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RUSH: Have you seen some of the notebook entries? Not the signs on the protest march. Some of these so-called college students at Occupy Wall Street <\/a>and other places around the country are writing their sad-sack stories on notebook paper, like this, and then they\u2019re holding it up and people are taking pictures of it. They\u2019re lamenting the worthlessness of their education, there\u2019s no future, they\u2019ve invested all this time and money in their student loans and there\u2019s no jobs (crying) basically. You\u2019ve seen those. This is an example. But I think, ladies and gentlemen, I have detected here what\u2019s really going on with all this and how these sad-sack students are just a bunch of dupes and in fact useful idiots. <\/line><\/p>\n

Now, I\u2019m gonna have trouble reading this. This is a camera photo of a protester\u2019s scribbling in a loose-leaf notebook here. “I graduate college in seven months with a useless degree in Classical Studies. I have worked very hard and am on track to graduate with Latin. I am in a Greek organization with many volunteer hours under my belt. My job prospects, zero.” So basically here\u2019s a person who\u2019s taken Latin and is about to have a degree in Classical Studies and doesn\u2019t have the slightest idea, her job prospects are zilch and she\u2019s ticked off. <\/p>\n

Now, do you think somebody going to college, borrowing whatever it is in this case, $20,000 a year to get a degree in Classical Studies ought to be told by somebody at a school that it\u2019s a worthless degree? (interruption) Well, I don\u2019t know what the minor was. It might be Latin. It\u2019s a lousy picture; I can\u2019t read the woman\u2019s printing or handwriting. But at any rate, why is it that no one in her life told her that getting a degree in Classical Studies would not lead to employment? In fact, how many college students do you think believe that just getting a degree equals a high-paying job? Probably a lot of them. Not that you can blame \u2019em. That\u2019s what they\u2019ve been sold on. That\u2019s what they\u2019ve been told. Ergo, that\u2019s what they expect. A college degree equals success, riches, whatever. Not work. This is key, now. <\/p>\n

Snerdley\u2019s in there laughing at me, but stick with me on this. Get the degree. The degree and the diploma are all you need. That\u2019s the guarantee. So this student says she wants the degree — I\u2019m assuming it\u2019s a she. There\u2019s no picture of the student, so I don\u2019t know. But this person goes in there, wants to get a degree in Classical Studies. Now, I think the colleges ought to be held accountable here. You show up, you want a degree in Classical Studies, you need to be told what that really means. “Well, how do you want to use your degree in Classical Studies? Do you even know what it is?” “Well, yes, I want study the classics so that I can be an expert in the classics, so that I can then study them further, like, and, you know, help others.” “Really? Okay, how much money do you expect to make doing this?” “Well, as a college graduate with a Classical Studies degree, maybe a Latin minor, $200,000 a year, enough to pay off my student loans in the first four years and then after that who knows.” <\/p>\n

“Can you tell me where do you go to apply for a job with a Classical Studies degree?” “Well, anybody who\u2019s interested in studying classically, I would think would be interested in my services because I\u2019m going to be an expert.” At that point somebody at the university ought to say, “Babe, you are wasting your time in a nothing major. We are stealing your money. You\u2019re gonna be qualified for jack excrement when you get outta here.” But they don\u2019t. Now, this is part of the trick, this is the ruse, and it\u2019s actually clever. Snerdley\u2019s in there laughing uncontrollably. I know I\u2019m a naturally funny guy, but follow me on this. <\/p>\n

So here you have Miss Brain-dead freshly out of college with her Classical Studies degree who thinks that she wants to go classically study and that people also want to study classics studiously and classically, and she\u2019s going to be very hirable, very marketable and so forth. Gets out in the real world and finds her only chance is Occupy Wall Street and to write a note for a TV camera about how worthless her degree is. Well, that\u2019s what she does here. Her job prospects, zero. Yeah, they are, and they have been since you declared that major, and somebody shoulda told you that from the moment you declared the major in Classical Studies. <\/p>\n

Tell me, any of you at random listening all across the fruited plain, what the hell is Classical Studies? What classics are studied? Or, is it learning how to study in a classical way? Or is it learning how to study in a classy as opposed to unclassy way? And what about unClassical Studies? Why does nobody care about the unclassics? What are the classics? And how are the classics studied? Oh, cause you\u2019re gonna become an expert in Dickens? You\u2019re assuming it\u2019s literature. See, you\u2019re assuming we\u2019re talking classical literature here. What if it\u2019s classical women\u2019s studies? What if it\u2019s classical feminism? Who the hell knows what it is? One thing I do know is that she, the brain-dead student, doesn\u2019t know what it is, after she\u2019s got a major in it. Because all she knows to do with it is go down to Occupy Wall Street and complain and write a note for the cameras. <\/p>\n

