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RUSH: Now, Obama. Let\u2019s go to top of the audio sound bites. Remember yesterday, a long dissertation in the first hour about what really is going on with the fiscal cliff<\/a>, and that the real target here is the Republicans, particularly the Republicans in the House, but the Republican Party writ large, Obama is simply trying to decimate it. He is desperate to get Boehner to sign off on raising taxes on the rich. That\u2019s ball game for Obama. If he can get that, he gets a confession. What Obama wants is a confession, an admission from the Republicans that as it was tax cuts that led to all the problems that we\u2019re having. That\u2019s what he wants. <\/p>\n

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From now \u2019til the end of time he wants that to be economic and political science history that is taught to every young skull full of mush. The Reagan tax cuts, the Bush tax cuts in 2001, 2003, that\u2019s why you don\u2019t have a house; that\u2019s why you don\u2019t have a job; that\u2019s why your savings are depleted; that\u2019s why we\u2019re in an economic mess, is because the rich haven\u2019t been paying everything they should. It had nothing to do with spending. It has nothing to do with entitlements. It has nothing to do about anything government\u2019s doing. It\u2019s the rich have been given an unfair shake by virtue of being allowed to keep much more than they need, much more than they want, much more than they deserve. And so that is the focus. <\/p>\n

And here is Obama yesterday in Falls Church, Virginia. He\u2019s still campaigning. He was at the home of a middle class family who responded to his call for #My2k stories about how the end of the Bush tax cuts would affect them. And here\u2019s a portion of what he said.<\/p>\n

OBAMA: Everybody\u2019s gonna have to share in some sacrifice, but it starts with folks who are in the best position to sacrifice, who are in the best position to do a little bit more, to step up, and that\u2019s what my plan does. So, just to be clear, I\u2019m not gonna sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for folks at the top 2%.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, again, Boehner has offered $800 billion from these people. That was Obama\u2019s original ask, was $800 billion, before the election. When he won, he doubled down, made it $1.6 trillion, and Boehner, earlier this week, conceded, “Okay, we\u2019ll put some revenue on the table, $800 billion, and we\u2019ll get it by limiting loopholes.” By the way, that\u2019s not good. I mean, there are legitimate, lawful deductions that have been written into the tax code for the express purpose of promoting economic activity. And they are under assault. Every legitimate tax deduction is now called a loophole. <\/p>\n

When low-information voters hear “loophole,” they think somebody is getting away with not paying taxes. A loophole is a special carve-out for privileged people, usually white, so that they don\u2019t have to pay what everybody else has to pay. And they got that special deal because other powerful people are taking care of them. So Obama\u2019s coming along and he\u2019s gonna end that. Not gonna have special deals for these filthy rich people anymore. Gonna get rid of loopholes. And Boehner said, “Okay, we can generate $800 billion by eliminating loopholes,” adopting Obama\u2019s language, “and deductions and exemptions.”<\/p>\n

Obama, “Nope, nope, sorry, doesn\u2019t work, math doesn\u2019t work.” <\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

Wait a minute, a year ago you said you could get over a trillion dollars doing it. <\/p>\n

“Well, the math doesn\u2019t work anymore.” <\/p>\n

What this means is, again, I say in a non-threatening way, is that the —<\/p>\n

(interruption)<\/p>\n

Well, no, a friend of mine told me her daughter can\u2019t listen to me anymore \u2019cause I sound too threatening. She\u2019s 24 and I make her nervous. So I\u2019m just trying to tell people, I\u2019m not threatening anybody. Anyway, Obama says, “No, no, nope, nope, nope, gotta have the rates go up.” So what he\u2019s saying is he doesn\u2019t care about the money, Boehner just said I\u2019ll give you $800 billion, I\u2019ll eliminate deductions, loopholes. “Nope. I want those rates up.” It isn\u2019t about the money, folks. Whatever you think, as far as Obama\u2019s concerned, isn\u2019t about the money. If the Republicans cave on raising rates on the rich, then they are admitting that that\u2019s the problem, as far as every other voter outside the 2% in this country is concerned.<\/p>\n

