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RUSH: This is Barack Obama. This was late Monday afternoon in Santiago, Chile.<\/p>\n

OBAMA: It is US policy that Khadafy needs to go, and we\u2019ve got a wide range of tools in addition to our military efforts to support that policy.<\/p>\n

RUSH: It\u2019s US policy Khadafy has to go. Monday afternoon, late yesterday afternoon in San Salvador, El Salvador, President Obama and the president there held a joint press conference. Unidentified reporter: “President Obama, you mentioned a few minutes ago how this mission in Libya was narrow in scope, limited in duration, but potentially it seems quite open-ended in the sense that as long as Khadafy remains in power, civilians presumably will need protection from him. My question to you is what is your exit strategy for US military involvement if Khadafy does not succumb to the international pressures to leave? Are you saying essentially the US will hang in there militarily in Libya if Khadafy hangs in there?”<\/p>\n

OBAMA: As long as Khadafy remains in power, unless he changes his approach and provides the Libyan people an opportunity to express themselves freely and there are significant reforms in the Libyan government —<\/p>\n

RUSH: What?<\/p>\n

OBAMA: — unless he is willing to step down.<\/p>\n

RUSH: What?<\/p>\n

OBAMA: — that there\u2019s still gonna be potential threats towards the Libyan people.<\/p>\n

RUSH: What? Does anybody understand? I know when I hear Obama, according to the media, I need to question my own intellect. I need to question my own ability to understand here. He\u2019s so far ahead of us, you know. He\u2019s so much brighter, the nuance. I mean I think I can read the stitches on a fastball. This guy can stop the fastball. We just don\u2019t have the ability to keep up. It sounds to me like he\u2019s saying Khadafy can stay. On Monday he needs to go, but he can stay if he doesn\u2019t go. Yeah, as long as he remains in power, unless he changes his approach and provides the Libyan people an opportunity to shout at him and whatever else they want to do, if he\u2019s willing to step down, fine, he can stay. He\u2019s gotta go but he can stay. This is our policy. You got Gates, the secretary of defense, saying, (paraphrasing) “We\u2019ve never done this before. We have never had foreign policy on the fly.” Grab audio sound bite number 11, Ed. This is our defense secretary in Moscow yesterday, Robert Gates, speaking to reporters. He had this to say about Libya.<\/p>\n

GATES: This command and control business is complicated, and we haven\u2019t done something like this kind of on the fly before. And so it\u2019s not surprising to me that it would take a few days to get it all sorted out.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, is that not reassuring? Here we are in the old Soviet Union, in Russia, and the KGB reporters are asking what\u2019s going on. (imitating Gates) “We don\u2019t really know. We\u2019ve really never done anything on the fly like this before. Gonna take a few days to get it all sorted out.” Obama says we\u2019re gonna be gone a few days. Wolf Blitzer said, (paraphrasing) “No, he\u2019s just getting bad advice. We\u2019re gonna be there longer than a few days.” Obama, (paraphrasing) “He\u2019s gotta go. No, he can stay if he wants, as long as he let\u2019s people yell at him.” (interruption) A question, Mr. Snerdley? That\u2019s a good question. You\u2019ve asked the right person. Snerdley said all of his life he has heard, when it comes to military action that — I mean there\u2019s five rings in the Pentagon. There are a lot of people in there, and I asked Secretary Rumsfeld, is there one person, I mean you were the secretary of defense, is there one person who knows everything going on in that building? He said no, it\u2019s not possible. Now, stop and think about that. Not one person knows everything going on. <\/p>\n

By the way, this is not related to classified action or top secret stuff. I mean that, of course, is a factor. But you would think that there would be somebody who knows everything going on. I once asked a former DCI, Director of Central Intelligence, “Did you know everything going on there?” “No. No.” Not one person in there who knows. It\u2019s not that they\u2019re all rogues. It\u2019s just massive. It is complex. It\u2019s like asking, “Is there one person who knows what\u2019s going on the Department of Health and Human Services? Is there one person who\u2019s gonna know everything going on in our health care?” No. There isn\u2019t. And yet the citizens assume that there is this all-knowing, all-present entity somewhere who knows everything the government\u2019s doing. So the question is, Snerdley says, “I\u2019ve been told that we in the Pentagon have contingency plans on virtually every situation that might erupt around the world.” And when Snerdley asked me that question, I said, “Well, I have thought that, too.” Okay, you\u2019ve got Moammar Khadafy in Libya. He\u2019s in there, what, how long has he been a colonel? Okay, 40 something years the guy has not had a promotion. That\u2019s gotta tell you something. And he\u2019s in charge of promotions. Forty-seven years. <\/p>\n

