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RUSH: Mike in Redondo Beach, California. Hi. Great to have you here. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Thanks, Rush. And thank you for keeping me sane during this election. You know, this supposed unidentified Republican operative, if I even believe he exists — and that\u2019s a whole other call, I realize. But this operative is saying Romney can\u2019t win if Republicans refuse to subvert US immigration laws by supporting amnesty like Obama\u2019s done<\/a>. I\u2019d like to ask this guy: How big was John McCain\u2019s win in 2008, the GOP\u2019s chief advocate for amnesty? I mean, McCain won even less of the Hispanic vote than Bush did. And if amnesty is the path to victory, why isn\u2019t Obama running away with this election?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Excellent point. Excellent points to which I have responses. As to McCain, yes, it is obvious — very clear — that McCain was pro-amnesty. He didn\u2019t like the word, but McCain was identified with wanting it. A far as the Hispanic community was concerned, McCain was okay. He was all for relaxing immigration law. Whether it was amnesty or not, McCain was all for it. What the establishment guys will tell you is that the conservative wing of the party undermined McCain by making sure that the Republican Party did not succeed in joining the Democrats in that policy. So while the Hispanics…<\/p>\n

CALLER: Rush —<\/p>\n

RUSH: This is what they would tell you. While the Hispanic voters would look at McCain and say, “Yeah, he\u2019s one of us. He\u2019s for us,” they still couldn\u2019t vote for him because the party wasn\u2019t. And remember it was the conservatives who finally got a fire lit under the House Republicans in the summer of 2007 to kill it. They were on the road to immigration<\/a> amnesty. They were on the road, the Democrats and Republicans in Congress, and finally it was brought to a screeching halt. And so the consultants would tell you that McCain could not overcome the fact that his party undermined him. Therefore, it was not worth voting for him. Your point is valid. I\u2019m giving you what they would say as their answer to it. You\u2019re exactly right. If amnesty was it, McCain shoulda won big, and Obama should be running away with this by now. You\u2019re exactly right.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Thanks, Rush.<\/p>\n

RUSH: All right. McCain lost the Hispanic vote by 36 points, by the way, in 2008. Would somebody want to try to explain to me…? You know, if I say it, there\u2019s nothing left to be said. We all know that. That\u2019s why sometimes I hold back, to give you people on the phones a chance to contribute. So let me put it out there. Instead of answering my own question, I\u2019m just gonna put it out there. And over the course of the next day or two, if somebody wants to call in and try to answer it, I\u2019d be more than welcome, appreciative to hear it.<\/p>\n

<\/a>Why is the Republican establishment so invested in amnesty? Why is it, whenever you hear references to Republican establishment types, their gloom (in every presidential race) is we\u2019re gonna lose because of our position on immigration, which means we oppose amnesty? Why? Of all the issues out there that the party might unify on, all the issues there are to run a campaign on, why is immigration the number one issue the establishment cares about?<\/p>\n

Why are they so obsessed with it to the point of wanting Hispanic voters to believe that we will relax immigration law as the Democrats will do? Why? Why that over the economy? Why that over anything else? Why is it immigration that seems to be the most important — and one-and-only — issue the Republican establishment thinks explains our losses, or our defeats? While you think about it, here\u2019s Paul in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. Great to have you on the program. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Thanks, Rush. I have a question. It kind of delves into what you were talking about there. I want to ask you what your opinion was, your professional opinion of what percentage of the electorate out there is even wavering one way or the other on about who they\u2019re going to choose? It\u2019s my opinion that whether we go into this party down there and with a D\u2019Souza <\/a>tone or if we go in there with a Charlie Crist tone — as it seems like you\u2019re telling us that\u2019s what they\u2019re gonna do —<\/p>\n

RUSH: It sounds like it.<\/p>\n

CALLER: — it\u2019s not gonna make one difference or the other. I don\u2019t think there\u2019s a high percentage of the electorate out there that\u2019s wavering one way or the other. They know who they\u2019re going to vote for.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, the conventional wisdom on this is that right now there are between three and five percent of the people are gonna vote who don\u2019t know yet how they\u2019re gonna vote.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: In other words, 97 to 96% of voters already know how they\u2019re gonna vote. So your question is: Why all this rigmarole over so few people?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes, sir. And not only that, I don\u2019t believe that we could win that group in the first place, because they have to nearly be mentally ill.<\/line><\/p>\n