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RUSH: Here is Chris Wallace of Fox News Sunday. He was on Fox this morning with Martha MacCallum, who said to him, for all intents and purposes, John Boehner continues to say that he will not raise taxes on the top 2%. He wants the revenue to come in the form of changing deductions and loopholes. The president says exactly the opposite. So one side is gonna have to give. Any bet which side it\u2019s likely to be?<\/p>\n

WALLACE: It\u00c2\u2019s unsustainable for Boehner and the Republicans to be in a position where they are blocking a tax cut for 98% of Americans because they want it protect tax rates of the top 2%. That may be right or wrong on its merits but politically it…<\/p>\n

MACCALLUM: Yeah.<\/p>\n

WALLACE: …seems pretty clear. And you see more and more conservatives and Republican office holders who are caving on that. In return Boehner is going to demand something in return. That has got to be serious spending cuts and serious entitlement reform.<\/p>\n

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RUSH: He\u2019s not gonna get any of that. What she said, one side\u2019s gonna have to give. There\u2019s no giving or caving. There\u2019s ceding. But here\u2019s the thing. Did you hear Chris Wallace say — and this is, by the way, politically this is correct, but it\u2019s not correct in reality, that the Republicans are blocking a tax cut for 98% of the American people. There is no tax cut that\u2019s on the table, ladies and gentlemen. There is not a tax cut. What we face is the expiration of the current tax rates on December 31st. If they go up, then it\u2019s a tax increase on everybody. That increase, in Washington-speak, has now become a tax cut if nothing changes it. It\u2019s absurd. There is no tax cut anywhere yet.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay, I got a little bit more time to spend on this, the Chris Wallace comment. I mean, everybody in Washington is talking this way, media, Republicans, Democrats. There is no tax cut on the table, and another thing to keep in mind is that only 50% of the people are paying income taxes. Not 98% of the people. You talk about the top 2%, and then everybody else supposedly getting a tax cut. Fifty percent of this country don\u2019t pay income tax. It\u2019s maybe 48 and a percentage point or something, but we\u2019ll round it up. Half the country doesn\u2019t pay income taxes. But I want to talk about this notion that there\u2019s a tax cut out there that the Republicans are opposing. There isn\u2019t, folks. <\/p>\n

Here\u2019s where we are: 2001, 2003, George W. Bush succeeded in lowering marginal rates for everybody, not just the rich, and the top marginal rate right now is 35.9%. He made a deal, the Republicans made a deal — Boehner, Obama — to raise the debt limit some time ago and as part of that deal they\u2019re gonna have to do it again at the end of the year and they put in what they thought were very punitive results if they didn\u2019t get a deal. The very punitive results are that the Bush tax rates end and that defense spending is cut dramatically. And those two items were included because it was said that neither party would allow either one to happen and so we\u2019re guaranteed to get an agreement down the road. <\/p>\n

We\u2019re down the road, and we\u2019re nowhere near an agreement because Obama, A, the idea that Republicans can hold out for spending cuts, there aren\u2019t any spending cuts. Obama is proposing spending increases, folks. He wants a new stimulus. He is demanding a stimulus, and he\u2019s demanding more government spending, all of which dwarfs even his pretend spending cuts, and even his pretend spending cuts are ten to 20 years down the road. But why are these people so wrong? Why are they discussing a tax cut that doesn\u2019t exist? Because it gives Obama a political advantage. <\/p>\n

Remember, we\u2019re dealing with low-information voters. And there are a lot of low-information voters. I mean, there are a lot of people who think they\u2019re informed who don\u2019t understand this. There are no tax cuts. Not one tax cut has been proposed here. “But, Rush, but, Rush, why did they keep talking –” because, it hurts the Republicans. It is said the Republicans are in a bind here because they are opposing a tax cut for the middle class, to defend a tax cut for the rich. That\u2019s not what\u2019s going on. The Republicans are holding out for no tax increase on everybody who pays income taxes. <\/p>\n

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That is the Republican position. They do their best to articulate it. Somehow it doesn\u2019t penetrate through the noise. The way that they arrive by playing with the language and calling this a tax cut is this. On December 31st the current income rates, income tax rates, expire, and they go up to what they were when Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky were in the Oval Office. For the top rate, that would be 39.6%, almost 40, as opposed to the 35.9 that it is now. And everybody else that pays taxes, income tax, their rates would go up as well. <\/p>\n

