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RUSH: Michael in St. Louis. Welcome to the EIB Network. Hello, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Rush, it is truly an honor to talk to you.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you. Thank you very much, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Rush, I\u2019m gonna talk to you about something completely different than what you\u2019ve been talking about today.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Sure.<\/p>\n

CALLER: But it\u2019s still along the same lines. I constantly see how what I feel like this administration is doing to tear this country apart. And, you know, you talked last week, you didn\u2019t know whether to call President Obama President Obomber. I\u2019d call it the Socialist Republic of Obummer, because I work in an industry, the mortgage industry, and it\u2019s the only industry that I know of where we are now being told by the federal government how much we can be paid, when and how we can and cannot be paid; and it\u2019s all being handed down through the Obama administration, through the Federal Reserve Board. We had a conference call about two weeks ago from the Federal Reserve Board where not one single member of the Federal Reserve Board was on the call. Instead, they hired two lawyers to kind of read the talking points and tell us, “Well, here\u2019s what you can do. You can do this, but it may or may not be legal, and it\u2019s up to you to decide,” and…<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay, I gotta stop you. Hold it. You gotta hold on through the break \u2019cause when you talk about being paid, are you talking about your salary or the loan circumstances that you can engage? <\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<\/p>\n RUSH: Now back to Michael in St. Louis. So your point is that you\u2019re in the mortgage business, and they\u2019re telling you what you can “make.” What do you mean by what you can make?<\/p>\n<\/p>\n CALLER: Well, what they\u2019re doing is they\u2019re trying to pass a law that is going to tell the mortgage business how they can pay the loan officers. The mortgage brokers, mortgage bankers, it doesn\u2019t matter, they\u2019re telling —<\/p>\n<\/p>\n RUSH: You\u2019re talking about salary?<\/p>\n<\/p>\n CALLER: Right.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n RUSH: Okay.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n CALLER: Salaries and commissions.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n RUSH: Yeah, okay.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n CALLER: Basically, he\u2019s trying to do to the mortgage industry what he is in the process of doing to the health care industry, the insurance industry. And what he\u2019s doing is he\u2019s making it — the government is making it — harder for the mortgage industry to service the consumer, and this all was created under the guise of “we\u2019re gonna protect the consumer,” but the real truth is it\u2019s gonna hurt the consumer \u2019cause it\u2019s gonna make it harder for first-time homebuyers and low- and moderate-income people to get a mortgage, to refinance a mortgage, or to buy a home.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Why?<\/p>\n

CALLER: It\u2019s gonna make it more expensive.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Why? What does it matter? Just as a simple point: What does it matter how much money you make a year as to whether or not somebody gets a mortgage?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, it\u2019s based on the loan amount. It\u2019s based on the loan. They\u2019re saying that we cannot be paid based on the terms of the loan, but that\u2019s how the mortgage industry has been since its inception. So now we\u2019re saying, “Okay, tell us how we can pay ourselves.” For instance, a mortgage broker can\u2019t sell his business because you sell a business based on its profitability.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Right.<\/p>\n

CALLER: But under this law, if you sell your business based on profitability, you\u2019re in violation and you go to jail.<\/p>\n

RUSH: If you sell the business on the basis of profitability you go to jail?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yep.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, you know, this isn\u2019t —<\/p>\n

CALLER: You cannot be paid based on the revenue generated by loans.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, what pray tell…? (laughing) On what are you to be paid then?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, that is a good question, Rush. <\/p>\n

RUSH: I mean, where is the income generated if it\u2019s not from the loan being paid back?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, it is generated by the loan, but now the companies, they\u2019re being told, “You cannot pay the loan officers based on the revenue brought in.” So you can set \u2019em up on a salary —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah?<\/p>\n

CALLER: — or you can set \u2019em up on a percentage of the loan amount, but not a percentage of the revenue.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, tell me this. Back in the days of the subprime, Michael, how was anybody making any money when you guys were ordered to loan money to people that could never pay it back?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, back then it was a lot easier. Now, you know, I\u2019ll be the first to admit that there were a lot of unscrupulous people in the mortgage industry, and I\u2019ve always said, “Crooks are like cockroaches. You turn on the light, and they scatter.”<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, no, that\u2019s not what I mean. No, no, no, no, no. I\u2019m not going there. I\u2019m simply saying: You\u2019re saying that you make money as a percentage of the profitability of your loan that you make, okay?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: How in the world did anybody make any money? I\u2019m talking about you guys, a loan officer, not management. How did any of you guys make any money when you\u2019re loaning money to people that never had to pay it back and never could pay it back, the subprimes?<\/p>\n

CALLER: (noise of moving things around) Not sure if I understand your question completely, Rush.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay, you\u2019re gonna make a loan to me. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Mmm-hmm?<\/p>\n