We keep hearing about the Libyan desk at the State Department or the Soviet desk or whatever. You would think that there would be contingency plans, if this happens here, what does this mean for events in Libya, what will we do to counter if this happens, you know, what are the ABCs here. And our defense secretary is saying, “We\u2019ve never kinda done this on the fly before.” It\u2019s stronger than an implication. We\u2019re not doing anything we had planned here. In other words, all the contingencies that we\u2019ve ever had, we\u2019re doing something we\u2019ve never contemplated. This isn\u2019t in our plan book so it is on the fly. Now, remember yesterday, David “Rodham” Gergen at CNN wrote that he was puzzled that it was women in the regime who were determining our military action, and he was surprised by that because he had bought into this notion that if women had more positions of power that there would be a less contentious world, it would be a more peaceful place. Which, frankly, I\u2019ve never understood that, just by virtue of real-world experience. That\u2019s an offshoot of all these stereotypes that women are soft, fragile, nurturing, understanding, relationship builders and all this, watchers of chick flicks. It\u2019s not the real world. Come on, now. Look, does that stereotype even survive when we were contemplating Hillary Clinton being president? <\/p>\n

So anyway, there has been blowback, if you will, from this whole notion that the women are running the show. People don\u2019t like that aspect of it. It\u2019s in TIME Magazine: “A Woman Is Running the U.S. Air War Over Libya.” TIME Magazine picks up this obsession with gender in our Libyan policy. And then the Atlantic, somebody here named Garance Franke-Ruta: “On the Idiocy of Framing the Libya Intervention as a Battle of the Sexes.” This author is really miffed at the idea that only the women of Obamaville have any guts. It\u2019s funny and it\u2019s harrowing to read this stuff about what\u2019s going on in this administration and how it\u2019s happening. The defense secretary, “We\u2019ve really never done this,” says it to the Russians. “We\u2019ll get it figured out in a few days here. We\u2019re doing this on the fly. We\u2019ve never really done this before.” That\u2019s because we\u2019ve never had a commander-in-chief like Obama before. <\/p>\n

I wonder should his nickname be Obamer or Oscrama? It depends on the day, seems to be a little bit of both, depending on what day it is. One thing is true. This is probably more salient than anything. Gates out there saying, “Well, we\u2019ve never done anything like this before, doing this on the fly, not surprising to me, take a few days to get it all sorted out.” You know what that means? That means the Pentagon has never had a contingency plan for a president like Obama. The answer to your question, Snerdley, the State Department, Pentagon, the one thing they\u2019ve never planned on is a president like Obama. That\u2019s the scary thing.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Mrs. Clinton last Thursday in Tunis, Tunisia, had at a town hall meeting (yep, we did a town hall meeting in Tunisia) and she said this about Colonel Moammar Khadafy…<\/p>\n

HILLARY: If you don\u2019t try to take him out — if you don\u2019t support the opposition and he stays in power — we cannot predict what he will do.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Whoa! We don\u2019t have to remove Khadafy. “If you don\u2019t try to take him out — if you don\u2019t support the opposition and he stays in power — we cannot predict what he will do.” Oh, I guess we will have to take him out. Then she was a little bit more relaxed about it last night on Nightline during a discussion about the attacks on Libya. She got the question (I think it was from Diane Sawyer): “Khadafy, will this intervention be a success if he\u2019s still in power?”<\/p>\n

HILLARY: The United Nations Security Council resolution was very broad but explicit about what was legally authorized by the international community, and we are a hundred percent committed to enforcing it and helping others enforce it. There\u2019s nothing in there about getting rid of anybody.<\/p>\n

RUSH: What has happened? What in the world changed? <\/p>\n

“He\u2019s gotta go!”<\/p>\n

“No, he doesn\u2019t have to go!”<\/p>\n

“Well, if he doesn\u2019t go, and he doesn\u2019t let people yell at him, well, it\u2019s not gonna be fun — and he\u2019s gotta go.” <\/p>\n

