{"id":15222,"date":"2012-07-03T18:26:46","date_gmt":"2012-07-03T18:26:46","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2012-07-03T18:26:46","modified_gmt":"2012-07-03T18:26:46","slug":"callers_frustrated_with_mitch_mcconnell_republicans_tax_v_penalty_distraction_and_john_roberts_selling_us_out","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2012\/07\/03\/callers_frustrated_with_mitch_mcconnell_republicans_tax_v_penalty_distraction_and_john_roberts_selling_us_out\/","title":{"rendered":"Callers Frustrated with Mitch McConnell, Republicans, Tax v. Penalty Distraction, and John Roberts Selling Us Out"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>RUSH: Robert, New Orleans, I\u2019m glad you waited.  I really appreciate your patience.  Welcome to the program.  Great to have you with us.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER:  Multi-mega-ton dittos, Maha Rushie.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH:  Thank you very much.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER:  You are lighting the way for all Americans every day, and we thank you for that, sir.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH:  Well, I appreciate it, sir.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER:  You know, this argument about whether it\u2019s a penalty or a tax is nothing, nothing but a diversion.  Obama and the Democrats and the media are talking about if it\u2019s this or if it\u2019s that.  It\u2019s not.  It\u2019s both.  I have read some of the bill.  I haven\u2019t read it all, but I\u2019ve read some of it, and so far I have counted almost 20 new taxes.  Not even considering that, Congress has already taken away half of the Medicare taxes that we pay in from on our payroll taxes every payday, have taken half of that, $500 million dollars worth of tax money to implement this monstrosity.  So there is no argument whether it\u2019s a penalty or whether it\u2019s a tax.  It\u2019s both.  And then the penalty kicks in later.  And beyond that, there\u2019s another thing that people are assuming and I\u2019m hearing it creep in to the media\u2019s commentary on this, and it\u2019s not true.  They are saying that the Supreme Court ratified a tax.  They didn\u2019t.  The question of whether the tax itself was constitutional has never been raised before the Supreme Court because it can\u2019t because of the Injunction Act, no court has jurisdiction over it.  Until the tax or the penalty or whatever Obama\u2019s calling it this week, they\u2019re not going to be able to discuss that issue before a court.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" id=\"eZObject_64345\" class=\"aligncenter\" align=\"middle\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/RushDittoheadNationMap070312.jpg\"\/><\/p>\n<p>RUSH:  That\u2019s true.  What he\u2019s talking about, the Anti-Injunction Act, which is the first thing they talked about in oral arguments in this case, the Anti-Injunction Act states that a court can\u2019t rule on a tax until it\u2019s been levied, \u2019til it\u2019s been collected and paid.  And these taxes that we\u2019re talking about here don\u2019t implement \u2019til 2014.  But it is a tax in the sense that the chief justice called what the government can do to penalize you a tax in order for it to be constitutional.  But it isn\u2019t constitutional.  That\u2019s what\u2019s so abhorrent about all of this.  It\u2019s an abject disaster.  And you\u2019re right.  I\u2019m glad you agree with me.  It\u2019s a sideshow to talk about whether this is a penalty or a tax.  It\u2019s a diversion, and it\u2019s a technique for people to avoid dealing with the substance of this, which is an out-of-control court, an out-of-control Congress, and a federal government that is operating outside the bounds of the Constitution. <\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s what\u2019s going on here.  I just think the fastest way to clue people in and get \u2019em refocused is to tell them what the details of their health care are going to be as according to this law.  Tell them exactly what\u2019s in store for them in terms of liberty and freedom down the road, and of course their back pocket, and there\u2019s another way to attach to this, too, and that is the economic impact of it.  Everything Barack Obama has done has done great damage to our economy.  Every single policy, from the stimulus on.  Everything Obama has done has resulted in a slowdown and then a further slowdown, then another slowdown of the United States economy and a shrinkage of the private sector.  And we ain\u2019t seen nothing yet \u2019til this thing gets implemented. <\/p>\n<p>The economic impact of this, the impact on the private sector economy of Obamacare, will dwarf the impact of the stimulus and all of the other Obama programs combined.  I say that, it\u2019s hard for people understand it, \u2019cause people don\u2019t want to believe that elected officials would have this kind of design on their own country.  &#8216;Cause people don\u2019t want to believe that we have people here that want to rule, not govern, that want to succumb to their authoritarian instincts and their dictatorial instincts.  It\u2019s exactly what we have.  It\u2019s been staring us in the face for years.  That\u2019s what liberalism is. <\/p>\n<p>Liberalism believes that no one\u2019s incompetent, no one\u2019s capable of making their own choices.  It\u2019s not enough if a liberal wants to be a vegetarian, not enough.  You have to be one, too, otherwise you\u2019re a threat.  If a liberal believes that oil is causing global warming, we have to get rid of it, and you have to agree, too, and if you don\u2019t, then you have to somehow be punished, penalized, or done away with.  It\u2019s not enough for them to think what they think.  They demand compliance with it all. <\/p>\n<p>Laura in Chicago.  