RUSH: I\u2019m never gonna pay it back. The government\u2019s telling you that you gotta loan it to me because I\u2019m poor. You gotta give me the money to buy a house but I\u2019m never gonna pay it back because I can\u2019t, I don\u2019t have any income but the government\u2019s making you give me the money anyway. Subprime mortgage. Okay, so there\u2019s a loan that there\u2019s no money that\u2019s coming in to pay. How do you make a salary on it? How do you make a living on it?<\/p>\n

CALLER: (cell phone garbled) Well, the money is generated when the loan is sold to the investor, whether it\u2019s a subprime investor or —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah, but it\u2019s still worthless paper. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Excuse me?<\/p>\n

RUSH: But see, it was still worthless paper. As far as the subprime is concerned, this was the problem with it from day one. You think that the Feds are getting involved in your mortgage business; they\u2019ve been involved in it for 20 years (probably longer than that, but at least in a direct way that impacts you). The Community Redevelopment Act required that loans be made to low income and no-income people. You were forced to do it. You don\u2019t sound old enough. Maybe you weren\u2019t making mortgage loans back then. I\u2019m talking about going back to the mid- to late nineties. How long have you been in the mortgage industry?<\/p>\n

CALLER: For a long time. I\u2019ve been in business for a long time, and I was in the business back when they were doing subprimes, and I didn\u2019t really get involved in those loans as much because I mainly dealt with people had good credit, good income — and, you know, we dealt with, you know, self-employed borrowers who needed a stated-income loan because that was what stated-income loans were created was. Because when you underwrite a loan and you\u2019re look at income somebody who\u2019s a W2 employee, you go off their gross income, but as a self-employed borrower you go off the net income, and it\u2019s… You know, if a business owner has a good CPA obviously he tries to show as little profit as possible to pay the minimum amount of taxes.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, exactly but the point…? So you didn\u2019t have to get involved in the subprime business. But I\u2019m just wondering — based on what you\u2019ve said, I\u2019m thinking just now with a naturally passionately curious mind –Well, how did anybody make any money loaning money? I know Fannie and Freddie bought it but there was still nobody paying it. Nobody was paying on the loan. The financial industry had to come up with all of these derivatives and the collateralized debt obligations to make the paper worth something. You can\u2019t give somebody $150,000! This is what they were doing: A subprime mortgage was giving the money away.<\/p>\n

Nobody ever had to make a payment. So there\u2019s no money coming in, so the lending institution is out 150 grand, so I\u2019m saying to the loan officer in charge that (if what we\u2019re hearing is right): How did he make a dime? You can sell the mortgage but still nobody is paying any money on the mortgage. And Fannie and Freddie are how much in debt? The whole thing was a mess. My point to you, Michael, is this is just the latest: The federal government intruding in the mortgage industry now determining how it is that you can make money. But I\u2019ll tell you, Michael, it\u2019s not just your industry. Let me tell you about radio. Let me tell you about radio sales. <\/p>\n

It\u2019s really no different. I could get an endless parade of advertising executives from radio stations to come in here and tell you horror story after horror story. Each ad executive station gets a list of clients, and obviously some lists are better than others. Some people have lists of people that don\u2019t advertise. Some advertisers are on the list. I\u2019ve heard horror stories. An ad exec has had his commission dropped, his list changed, if he starts making too much money — and that\u2019s not because the federal government\u2019s involved. It\u2019s just the way the business ran, and in some places it didn\u2019t happen. <\/p>\n

It depended on who the manager was. It depended on what the philosophy was. It depended on whether they were creeps, whether they were decent motivators or not. Now, in your case you got the federal government moving in; that\u2019s pretty oppressive. But the federal government\u2019s been involved in the loan business, the savings and loan business, the mortgage business for I don\u2019t know how long. Now determining how much money you can or can\u2019t not make from it? Yeah, that\u2019s a red flag to everybody. That is a… (interruption) Well, how is the housing market going to recover with all this stuff going on? <\/p>\n

Okay, how is the housing market going to recover? Well, it will. The housing market\u2019s gonna be driven by purchases and that\u2019s gonna happen when people are able. Whenever that happens and people have the ability to buy a house, they will. There are a lot of factors involved there, but that doesn\u2019t… You know, normal cycles will continue to take place. Economic cycles. But it still doesn\u2019t disguise the fact that this administration is putting itself — is inserting itself — in the mechanism by which people acquire wealth. It\u2019s either the tax code that is a penalty — and believe me, the income tax, folks, is designed to prevent the acquisition of wealth. Pure and simple. That\u2019s what it is. <\/p>\n