“No, he doesn\u2019t have to go!”<\/p>\n

What in the world changed? Did somebody say, “Look, you can\u2019t sit here and say we\u2019re gonna target a world leader and get rid of him”? This is amateur hour. There\u2019s even a story here in Politico: “In Search of the Obama Doctrine.” Now, why are they searching for one? ‘Cause they\u2019re desperately trying to craft it! There isn\u2019t an Obama doctrine. They want to make it out like there is one going on there, and it\u2019s so deep that we can\u2019t see it. It\u2019s so special, so unique — it is so above all of us — that we can\u2019t see it. In fact, the story says, “It\u2019s difficult to succinctly describe the intellectual framework for Obama\u2019s approach.” It\u2019s so nuanced. It\u2019s another way of saying… Well, this is just lethargy. It is journalistic malpractice. This is pathetic and embarrassing. <\/p>\n

“At a briefing for reporters last Saturday as U.S. Tomahawks missiles slammed into the Libyan coast, a top aide to President Barack Obama was asked to define the ‘Obama doctrine\u2019 to explain why the United States was suddenly pursuing a third conflict in a Muslim nation. Ben Rhodes, a deputy national security adviser and one of Obama\u2019s most highly regarded speechwriters, ticked off the factors that led his reluctant commander-in-chief to act: Muammar Qadhafi\u2019s threat of a massacre against his own people, support from an international coalition and ‘the provision of humanitarian assistance\u2019 to rebels.” <\/p>\n

Oh, good, it\u2019s the old human rights of Jimmy Carter resurfacing here. Meals on Wheels! “That difficulty in succinctly describing the intellectual framework for Obama&rsquo;s approach to U.S. foreign policy and national security issues has long bedeviled anyone trying to impute a concrete agenda from Obama…” [repeats] “That difficulty in succinctly describing the intellectual framework for Obama…” How about there isn\u2019t one? How about there isn\u2019t “an intellectual framework”? We got the defense secretary saying, “It\u2019s on the fly. We\u2019ve never done this before,” and we have to sit here and be so insulted by the media, constantly telling us that we\u2019re too stupid to understand? <\/p>\n

We\u2019re just a bunch of hayseeds. Even if we were smarter, we still don\u2019t have the ability to comprehend “the intellectual framework” in Obama\u2019s approach. “Republicans, especially the neo-conservatives who gave enthusiastic support for the U.S. invasion of Iraq, have sought to paint Obama\u2019s nuanced approach as fundamentally weak.” Uh, this is gobbledygook. What we have here are people who understand that we have an embarrassment as president of the United States (an embarrassment that they promoted and foisted upon us) and now they have to engage in a profound cover-up. <\/p>\n

So the way this is all going and the whole purpose of this “In Search of the Obama Doctrine”? At the end of the day the purpose here is to be able to say that Obama wins, regardless what happens. He can claim success or deny responsibility. That\u2019s why the Obama doctrine is open-ended, and that\u2019s why the difficulty — the “difficulty in succinctly describing the intellectual framework for Obama\u2019s approach.” I have seldom encountered… We\u2019ve all seen media bias and we\u2019ve all seen media cheerleading. I have seldom seen the media so eager to prostate itself — prostrate itself! (laughing) — in order to portray somebody in a light that they don\u2019t deserve. This is unprecedented, I think.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: You know what\u2019s amazing about this Politico story? Who do they go to to find out what the Obama doctrine is? They went right to a speechwriter. They went right to a speechwriter, Ben Rhodes, a deputy national security advisor, one of Obama\u2019s most highly regarded speechwriters. They side-stepped the teleprompter. No, they didn\u2019t go to the teleprompter. They went to the guy who puts it in the teleprompter. They did not go to Obama. “That difficulty in succinctly describing the intellectual framework for Obama&rsquo;s approach to U.S. foreign policy and national security issues has long bedeviled anyone trying to impute a concrete agenda from Obama&rsquo;s soaring pronouncements about supporting democracy and fostering international human rights.” Soaring pronouncements. Soaring, intellectual. He\u2019s an empty suit. He doesn\u2019t really care. That\u2019s the big thing. They have to present the impression that he cares. Other people are coming up with the ideas, the implementations, the policies. He doesn\u2019t care. <\/p>\n