<\/a>As I say, this is deviously clever. Socialists, liberals work under cover for decades taking over higher education, and then they dilute it and they make higher education anything but higher. There\u2019s really nothing special about it unless you go specific into the law or medicine where you really have to know it. But most of these majors are useless, such as black women studies, women\u2019s studies, whatever studies. Postmodernist theory in the new modernist world, whatever they get a degree in. <\/p>\n

The socialists that run universities dilute the education, they offer useless majors, and then they lie about the quality of these useless majors. They lie about the happiness and the jobs and the money that awaits you after you get the degree in something like Classical Studies. Then — and this is where the payoff is — after a generation or two of such students, after a generation or two of such worthless degrees, after generation or two of deceived students with worthless degrees out in the world finding themselves very unhappy, very unemployable, and without money to do all the fun things they want, what do they then demand? <\/p>\n

Socialism as a remedy. They demand that everybody else take care of them — and, my friends, this is not an accident. I think this is part of a strategy that the left has had, part of many strategies they have used in taking over the education system. We know they propagandize; we know they indoctrinate; we know they dumb down. They also teach the preference of communism; the moral superiority of liberalism, socialism, communism. They teach that capitalism is immoral and unjust. They promote all of this worthless education, and then these bright-eyed, bushy-tailed know-nothings get out of school with what they think is their ticket — and it\u2019s a ticket to ride nowhere.<\/p>\n

What do they then demand? That everybody else take care of them. Ergo you get Occupy Wall Street. Ergo you get young generations of students asking for government control of everything because it was so unfair. They did everything their parents told them. They did everything told them to do. They went to school, they got a degree, and these evil businesses won\u2019t hire \u2019em! These dirty, rotten CEOs are stealing all the money and they\u2019re giving it to themself in bonuses and salary but they won\u2019t give it to the college graduates who rightfully deserve it who\u2019ve worked hard and have applied themselves. They got great degrees like classical (raspberry) studies!<\/p>\n

They\u2019re un-hireable, unemployable, and that\u2019s just unfair and unjust — and ergo, here comes the clamor and the clarion call for socialism, for government to fix it. I would love to steal this technique. I\u2019d love to take over education and steal this technique and put our values in here and reverse some of this stuff, \u2019cause this is part and parcel of what is happening in higher education today. For all of you young skulls full of mush out there — and I realize that many of your parents are quite angry with me over the past ten days because of this thought that I have been trying to encourage you to punt college, and forget it. You don\u2019t need it.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s not what I said. I said, “Be very careful. If you go to college, do not do classical studies. (interruption) What the hell is it anyway? (interruption) Somebody can…? (interruption) You sent something down to me? (interruption) Well, good. Department of Classical Studies, University of Pennsylvania? You sent that to me? (interruption) You sent it to me in an e-mail? Okay, so I won\u2019t be able to get to it \u2019til I go to commercial break. So it\u2019s worthless to me right now. You can tell me…? (interruption) I expect it to be worthless after I read it and it\u2019s worthless, I can\u2019t go through it because I\u2019m in the middle of a segment. Anyway, H.R. found the Classical Studies department at the University of Pennsylvania. He sent to me what it is. I can\u2019t wait to find out exactly how right I am about this.<\/p>\n

In fact let\u2019s take a break. I\u2019ll take a break, an EIB obscene profit time-out (and I did not need a college degree to know how this works).<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: I got an e-mail from a friend of mine who\u2019s a renowned newspaper columnist whose name it\u2019s probably best I don\u2019t mention (for her sake). She says, “Rush, I have a degree in Classical Studies. It\u2019s Greek and Latin. I worked my way through college. I only borrowed a thousand dollars to do it. I can\u2019t agree with you that the degree is worthless. In a world with so many less-than-literate people Classics majors have an edge.” I can understand that. But where? I really question some of these people graduating with a major in Classical Studies if they really are learning anything. We know that people graduate high school unable to read the diploma. You all remember the story of Dexter Manley? Does the name Dexter Manley ring a bell?<\/p>\n

Dexter Manley was a great football player, primary for the Washington Redskins, and I think his university was Oklahoma City State. I know he\u2019s an athlete. But he discovered well into his professional career he could not read. He graduated from a Big 8 university school, a Big 8 Conference school. Now, I know it\u2019s athletes and stuff. But this woman — or this person — who wrote the note complaining about zero job opportunity, does not appear to be representative of somebody who\u2019s seven months away from a degree in Classical Studies. Classical Studies. Try this. Did a lot of research during the break. Karl Marx was a classical studies scholar. Karl Marx, philosopher, political thinker, studied Latin and Greek — as did Churchill, I found out.<\/line><\/p>\n

