{"id":15590,"date":"2012-05-25T17:20:07","date_gmt":"2012-05-25T17:20:07","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2012-05-25T17:20:07","modified_gmt":"2012-05-25T17:20:07","slug":"are_democrats_finally_seeing_what_we_knew_about_obama_four_years_ago","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2012\/05\/25\/are_democrats_finally_seeing_what_we_knew_about_obama_four_years_ago\/","title":{"rendered":"Are Democrats Finally Seeing What We Knew About Obama Four Years Ago?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>RUSH: Last night, PBS, Charlie Rose had as his guest a guy named Donald Gogel, president, chief executive officer at private equity firm Clayton, Dubilier &amp; Rice.  Charlie Rose said to Donald Gogel, &#8220;You were a strong supporter of the president in 2008.  Are you concerned about the nature of the president\u2019s rhetoric on private equity and Bain Capital and Mitt Romney?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>GOGEL:  I\u2019m concerned that in the noise, in the tornado of politics (and unfortunately it\u2019s become a tornado) we\u2019re gonna lose what is most essential to this country, which is the ability for individuals to band together, free association, free enterprise, create businesses, and create jobs.<\/p>\n<p><img id=\"eZObject_62796\" class=\"aligncenter\" align=\"middle\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/Gogel.jpg\"\/><\/p>\n<p>RUSH:  Okay, now, here\u2019s a CEO, private equity, big Obama guy 2008, you hear him talk like this.  This is my question.  See, this is what frustrates me.  Why did it take this guy three years to see who Obama is?  Let\u2019s be honest, folks.  You and I know and knew who Obama was and is four years ago.  We knew who he was when he made that speech at the Democrat convention in Boston in 2004.  Why?  Because we know who liberals are.  We know what liberalism is.  This is why I always say that if more people would simply look at politics through an ideological lens rather than a party lens&#8230; even now, I\u2019m probably not gonna express this very well.  I wish I had printed this out, what I\u2019m gonna refer to.  I wish I had it in front of me. <\/p>\n<p>It was a piece I was reading last night about presidential politics and the election, and it spoke of Obama and his campaign as a standard, ordinary Democrat Party campaign with all of the assumptions.  And the big assumption was that Obama wants jobs created and Obama wants the country to recover from this economic downturn and he\u2019s got some policies.  I read this and I\u2019m incredulous.  By the way, and people that write this stuff, comment on it, are in the establishment.  They\u2019re the supposed smartest people in the room, and even they don\u2019t get it, like this guy didn\u2019t get it, Donald Gogel.  And I\u2019m not being critical.  I don\u2019t want anybody calling Donald Gogel and telling him that Rush Limbaugh\u2019s ripping him.  It\u2019s not what I\u2019m doing.  I\u2019m just incredulous.  This Gogel guy is obviously very smart.  He voted for Obama. <\/p>\n<p>I could have told him that Obama would create a tornado of politics, that Obama was behind the effort to lose what\u2019s most essential to this country: individuals banding together, free association, free enterprise, create business. I coulda told him just based on what I heard Obama say in private that we had the tape of and in public in campaign speeches, I coulda told him that what was gonna happen has happened. I could have be predicted it for him.  He could have, too, if he would have seen Obama as a liberal and not just a Democrat, or worse than a liberal.  But the good news is Mr. Gogel has seen it.  A lot of people are seeing it.  The frustrating thing is that ten years from now this is all gonna happen again, all be repeated.  Some brand-new liberal will come along and they\u2019ll say the same things they said about Obama. &#8220;Unlike anybody we\u2019ve ever seen, smart, smooth, educated, Harvard, unifier.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>It will be the same load of crap, and everybody will fall for it, knowing full well what Obama was. Just other Democrat. This Democrat may work out.  And yet if these people had the ability to see Obama not as a Democrat, but as a liberal, they would have never taken a chance on the guy, knowing full well what his attitude is about private equity.  I don\u2019t know, maybe Obama\u2019s lying to these people when he\u2019s raising money from \u2019em, I don\u2019t know.  But I have to tell you, I was incredulous over this, as you would be if you ran into somebody who thinks two plus two is five.  Well, that\u2019s the way I am when people don\u2019t see liberals for who they are.  That\u2019s the way I am, because it\u2019s so abundantly clear to me.  I\u2019m concerned that in the noise, a tornado of politics, that we\u2019re gonna lose what is most essential.  He\u2019s responding to a question about Obama\u2019s attacks on private equity, which is his business.  