By the way, he did cancel the trip to the Mayan ruins, part of the spring break vacation. Moochelle and the girls are gonna go and visit the Mayan ruins. Obama heading back to Washington to deal with the Libya thing that they\u2019ve all tried to make out to be not too big a deal. But what\u2019s changed here? Khadafy\u2019s gotta go, he\u2019s gotta go. No, he can stay. Well, he\u2019s gottaa go. No, he can stay. As long as he let\u2019s people yell at him, he can stay. Why the flip-flop? Maybe it\u2019s one of two things. Maybe there\u2019s internal polling data. Maybe there\u2019s Libyan polling data. Maybe a majority of Libyan citizens actually favor Khadafy over the rebels. Maybe. I mean Al Jazeera\u2019s got a poll that 65% of the Arab world likes what we\u2019re doing outside of Libya. Al Jazeera: 62% of the street, the Arab street, supports what we\u2019re doing, but what are we doing? It\u2019s too nuanced and we don\u2019t have the brains to figure it out. He can stay, he doesn\u2019t have to go, or he\u2019s gotta go? I want to take you back to a moment of deep contemplation on this program. March 17th, six days ago, I, your host, raised a possibility.<\/p>\n

RUSH ARCHIVE: In Libya, it\u2019s a tough call, which is why Obama\u2019s by no means qualified. In Libya the opposition is probably largely influenced by Al-Qaeda.<\/p>\n

RUSH: The rebels, remember? We went through this. It\u2019s a tough call. What do you do? The popular consensus is we got this colonel and he\u2019s wiping out his own people. They\u2019re starting to talk about it as a genocide now, by the way, on the left. So, okay, he\u2019s gotta go. But then, who are these rebels? Some of them, I speculated, might be Al-Qaeda. Others might be agents from Iran. But I hold here in my formerly nicotine-stained fingers a Reuters story: “Al Qaida Commander Backs Libyan Rebels in Message — Abu Yahya al-Libi,” not to be confused with Scooter al-Libby, “urges anti-Gaddafi forces not to retreat; reports of mutiny among Gaddafi forces slowing attack on rebel-held Misurata. A senior member of al Qaida urged Libyan rebels to continue their fight against Muammar Gaddafi and warned of the consequences of defeat, in a videotaped message posted on Jihadi websites, the Qatar-based Gulf News reported on Sunday. The message from Libya native, Abu Yahya al-Libi, marked the first time a top ranked al Qaida commander had commented on the uprising in Libya. Gaddafi has repeatedly blamed al Qaida for inciting the unrest against him.” He\u2019s been saying so.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT <\/p>\n

RUSH: From Der Spiegel, German magazine: “‘Gadhafi Is Facing a Coalition of the Unwilling.'” (chuckles) The international press writing: “‘Gadhafi Is Facing a Coalition of the Unwilling.'” Nobody knows who\u2019s running it. Folks, you know (sigh), none of this makes me happy. None of it makes me comfortable. Nobody knows what\u2019s going on. This is totally “on the fly,” and you know what? It\u2019s like I said 25 or 30 minutes ago: Whatever happens in Libya — whatever happens — Obama\u2019s gonna be able to claim success or deny responsibility. That\u2019s why they\u2019re all over the board here. <\/p>\n

“Oh, yeah, he can stay.” <\/p>\n

“No, he doesn\u2019t have to stay.” <\/p>\n

“He can go, doesn\u2019t have to.”<\/p>\n

“He\u2019s gotta go!”<\/p>\n

“No he can stay!” <\/p>\n

“Al-Qaeda in there? Yeah, changes it a little bit. We don\u2019t know. We\u2019ll have to wait and see.” <\/p>\n

Washington Post: “Allied Strikes Pummel Libya\u2019s Air Force but Do Not Stop Attacks on Civilians.” We\u2019re bombing again from 15,000 feet; it\u2019s not stopping the killing. People in the Balkans already know this. Khadafy\u2019s actually advancing. Khadafy\u2019s gaining ground. Genocide happened underneath our no-fly zone in Bosnia. This is all through the rubric, through the prism of 2012.<\/p>\n

END TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

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