Marx received a Ph.D. for a dissertation on ancient Greek philosophy entitled The Difference between the Democratean and Epicurean Philosophy of Nature. Now, you\u2019ll note nobody hired Marx, so what he had to do was figure out a way to destroy humanity on his own — and he was able to do it, but nobody hired him. His classical background is reflected in his philosophies. Indeed the term “proletariat,” he coined from the Latin word referring to the lowest class of citizen. So Karl Marx was a classical scholar, ancient philosophy and literature. Here\u2019s what the University of Pennsylvania says about their department: “Welcome to the Department of Classical Studies at the University of Pennsylvania.<\/p>\n

“For over two centuries Penn has offered a variety of undergraduate and graduate programs representing all aspects of the broad field of Classical Studies, from languages and literature to history, archaeology and cultural studies. The Department encourages interdisciplinary and comparative approaches to teaching and research and maintains productive ties with a variety of programs, including Religious Studies, English, Comparative Literature, Medieval Studies, Philosophy, Linguistics, Italian Studies, [Pasta], History of Art, and the Penn Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology.” Now, I don\u2019t know about you, does not make me want to sign up for a major in this.<\/p>\n

This sounds like my all-time favorite comedian Irwin Corey answering the question, “Why do men wear shoes?” which he said was a two-part question. Johnny Carson asked him, “Why do men wear shoes?” and Professor Cory said, “Well, a brilliant, brilliant question, Sir Carson! It\u2019s a brilliant, two-part question. The first part of the question is the word ‘why.\u2019 Why what? Why now? Why then? Why anything? Why the unanswerable quest for knowledge and thirst for knowledge, and we should all ask ‘Why?\u2019 every day, every night, every morning, every day — and with women, we do: ‘Why?\u2019 Do men wear shoes? Yes.” (laughing)<\/p>\n

That\u2019s what I was reading when I read the University of Pennsylvania description of Classical Studies. Anyway, it still doesn\u2019t change my theory of what\u2019s going on here. You steer people to useless degrees. They come out, don\u2019t know how to do \u2019em, use \u2019em; don\u2019t even know what they\u2019re qualified to do, don\u2019t even know where to go — and when it doesn\u2019t work out then you demand the government take care of it, demand socialism or a job retraining center or some such thing. (interruption) What\u2019s the question, Snerdley? Program observer has a question. (sigh) Yes. Yes, that\u2019s very true. Useless people would be useless regardless their degree. No question about it. Useless people…<\/p>\n

There\u2019s no degree that\u2019s gonna change a useless person into a useful person. No college degree is gonna turn anybody into a useful person. In fact, one of the big problems, I think, that a lot of people have with a college degree is that they expect it is the ticket. Not the work. That it is the ticket. Victor Davis Hanson, by the way, he\u2019s another classicist. He teaches classical studies. He is an expert on ancient Greek history, by the way. But he\u2019s a farmer. Victor Davis Hanson is a farmer, and he is a writer, columnist and so forth. He\u2019s at the Hoover Institute, the campus at Stanford; writes for National Review Online and other things and that\u2019s where he derives his income. He doesn\u2019t go to the Classical Studies office.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: I just realized here we better get some phone calls mixed into this show or there\u2019s gonna be a balance problem. My newspaper columnist friend has assured me it\u2019s okay to use her name, so it would be Debra Saunders at the San Francisco Chronicle. I met Debra for the first time in Sacramento back in the 1980s. Yeah. I hear from her mostly when I have made a grammatical error and she corrects me. (interruption) Walter Isaacson, you know, I bet people don\u2019t know this. Well, no, people know it because it got reported. But when Walter Isaacson ran CNN they wanted me to do a Sunday morning show on CNN and a Sunday morning football show, the two would go back-to-back. It caused all kinds of internal consternation at CNN when employees there found out it was in the works.<\/p>\n

And when Roger Ailes heard about it he said, “It\u2019s the first time I\u2019ve ever heard of a CEO needing a security detail in his own building,” speaking of Walter Isaacson. Ailes gave that line to Maureen Dowd at the New York Times. Walter is now at the Aspen Institute, and I\u2019ve stayed in touch with him. Debra at the Chronicle, she\u2019s not mainstream media, not in the sense that we use the term mainstream media. It\u2019s a mainstream publication and she ranks high there, but her head\u2019s still screwed on straight. And nobody knows grammar like she does. I hear about it, you know, when I screw up. <\/p>\n

Okay, let\u2019s go to the phones. We\u2019re gonna start in Salt Lake City. David, great to have you on the program, sir, hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Mega dittos here from Salt Lake, Rush. Good to talk to you.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you very much, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I read the best thing yesterday and it just had to make me chuckle. Our friends down at the occupy movement are trademarking the name Occupy Wall Street.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah, I saw that myself.<\/p>\n