RUSH: What, the three to four percent that don\u2019t yet know?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah. In today\u2019s technology, the social media and 24-hour news cycles and all this, if you are that far out of the loop, then you\u2019re not going to vote for a conservative or a Republican anyway.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Why?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Why even pander to them? Why?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Whoa, whoa, whoa. I\u2019m just interested in your thought process. Why would you think that the three to four percent would never vote conservative Republican?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Because if they are that out of touch — with all the available media that\u2019s out there — then obviously they have no education, because they would vote conservative if they did.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Ah, okay. Okay. So it\u2019s the morons.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Why even pander to them? And I also think I have an answer for your last question, and I think that question is “fear.” They do not want to be labeled, these establishment types in DC that hang around DC and the Beltway crowd. They do not wish to be labeled as a racist. It\u2019s this fear of being called racist. And that\u2019s the reason that they put immigration higher than anything else. They\u2019re so scared to be called racist.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Really?<\/p>\n

CALLER: That\u2019s the most important thing to them in the entire world. (snorts)<\/p>\n

RUSH: So it\u2019s no more complicated than that? They want amnesty and they want immigration to be liberalized simply so people won\u2019t think of them as bigots?<\/p>\n

CALLER: That\u2019s it! That\u2019s the only reason. That\u2019s the only reason.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay.<\/p>\n

CALLER: They have no core principles.<\/p>\n

RUSH: All right. We\u2019ll throw that one in the hopper. And the three to five percent that haven\u2019t made up their minds yet, that\u2019s it. That\u2019s the max. Okay, so why even campaign then?<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Ginny in Lake Ontario, New York. Great to have you on the EIB Network. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: (muffled audio) Hi, Rush. It\u2019s so nice to talk to you.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you very much.<\/p>\n

CALLER: What a pleasure. Well, my point was if they want to hang the hurricane <\/a>on Bush and the Republicans and, “Oh, dear, it\u2019s all their fault,” and everything, some Republicans should stand up and say, “Hey, what about all the fires and the drought out in the Midwest and out on the coast? Isn\u2019t that Obama\u2019s fault? And look how he\u2019s handled it.” Look at all the houses that have burned up. We\u2019ve never had such things happen before.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, but see, here\u2019s the problem with that. And you\u2019re exactly right. But the problem with it is that there\u2019s 50 years of theme making that we\u2019re dealing with, and there are overall themes. One of the themes is, “Republicans kill people.” Another theme is, “Republicans poison the air and water.” Another theme is, “Republicans want to cut Social Security.” Another one is, “Republicans want to cut Medicare.” Another one is, “Republicans only want the rich to have money.”<\/p>\n

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Another one is, “the Republicans hate poor people and will take everything they\u2019ve got.” And that\u2019s been out there for 50 years. So a hurricane shows up and devastates a Democrat town with a Republican president. “Well, it\u2019s obvious! The Republican president doesn\u2019t care. The poor people are Democrats in there, and that Republican didn\u2019t stop the hurricane. Nobody tried to stop it, and then when it came time to bring FEMA in there, the trailers got in there late and Bush was strumming the guitar. See? He doesn\u2019t care.”<\/p>\n

But, along with that 50-year theme that Republicans hate people is the theme that Democrats love people and want to give them everything. So when genuine Democrat destruction takes place, it\u2019s just not believable that the Democrats would do that. It\u2019s like Howard Dean said<\/a> on TV recently to the Republicans, (paraphrasing) “You go ahead. Every day, you go ahead and tell people Obama cut $716 billion from Medicare. Nobody\u2019s gonna believe it. Nobody\u2019s gonna believe Democrats would cut Medicare.”<\/p>\n

But, Howard, they did. It\u2019s right there. The CBO, everybody says it. We could read from the bill. We could read from Obama\u2019s speeches: $716 billion in Medicare. Yeah, he said, go ahead, you and I both know that Obama cut $700 billion in Medicare, but the people aren\u2019t gonna believe it. Nobody\u2019s gonna believe the Democrats cut anything. But everybody will believe that you did. And that\u2019s, what do you call, branding, PR, image? I mean that stuff\u2019s gonna have to change or else you do one other thing. You sit there and wait for people to realize it on their own. Which is what the Republicans do.<\/p>\n