So what\u2019s on the table, the Republicans are trying — in fact, they\u2019ve already agreed to $800 billion in tax increases by eliminating loopholes. It\u2019s a mistake to even have done that. Loopholes are itemized deductions that are legal and lawful, put in the tax code by Congress, not a bunch of rich lobbyists and lawbreakers and so forth sitting around deciding to corrupt it. They are there as a matter of law. The mortgage interest deduction is now a loophole, for example. So every one of you ducting your mortgage interest in the current parlance, you are exercising a loophole. You are a tax cheat. That\u2019s what the word loophole has come to mean, somebody cheating. Getting away with not paying their fair share. <\/p>\n

So Obama demanding, at first, $800 billion to a trillion dollars procured this way. Boehner said, “Okay, here it is.” Then Obama, “You know what, I have to change my mind, math doesn\u2019t work, you\u2019re gonna raise the rates.” So when the discussion of raising the rates happens, you get the opportunity to talk about a tax cut. What they want you to believe — and this is how stupid Washington believes you to be — they want you to believe that you are getting a tax cut if your tax rate doesn\u2019t change. The same bunch of people who call a 5% increase in spending a cut because the baseline says it should go up 8%, that is called a cut in Washington. <\/p>\n

When the expectation that a line item will be increased by 8%, and it\u2019s only increased by five, then Democrats running around talk about Draconian 3% cut in spending, when there hasn\u2019t been a cut. There\u2019s gonna be a five percent increase. Well, by the same token, the same people insulting your intelligence are telling you that you will receive a tax cut if your tax rates stay the same. “Mr. Limbaugh, that absolutely makes no sense whatsoever.” I know, to guys like you, Mr. New Castrati, let me try to explain it to you the way they think. <\/p>\n

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On December 31st, if the Republicans don\u2019t just give up, everybody\u2019s tax rates are going up. People that pay income taxes, about half the country, their tax rates are going up. Tax increase. Okay? Hasn\u2019t happened yet. It\u2019s on the books. Now, if there\u2019s a deal and tax rates stay the same, then it\u2019s magic, they\u2019ve just cut on your taxes, except they haven\u2019t. Your taxes aren\u2019t gonna change if there\u2019s a deal. The rates aren\u2019t going to change. You\u2019re not gonna get a tax cut. The only way you get a tax cut is assuming the rate goes up, and then our wizards of smart and our wonderful guardians and protectors at the last moment will rush in and prevent that increase from taking place and say that they cut our taxes, when all they did was leave them the same. <\/p>\n

So there is no tax cut. The Republicans have not proposed a tax cut for the rich. What the Republicans are trying to do, God bless them in their inability to explain it, what the Republicans are trying to do is maintain current marginal tax rates so that there will not be further punitive tax rate changes on people who earn a living, be they small business owners, be they employees, be they moderately successful, widely successful, nothing-special successful. They don\u2019t want tax rates to go up on anybody. This is being called holding out for tax cuts for the rich. But, again, and it\u2019s perverting the language to even try to make sense of this, the only way anybody could ever say that there\u2019s a tax cut is if these rates go up. <\/p>\n

Now, let\u2019s go to January 1st and let\u2019s say there isn\u2019t a deal and January 1st the rates go up. What “Barack Hussein Obama! Mmm! Mmm! Mmm!” wants to do is immediately propose a tax cut for 98% of the American people. People, low-information voters especially, have no clue what\u2019s going on, are being lied to about what\u2019s going on, have a total misconception about what\u2019s going on. When they see their first paycheck, they\u2019re gonna see a smaller take-home pay. They\u2019re gonna be mad, outraged. The media and Obama waiting, strategic moment, “It\u2019s the Republicans\u2019 fault. They had a chance to stop this. But they were protecting the rich. They didn\u2019t want the rich paychecks to get smaller, and so everybody\u2019s are.” <\/p>\n

