right-to-work flap.  He said (imitating Beckel), &#8220;These nonunion scabs, we can\u2019t have that. We can\u2019t have people joining the union without paying the dues.  That means they\u2019re getting the benefit without paying the dues.&#8221;  Hey, Bob, you know what that\u2019s like?  That\u2019s like the 47% who don\u2019t pay income taxes but get the benefits.  What\u2019s the difference, Bob?  On the one hand, we\u2019re supposedly out of bounds in talking about that, but you are totally permitted to raise this question about people in union jobs that don\u2019t pay dues? <\/p>\n<p>What about the 47% that aren\u2019t paying any income taxes that are getting benefit after benefit after benefit?  Their votes are being bought countless times every election, Bob.  Nobody has any problem with that, on your side.  When did conservatives aggressively argue that tax cuts increase revenue?  You know, Obama\u2019s out there arguing that tax cuts caused the depression, tax cuts caused the recession, tax cuts cost you your job.  We didn\u2019t defend tax cuts.  We didn\u2019t defend \u2019em at all.  We can\u2019t say that the whole premise of tax cuts lost.  It wasn\u2019t on the table.  Even Romney made it clear that he wasn\u2019t gonna cut the taxes of the highest earners. <\/p>\n<p>The Republicans have been giving away their identity year after year after year.  <a target=\"_blank\" view=\"line\" href=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/?p=13752\">The old analogy I gave you yesterday <\/a>about old Coke and Coke Classic and New Coke.  Coke figured out their mistake and went back to the classic.  We haven\u2019t gone back to classic.  We continue to try be more like these guys.  When was the last time the nominee of the party forcefully made the case for lower tax rates?  When is the last time the nominee of the party or the party chairman or any high profile elected Republican made the case for lower tax rates, increasing jobs, and increasing revenue and helping to reduce the debt? <\/p>\n<p>You gotta buy the votes of taxpayers the same way Obama buys the votes of nontaxpayers.  Obama gets it.  It works, and it worked for Reagan.  He never shied away from the argument and he didn\u2019t lose it.  Why not brag about how much money taxpayers will save?  Why not brag about the great things about our philosophy, economically, morally, you name it, why not brag about it?  We don\u2019t have anybody that\u2019s willing to do that.  They all act ashamed of it or defensive.  Look at Obama\u2019s pitch in 2008.  Ninety-five percent of Americans will get tax cuts, he proudly said it, if elected.<\/p>\n<p>Can you believe that a guy like Obama was allowed to win the tax cut argument in an election?  A neoclassic socialist wins the argument on tax cuts because our side\u2019s afraid to make the argument?  It\u2019s what happened.  That was part of Obama\u2019s pitch in 2008.  Ninety-five percent of Americans will get tax cuts.  The other half of it was, the rest of you are gonna get soaked.  The rest of you are gonna pay through the nose because you\u2019ve had an unfair benefit the whole time since this country was founded and it\u2019s time America got paid back.  And part of my recipe for payback is your taxes are going up and these poor victims, 95% of this country\u2019s a bunch of victims, taken advantage of, their resources stolen by you, the rich.  Not only am I gonna take what you\u2019ve got, I\u2019m gonna lower of their taxes. <\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/?page_id=37804\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" align=\"middle\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/00-24-7-holiday.jpg\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s an instant sell, folks.  That is an instant benefit.  And Obama\u2019s following through now.  He\u2019s doing everything he can to make the Republican Party concede, confess that tax cuts for the rich caused all of these problems.  Obama\u2019s tax plan is a joke.  The people bought it.  I don\u2019t accept for a moment that conservatives have lost the argument.  I don\u2019t think the argument has been made.  Not by the party.  Yes, I make it every day here and some people on Fox and other talk show hosts and the blogs, yes.  But none of us get votes.  Nobody\u2019s voting for or against us.  We\u2019re not in that game.  And how do we tell people to go vote for candidate X when candidate X refuses to sound like we do?  When candidate X is relying on us to make the case for him so he doesn\u2019t have to so he can then benefit because somebody else is saying it.  He\u2019s gonna have to say it. She\u2019s gonna have to say it. Whoever the candidate is is gonna have to make the case.  And they haven\u2019t been. <\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s why I don\u2019t think conservatism\u2019s losing.  The only way you can say conservatism\u2019s losing is in the sense the <a target=\"_blank\" view=\"line\" href=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/?p=13752\">Republican Party is afraid to use it.  <\/a>There\u2019s some conservatives in the party, but I\u2019m talking about party identification.  This party\u2019s doing everything it can to make itself look like it\u2019s squishy, moderate, center, uncontroversial, not gonna rock the boat, in favor of whatever you want, whenever you want it, except we can\u2019t outdo the Democrats on any of that.  So we\u2019re always gonna be lite, l-i-t-e, whatever, tax-lite, welfare-lite. We\u2019re always gonna be the pretenders, \u2019cause that\u2019s not who the Republican Party really is.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>RUSH: Now, ladies and gentlemen, I am not trying to depress you. I am simply addressing circumstances as they exist. This stuff can be beaten back. It is being beaten back in the states. 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