I had people at the Bush White House tell me that the reason they didn\u2019t respond is because they didn\u2019t want to make the story last any longer than it otherwise would, and they figured by responding it gives life to the story. And the second thing is, people aren\u2019t gonna believe that. They\u2019re not gonna believe that we want people to get harmed, nobody\u2019s gonna believe that. They think that at some point, and they\u2019ve thought this for 30 years, that average Americans are gonna finally stand up, and say, “Come on, who are you kidding, Republicans want old people to lose their social security?” Even after 30 years of allegations that Republicans want to cut Social Security — and there have never been any — no senior citizens ever lost Social Security.<\/p>\n

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The Democrats still make the charge, the Republicans still deny it, and to a certain extent, by the way, in Florida, I think the emptiness of the Democrat position finally is known now. I don\u2019t think the charge is as effective as it used to be. But the problem is that the Republicans are just waiting for time to take care of this. It would be like if you had a retail business or a product, and it was thought of in a certain way, it was characterized by your competitors as a product that kills people, except it doesn\u2019t. You just say, “Well, I\u2019m gonna keep making the product and I\u2019m gonna keep selling the product and I\u2019m gonna rely on people realizing that people aren\u2019t dying from using it. And eventually people will realize that my competitors are lying.” That\u2019s the Republican strategy, is to leave it up to the people to figure out that the Democrats are making it all up. Admit it. Isn\u2019t that another reason why you get frustrated? You don\u2019t want to spend the 150 years it will take.<\/p>\n

Oh, reminds me. I meant to weigh in on this undecided business. The caller right before the end of the half hour, who wanted know why, if there\u2019s only three to five percent of people who are gonna vote who haven\u2019t made up their minds yet, his theory is they\u2019re obviously morons, because as easy as it is to know what Obama is and what Romney is, if there are three to five percent of people who gonna vote who haven\u2019t made up their mind yet, they have to be morons, so why even try for \u2019em? Okay, if you believe that number, three to five percent, and Gallup, by the way, in their polling data says it\u2019s between eight and ten percent, but what\u2019s interesting, it\u2019s not the 20% that everybody usually uses. The standard operating theory is 40% vote Republican automatically, 40% vote Democrat automatically, 20% wait to make up their mind. Those are the independents.<\/p>\n

Oh, yeah. The 20%. And that\u2019s who the consultants tell the candidates they can get the votes from. “I\u2019m a consultant. I\u2019m the best guy at getting votes of the independents. I know how to do it.” So the candidates hire them, and every campaign is oriented toward that 20%. Everybody else is taken for granted. Now the number is, depending on where you look, anywhere between four and ten percent undecided. But if you believe that whatever the number is, that it\u2019s impossible to be undecided with as much media, social media, 24-hour media as there is, why bother even campaigning? ‘Cause if you haven\u2019t got \u2019em by now, you don\u2019t have a prayer. Well, by definition, the Democrats don\u2019t have \u2019em either. But if you believe that, why even campaign?<\/p>\n

What\u2019s the point of a campaign if it\u2019s not to persuade? Well, I know you want to affirm your base, I mean you gotta turn them out. But really, what\u2019s the purpose of the campaign if the undecided are unwinnable, if that\u2019s your attitude. I, by the way, am not sure that that three to five percent number is accurate. What do you think, Snerdley? What do you think the percentage is of people who have not made up their minds? This election, right now, on August 27th, of the people that are gonna vote? Just 5%? You think it is small, it\u2019s just 5%? See, I think it\u2019s a lot higher than that. I think it\u2019s a lot higher. And it\u2019s not that people can\u2019t stand Obama. I think it\u2019s that people can\u2019t stand politics, period.<\/p>\n

I think the people that haven\u2019t made up their minds, the people that aren\u2019t paying attention aren\u2019t because they don\u2019t like it. It ticks them off. They don\u2019t think the people in it are honest or it bores them or — pick your reason, it doesn\u2019t interest them, everybody in it\u2019s a liar, everybody in it\u2019s a crook. Their vote doesn\u2019t matter. Whatever the reason is, I think it\u2019s a lot higher than 5% haven\u2019t made up their minds. Just my gut instinct. I think it\u2019s a lot higher. And whatever the number is, it directly correlates to the number of people who aren\u2019t paying attention. And so the question then becomes, “Well, if they\u2019re not paying attention, how the hell do you reach \u2019em?” And therein lies the key to victory.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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