But don\u2019t worry, Obama says, I\u2019m here, I\u2019m proposing a tax cut to do away with this tax increase. I\u2019m proposing a tax cut at this moment that\u2019ll roll back your tax rates to what they were on December 31st, and the country\u2019s supposed to go, “Yay, Obama is saving us!” Sorry if this makes you nervous. Sorry if this sounds threatening. I\u2019m just trying to be explanatory. So if this plays out exactly as I\u2019ve said, what\u2019s gonna happen is nothing. Nothing will effectively change, but you will be made to believe the Republicans allowed your taxes to go up and Obama came along and cut them. And at the end of that, if that\u2019s what happens, your tax rate will be no different then than it is today, but you will be told you just got a tax cut. <\/p>\n

<\/p>\n

Today you\u2019re being told your tax cut is being blocked by the Republicans because they also want the rich to get a tax cut. There isn\u2019t a tax cut on the table, and if this goes to the brink there will not be a tax cut next year, either. Oh, it\u2019ll be called that. It\u2019ll be labeled a tax cut for the middle class, authored by Obama, who cares about growing the economy, who cares about people getting a fair shake. And when it\u2019s all over, nobody\u2019s tax rates are gonna change, except the rich, whose tax rates will go up. The top 2%, no matter what happens here, will see their rates go up to 39.6, back to the Clinton years. The odds of that are so strong. <\/p>\n

If the Republicans hold out on that, then they\u2019re gonna get killed politically, and they don\u2019t know how to stop it. They don\u2019t know how to talk around it. They don\u2019t know how to swat that insect away. They\u2019re going to be accused of denying a tax cut for you, defending the rich. Obama has set this up, it\u2019s exactly what he wants. He wants the Republicans isolated as appearing to be in opposition to 98% of the country and in favor and supporting 2%, who already have enough, who already have more than they need. And if you listen to Bill Clinton, people aren\u2019t even asking for a tax cut. Well, guess what? Nobody is going to get one. I don\u2019t care who you are. I don\u2019t care where you live. I don\u2019t care who you voted for, nobody is getting a tax cut with Obamacare alone. <\/p>\n

The new rules have just been introduced this week, nobody is getting a tax cut. It isn\u2019t happening. But the low-information voters are being told that there\u2019s a tax cut that\u2019s on the table waiting, it\u2019s the Republicans that are standing in the way. None of it\u2019s true. The Republicans have been lassoed by a series of lies, mischaracterizations, misstatements, and, God bless, they\u2019re trying to hold out for the right thing. They just don\u2019t know how to explain it. And I have done the best I can in the time I\u2019ve got.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: The New York Times just tweeted: “Boehner doesn\u2019t rule out raising tax rates.” So there you go. Boehner\u2019s negotiating with himself, is what\u2019s happening. If that happens, I guarantee you, the whole premise of tax cuts is gonna be blamed for all of this economic mess. It\u2019s gonna be written in history books, any book, anything taught, Saturday morning cartoons: tax cuts, not government spending, not irresponsible entitlements, not the welfare state, none of that, that gets a pass. It will be tax cuts. <\/p>\n

Obama\u2019s premise that this country\u2019s first 220 years were fraudulent and that he\u2019s now fixing it, he\u2019s now correcting all those founding mistakes, will be etched in stone. Tax cuts lead to economic disaster. Tax cuts lead to economic unfairness. Tax cuts lead to people who shouldn\u2019t be rich becoming rich. Tax cuts lead to people who shouldn\u2019t be rich staying rich. Tax cuts means rich people do not pay their fair share. That will become economics 101. Tax cuts is what caused the fall of the United States from superpower status. <\/p>\n

So for 25 years, a generation, tax cuts are evil. Low-information voters, they\u2019re rounding third base on this premise. Almost home. Just need Boehner to go along with raising the rates, and that\u2019s it. Republican Party\u2019s finished. Their number one identifier\u2019s gone, party of low taxes and economic growth. Nope, party of tax cuts and economic disaster. That\u2019s what they will become. Media and Obama will see to it. <\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Boehner was asked about a top rate increase, a top tax rate increase that would be short of 39.6%, and he said, “Well, there are a lot of things possible to come from revenue, if the president seizes the opportunity.” The rumor being that Boehner might settle for 37%. Anything less than 39.6 might be acceptable.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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