So here\u2019s the next bite.  Donald Gogel, CEO, private equity firm Clayton, Dubilier &amp; Rice. <\/p>\n<p>Charlie Rose says, &#8220;You told me in a Businessweek interview, when I asked you, that you were a strong supporter of Obama &#8212; and then you had this change. Were you now trending to supporting Governor Romney?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img id=\"eZObject_62800\" class=\"alignright\" align=\"right\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/ObamaThrillisGone.jpg\"\/><\/p>\n<p>GOGEL: (whispering) I believe that a number of the policies that Governor Romney is proposing are pro-growth. Uh, we\u2019d like to see a lot more. It\u2019s a long time between now and the election. I think we\u2019ll see more about the policies for job formation, about tax reform and a variety of other things. But right now I am disappointed that President Obama\u2019s &#8212;<\/p>\n<p>ROSE: (whispering) You think right now Governor Romney is better for the economy and for business than President Obama?<\/p>\n<p>GOGEL: I do.<\/p>\n<p>ROSE: And you\u2019re more likely to support Governor Romney?<\/p>\n<p>GOGEL: I am.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: No, no, that\u2019s great. Now, don\u2019t misunderstand. This is wonderful. Maybe I\u2019m living a pipe dream. See, I don\u2019t think I\u2019m that smart. I think every would be at least as smart as I am when it comes to liberals. I\u2019m not kidding. Spotting liberals and&#8230; For God\u2019s sakes, what was the Great Society? What the War on Poverty? Show me where it\u2019s ever worked. I know that half the country\u2019s getting checks. And I know that 88 million Americans are not working but they\u2019re eating, and it\u2019s a statistic that worries me.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s quite telling that 88 million are not working but they\u2019re eating.<\/p>\n<p>I understand this. I understand all of it. But I\u2019m not&#8230; (interruption) No! (sigh) I want them to have more than what they\u2019re eating! I don\u2019t want to have \u2019em have to eat food stamp potato chips and whatever &#8212; or maybe they\u2019re getting Dom Perignon. Hell, I don\u2019t know. I want them to be able to provide as much for themselves as they want, not have to depend on meager handouts. But I look at the lie of the 1980s and everybody who lived through the eighties knows full well what happened.<\/p>\n<p>Yet they\u2019re able to be convinced that it was all a lie and that this is the way to go? I\u2019m telling you, I\u2019m stupefied. It\u2019s never worked anywhere! Liberalism, socialism, they have to build walls to keep people in the country! You have to have an expanding government and be dictating to people what they can and can\u2019t do for these &#8220;wonderful programs&#8221; to work. These are smart people that run these private equity firms. Look, a lot of these private equity guys on the Republican side, I know are just as dense when it comes to ideological politics.<\/p>\n<p>To them it\u2019s all Republican versus Democrat.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s why they all supported McCain.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;He\u2019s the Republican.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019d tell \u2019em what my problems with him were and it was like talking to a brick wall. They didn\u2019t get it. These are the people who fall for this notion, &#8220;We gotta compromise, gotta bring everyone together!&#8221; Hell, at this golf tournament I was talking to a guy. He said, &#8220;The biggest problem we have, Rush, is we gotta make everybody Americans again. We gotta bring people together.&#8221; I said, &#8220;Aw, crap,&#8221; except I didn\u2019t say &#8220;crap;&#8221; I said something else.<\/p>\n<p>And I got up, and I went back to the lavatory, and I practically threw up.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Gotta bring people together,&#8221; my ass!<\/p>\n<p>We have got to defeat liberals, so that guys like Mr. Gogel don\u2019t make the mistake of voting for \u2019em and learning through actual experience about his company being brought to its knees that he shouldn\u2019t have. (groans)<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n<p>To hell with it.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Folks, don\u2019t misunderstand me here. I, of course, would love everybody come together. I love unity. I\u2019d love it if everybody got along. But I live in Realville. It\u2019s not gonna happen. It\u2019s never happened. It\u2019s never been the case in human history. The country has never been unified. Even in the days of the founding there were people that wanted to stop it. And after we were founded, and after the Constitution was ratified, there were people that set out to undermine it.