I\u2019m glad you waited.  Welcome to the EIB Network.  Hello.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER:  Hi, Rush.  I\u2019m sorry.  I\u2019m really nervous. <\/p>\n<p>RUSH:  I\u2019ve been where you are.  I understand being nervous, but you\u2019re gonna want to repeat this experience again and again and again.  Don\u2019t be nervous.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" id=\"eZObject_64346\" class=\"alignright\" align=\"right\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/McConnell-Plan.jpg\"\/><BR\/>CALLER:  Okay.  I feel, you know what, I\u2019m a Tea Party member, and I\u2019m like Yosemite Sam, I\u2019m stomping mad right now.  I feel like John Roberts sold us out and that makes me mad, but I\u2019m watching the TV and there are two people that are really, really irritating me right now.  The first one is Mitch McConnell.  I saw him in an interview yesterday about repealing this and trying to fight back and he was, I don\u2019t know if somebody just woke him or what, he looked like he was half asleep. And he was just like, &#8220;Yeah, well we\u2019re not gonna win this one,&#8221; and I\u2019m thinking, are you kidding me?  I almost jumped through the TV and grabbed him.<\/line><\/p>\n<p>RUSH:  Now, wait, he didn\u2019t say that, but it\u2019s interesting that\u2019s your reaction.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER:  I know he wants to fight, but he doesn\u2019t sound like a person who\u2019s willing to get in there and do it for us.  He seemed tired and old and we need somebody that\u2019s got some, I don\u2019t know &#8212; a different &#8212; I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH:  Well, the active train of thought on this goes something like this.  &#8220;Rush, this thing is so damn complicated to implement that getting rid of it, so damn much more complicated, I don\u2019t think that we could really expect to get rid of all of it, it is so complicated.&#8221; And that is so much BS.  &#8220;Well, but, Rush, some of this stuff\u2019s already been implemented, you know, and some people like it.&#8221;  Yeah, but what are we talking about?  We\u2019re talking about defending, protecting, saving the Constitution, the republic, individual liberty and freedom.  Repealing this thing, they want you to believe how hard it would be, a monumental task.  It\u2019s got so many tentacles that are already out there worming their way through the culture in ways that we haven\u2019t even seen yet but if we take them away people will realize it and they won\u2019t want it, it will be harmful and so forth. <\/p>\n<p>The vast majority of this has not implemented.  There have been waivers galore, and, by definition, the benefits, the, quote, unquote, benefits don\u2019t kick in until 2014 and 2015 anyway.  And you know why?  So they could keep the ten-year cost under this mythical trillion dollars.  The tax increases are what have implemented.  The tax increases are the beginning.  They happen for two years before any of the so-called benefits kick in.  So there isn\u2019t really a whole lot of benefit to take away.  I think it is the preexisting condition.  I\u2019m gonna get the terminology wrong here.  But there is a mechanism whereby people can register or enroll for it, and the number of people who have is minuscule.  This was six months ago, maybe less than that, maybe three months ago, but it was recent past.  And everybody was shocked at how few people had availed themselves of the opportunity to enroll in this preexisting condition pool.  It\u2019s not a whole lot of people, yet. <\/p>\n<p>It wouldn\u2019t be that difficult to repeal this.  Basically a piece of paper says Obamacare is now repealed.  These things are not nearly as complicated as people want you to believe, telling you you don\u2019t understand, and it\u2019s very complicated, and much more involved here &#8212; (interruption) Yeah, the high-risk pools.  There was a pool that was set up for people who are very, very high risk, that they could immediately sign up for and enroll in.  And it was shocking to people how few people had taken advantage of it.  It\u2019s not that many people here who have become ensnared by the tentacles of the bill. <\/p>\n<p>Now, the McConnell quote, he says it\u2019s a lot harder to undo something than it is to stop it in the first place.  I\u2019m confident they\u2019re gonna give us the votes to repeal it.  He\u2019ll do whatever he can to repeal the law, but he told a Rotary Club type group, 50 people, I think it was back in Kentucky, might have been in Washington somewhere, small group of people.  He made it known how difficult it\u2019s gonna be to repeal this, and he told \u2019em he\u2019s not sure it can be.  And people have heard that, and they have assumed that his heart\u2019s not in it, which I don\u2019t think is the case.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH:  Bloomsburg, Pennsylvania.  That\u2019s our next stop on the phones here on Open Line Friday on Tuesday, and is it Verina, great to have you here.  Hi.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER:  Hi, sir.  How are you?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH:  Very well.  Thanks.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER:  I\u2019ve been listening to you since I was a very young teenager.  Not to date you.  I remember one of my favorite songs was Secret Asian Man.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH:  Ho-ho-ho. Yeah, going way, way back.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER:  Yeah.  Well, I\u2019m 32 years old now, and I have four children, and I wanted to comment on your question about are those people under 40 or under 30 paying attention.  On Thursday when the decision came out I was furious and absolutely disgusted.  And I view Roberts, Obama, and everyone under him as traitors.  