CALLER: So you\u2019re telling me the anti-capitalists are capitalizing on being anti-capitalist?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Exactly right, and they\u2019re also trying to figure out a way to keep the homeless from coming in and stealing their food.<\/p>\n

CALLER: It\u2019s so great. <\/p>\n

RUSH: And we\u2019ve also learned that the homeless are being directed to Occupy Wall Street by the cops. The New York Police Department\u2019s telling the homeless where Occupy Wall Street is and to go down there, they got booze and food. It\u2019s the homeless person\u2019s delight, and the homeless are showing up and so the cooks at Occupy Wall Street say, “To hell with it.”<\/p>\n

CALLER: What we need to do is these classical study people, we need to send them to me, and I will pay them how to study the classified ads to get a job after college.<\/p>\n

RUSH: (laughing) Well, you know, it\u2019s obvious as I look into this Classical Studies business it is obvious at one time it was something of great esteme, something of tremendous import and value. I have to think like everything else in higher education today that it\u2019s been dumbed down. In fact, about Victor Davis Hanson, he actually created the classics program at California State University Fresno in 1984, and he was a professor there until recently. He created it because of the deterioration in the whole field because of how it\u2019s lost whatever specialness that it once had. But I think there\u2019s all kinds of theories to explain what\u2019s going on in higher education. For example, it\u2019s not new that college graduates don\u2019t know anything. That\u2019s not really that new. <\/p>\n

Now, I think it is relatively new, two generations, that worthless degrees are being constructed and taught and awarded. But generally what\u2019s happened is that American employers have taken these ill-educated graduates and they\u2019ve turned \u2019em into productive employees after a lot of investment. But in this economy, in the Obama economy, employers don\u2019t have the money, they don\u2019t have the wherewithal, and they don\u2019t have the confidence or the money or the time or the patience to go out and hire uneducated people and turn \u2019em into something. Because they can\u2019t get a handle on what faces them next year with Obamacare, what other regulations might be awaiting them. <\/p>\n

So this woman, or person, whoever it is, I\u2019m assuming it\u2019s a woman that wrote this note, Occupy Wall Street, lamenting the fact she\u2019s gonna have zero job opportunities with her Classical Studies degree, the villain is Obama. There will be a time where the economy will be able to absorb these people again, but it\u2019s down the road a bit. ‘Cause after you get a degree in Classical Studies, what do you need? You need Reality Studies. And Reality Studies is what you get when you get out of college and you start going to work and you learn what you don\u2019t know. And if you don\u2019t have the ability to admit that you don\u2019t know anything, then Reality Studies is gonna be a cold slap upside the head, and it isn\u2019t gonna be pleasant.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Julie in Prescott, Arizona, I\u2019m glad you waited. Great to have you here.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Thanks, Rush. Mega dittos. I\u2019ve been listening to you since I graduated college in 1989, and I\u2019m really excited to talk to you.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you very much.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah. The reason I\u2019m calling is I heard you talking about classical education, and I know you\u2019re talking at the university level, but I have three kids that I pulled out of what were considered top-notch, blue ribbon public schools —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah?<\/p>\n

CALLER: — in beautiful carmel, California. We moved because of schools actually to find a better education for our kids, and they are in a classical Christian school. I can\u2019t even tell you what this school is doing for these kids. Yes, they\u2019re learning Latin — which I know, it\u2019s a dead language (giggles), but –<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, no, no. It\u2019s all about culture.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, they\u2019re learning to think, Rush.<\/p>\n

RUSH: That is a key!<\/p>\n

CALLER: They are learning to become critical thinkers.<\/p>\n

RUSH: That is a key, and the left doesn\u2019t want anybody critically thinking about anything. They want \u2019em blindly accepting.<\/p>\n

CALLER: And that\u2019s what we left. We left just indoctrination. I couldn\u2019t be more proud that my kids are debating and at home we get into conversations and they\u2019re learning to outdebate their mom and dad at this school, but I couldn\u2019t be more proud.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, I\u2019ll tell you what: You\u2019re probably as responsible for that as the school they\u2019re attending. A lot parents, particularly today totally abandon any responsibility. “Ah, I have school. That\u2019s school\u2019s job to teach my kid. It\u2019s the school\u2019s job to do all that. It\u2019s too hard for me to do it.” I think it\u2019s a lost notion that parents are the single most formative people in children\u2019s lives, for good or bad; and it\u2019s very rare that a school is going to change that. Anyway, I\u2019m glad you called Julie. I appreciate it. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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