<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019ve never been unified! I would love everybody to come together and understand the perils of liberalism. I would love that, but I know it\u2019s not going to happen. What then needs to be done is to keep them in a permanent minority so that they\u2019re always losing elections and kept away from power. I don\u2019t want to be unified with people who are diametrically opposed. The kind of country we have matters to me; it\u2019s one of the most important things.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, we have one more sound bite from Mr. Gogel, Donald Gogel. He\u2019s the president and CEO of a private equity firm. He\u2019s just said to Charlie Rose he\u2019s supporting Romney, believes Romney is much better for job creation and the economy and for business. So Charlie says, &#8220;Well, President Obama was here in New York. He went to see some people in the very business that you\u2019re in and raise money from them. When he comes to raise money, what does he say?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/?page_id=37804\"><img id=\"eZObject_62803\" class=\"alignright\" align=\"right\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/RushJoinRush247.jpg\"\/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>GOGEL: I can tell you that a number of the people surrounding the president that are trying to gain support of Wall Street &#8212; people in the financial community and the broader business community, so that\u2019s Main Street as well as Wall Street &#8212; have asked people for a little more forbearance. That we should just recognize this is typical politics and that things will settle down and we\u2019ll get a more measured approach to all of these issues.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: So what Mr. Gogel is saying is that Obama\u2019s minions said, &#8220;Look, we have to say this stuff. We have to attack private equity. We have to attack you. But understand it\u2019s just politics. When we win the election, it\u2019s cool.&#8221; It\u2019s just like he told Dmitry Mededev, &#8220;Hey, tell Vlad I\u2019ll be able to get rid of the nukes after I win. I\u2019ll have more flexibility.&#8221; Now it\u2019s, &#8220;You private equity guys gotta understand that I have to hit you. I have to criticize you. It\u2019s the only way I can get reelected. It\u2019s not gonna be bad. We\u2019ll work together after the election, but I gotta say these things.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Well, hello?<\/p>\n<p>This is one of the reasons people hate politics.<\/p>\n<p>&#8216;Cause Obama was basically telling them, &#8220;Look, guys, I have to lie. My base is so stupid they hate your guts, and I gotta make \u2019em think that I do, too. But hang with me. How about that?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH:  Okay, so Mr. Gogel of the private equity firm Clayton, Dubilier &amp; Rice, says that when Obama\u2019s minions come to raise money they wink and they say, &#8220;Look, we don\u2019t really hate you. We just have to say we do.  We\u2019ve gotta do these things to get elected.  We have to criticize what you do.  After we get elected, it\u2019s all gonna be fine.&#8221;  So essentially Obama\u2019s minions say to the private equity guys, &#8220;My base is so stupid, they hate your guts, and I\u2019ve gotta make \u2019em think I hate your guts too in order to get elected. But after I get elected, it\u2019s gonna be cool.&#8221;  He said the same thing to Dmitry Medvedev.  &#8220;Look, tell Vladimir after the election I\u2019ll have a lot more flexibility on getting rid of nukes.&#8221;  Thing is, he was not lying to Medvedev.  He was lying to the fat cats.  He is lying to the private equity guys. <\/p>\n<p>Every syllable he says is the truth when he talks about hating people who pursue profit, because this guy is running against capitalism, in the midst of an economic recession.  How bizarre is this?  To run against capitalism when your country is in the middle of a recession, when you\u2019re trying to get the economy to expand, and when you say you\u2019re trying to get businesses to hire.  It is perverse.  It\u2019s perverse unless you don\u2019t want the economy to expand, unless you want to prolong the misery in order to pass more safety net welfare funding.  We all know Obama wants to expand the government.  The fact that 88 million Americans are not working, but that they are eating, Obama loves, because he\u2019s the one getting credit for feeding them, in his mind.  And not only are they eating, they\u2019ve got their televisions and they\u2019ve got their cell phones, and they\u2019ve got cable.  And a number of these 88 million who aren\u2019t working but have food, have cable, have cell phones, and have flat screens, may be saying, &#8220;What more do I need?&#8221;  <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>RUSH: Last night, PBS, Charlie Rose had as his guest a guy named Donald Gogel, president, chief executive officer at private equity firm Clayton, Dubilier &amp; Rice. Charlie Rose said to Donald Gogel, &#8220;You were a strong supporter of the president in 2008. 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