Traitors to our country, what the principles of our country are, they\u2019re trying to destroy.  I think it comes down to a basic philosophy of how you view government.  Who has the right to make your decisions?  Do you have the right to make your own decisions or does the government have the right to make your own decisions?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH:  That\u2019s the argument.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER:  Who is most qualified?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH:  That\u2019s the argument that we\u2019re all having.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER:  Well, I don\u2019t understand why the answer isn\u2019t clear.  I mean we have countless examples of mess-ups that the federal government has done.  I mean look at our public school system.<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/?page_id=37804\"><img decoding=\"async\" id=\"eZObject_64356\" class=\"alignright\" align=\"right\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/000MostDangerousMan.jpg\"\/><\/a>RUSH:  Well, the answer is really simple, but it\u2019s hard to believe.  Most of this stuff is very easy.  It\u2019s just hard to believe.  The reason why we\u2019re debating this is because there are people who want to make your decisions for you.  Liberals are a very specific bunch.  You and I are conservatives.  We believe in individual liberty and self-reliance and making your own way, dealing with the consequences of life.  And if we find people that disagree with us, okay, they disagree with us.  We sometimes try gentle persuasion, get them to join us and so forth.  We would never, ever, you and I would never, ever think of using the force of government to squash them &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>CALLER:  Right.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH:  &#8212; simply because they disagree with us.  Because we don\u2019t consider them threats just because they disagree with us.  They are the most intolerant bunch around, and they\u2019re essentially so insecure that if they are near people who disagree with what they believe, those people have to be silenced, and those people want the government to take care of you, meaning deal with you.  They want the government making decisions for everybody because that\u2019s how they think there\u2019s going to be fairness and equality and other related things.  They live their lives destined to get control of government so that they can make everybody do what they want them to do.  You and I don\u2019t think that way.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER:  Right.  &#8216;Cause we\u2019re secure in what we know.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH:  Well, we believe in freedom.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER:  Right.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH:  We believe in liberty.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER:  Right.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH:  We believe in liberty and freedom to do stupid things, to do dumb things, to be wrong.  We believe in the freedom to do that.  We also believe in the freedom of the consequences of your actions and so forth.  What\u2019s hard to understand, hard for some people to accept, is that there are people &#8212; I think it\u2019s becoming easier now for people to accept it, by the way &#8212; but there are people who essentially want to squish and eliminate people that don\u2019t see things the way they do. <\/p>\n<p>I use this example too much, and I don\u2019t mean to focus on vegetarians, but they do irritate me.  They irritate me all to hell.  I don\u2019t want them telling me how to eat.  I don\u2019t want them telling me if I eat that I\u2019m gonna die or I\u2019m destroying the planet, \u2019cause I know I\u2019m not.  I\u2019m not stupid.  I don\u2019t suffer fools well. I don\u2019t deal with people that are this way very well.  If they want to be vegetarians for whatever convoluted, stupid reason, they are more than free to be.  But do not make me live the way you do, and do not think that\u2019s the purpose of government.  And that\u2019s who we\u2019re up against.  And I\u2019m talking about sniveling little people in their pajamas who do nothing but write blogs all day that are leftists.  That\u2019s how they think, too.  It\u2019s not just the people in Washington who run the Democrat Party or all the think tanks.  All of their minions believe the same thing. <\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s what the argument\u2019s about.  And all these things that are associated with that, they\u2019re tolerant, they\u2019re understanding, compassionate, none of it is applicable to them.  I know you were talking about my comments about people under 40.  That was a comment on how people have been educated, not on people\u2019s intelligence.  People under 40, in a CNN poll, are evenly divided on health care.  And that\u2019s only because they haven\u2019t been taught what the Constitution is.  Young people particularly think it is the role of government to level the playing field and to manage outcomes so that everybody ends up the same way because that\u2019s fair and they think that\u2019s what the Constitution is, and that\u2019s what they think government is.  Because that\u2019s what they\u2019ve been taught.  And that\u2019s the problem of the education system.  Verina, thanks much.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>RUSH: Robert, New Orleans, I\u2019m glad you waited. I really appreciate your patience. Welcome to the program. Great to have you with us. CALLER: Multi-mega-ton dittos, Maha Rushie. RUSH: Thank you very much. CALLER: You are lighting the way for all Americans every day, and we thank you for that, sir. 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