In addition to all this gobbledygook about “funding government services and, blah, blah, blah, blah,” it\u2019s designed to prevent the acquisition of wealth — and it does in all too many cases. So I\u2019m not surprised that they\u2019re getting involved in this way. I\u2019ll tell you, the excuse for it probably is that by limiting how much, Michael, you and people like you can make, the loan will be cheaper for the disadvantaged American who is already the victim of capitalism and greedy people like you. So if the government moves in and dictates how much you cannot make on a loan that is a smaller monthly cost to the consumer (i.e., more affordable), therefore, you take it on the chin. <\/p>\n

Welcome to the Democrat Party running the country. <\/p>\n

Pure and simple. That\u2019s all you need to know about it.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Folks, what this mortgage banker, the mortgage broker from St. Louis was describing is a command economy, and it\u2019s what Obama wants for everybody and everything. We\u2019ve talked about it in different terminology here, but the idea that we\u2019re gonna spread misery, we\u2019re gonna spread equality, we\u2019re gonna redistribute wealth, we\u2019re gonna make sure the rich are taken down, social justice. In this case the way it\u2019s justified is that why should somebody get rich off of the pain somebody has to go through repaying a mortgage? Why should somebody get rich doing that? This is just under the nose of the tent that is the command economy that Obama wants for everybody. <\/p>\n

It\u2019s like every other command economy, some people are gonna get more social justice than others. Some people are gonna be preferred. Whoever Obama and his minions think are the most disadvantaged or the most taken advantage of, or what have you, and I guarantee you, if you have any position, if your job is in any way considered management or executive, you are going to pay for it. And then iin your position, in management or as an executive, you are taking advantage as the mortgage industry clearly does just by definition, according to Obama. Obama looks at it, why should somebody make money off of a loan? I guarantee you he looks at it that way. Why should somebody make any money off a loan? You\u2019ve got a house, why should somebody go broke having a house? Why should the person who makes the loan get rich? I guarantee you this is how he looks at it. Social justice. That is how Sharia law sees it. Damn right it is, Snerdley, it\u2019s exactly how Sharia law sees it. Interest is sinful. Financial interest, making money off of money is sinful. Andy McCarthy, my old buddy, says if you want to know how Libya is gonna end up, learn Sharia law. Sharia law will tell us where Libya is headed. Sharia law will tell us where Egypt is headed. Sharia law will tell us where all of the Middle East is headed. It just takes the courage to believe it.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Jeff in Atlanta, it\u2019s your turn on the EIB Network. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hey, Rush. It\u2019s an honor to be on your show.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: You had a caller a while back who was a loan officer and you had asked him the question: How does the lender and how does that loan officer make money on a bad subprime loan? I was gonna handle that one for you.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Right.<\/p>\n

CALLER: All right. Well, basically what you have is there is the originator of the loan. That is gonna be the company — let\u2019s say it\u2019s ABC. They\u2019re originating the loan; the loan officer works for them. They take the application, they approve the loan, they fund the loan — and at that moment at the closing, that\u2019s when their loan officer is getting paid, and that\u2019s when that company that\u2019s originating the loan is getting the money. Now, what happens is, that\u2019s when the profit\u2019s made by them. But then they take that loan, as well as others they\u2019ve created, and they then sell them in the secondary market to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Let me stop you right there. Let me stop you, because is it true that once you start selling — package these loans and sell \u2019em — isn\u2019t it true that you\u2019ll package some bad loans with good loans? In other words, you don\u2019t just sell a package of bad loans to people, or what you think are bad loans. It\u2019s a combination of things so that your investors are buying what they think are good loans, right? <\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah, and that\u2019s the time they sell them, you know, they sell them so quickly. And, you know, you\u2019ve maybe been through a purchase thus much — you probably use cash, of course, which is smart. But most people, you know, they get the loan, that loan is sold sometimes even before they leave the closing table, it\u2019s already been sold, and so what happens is they don\u2019t know at this point whether these loans are bad or good. So the real culprit here, of course, is Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and what they did and what caused this whole problem is they allow… Because if Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, who set up the guidelines of what they will purchase, if they didn\u2019t purchase loans with…hmm…questionable…hmmm…kind of guidelines that people would default on, then these lenders would never have originated these things to begin with, because they\u2019d sell \u2019em off, and so it\u2019s Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac who set up —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Right, so it got —<\/p>\n

CALLER: — those guidelines.<\/p>\n

RUSH: It got to the point, then, that if a lender was told that his loan would not be bought by Freddie Mac or Fannie Mae, he wouldn\u2019t make the loan, right?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Absolutely not. Exactly. And, you know, to blame the lenders, that\u2019s a joke. If that secondary market wouldn\u2019t have been there, those bad loans wouldn\u2019t have been originated. Certainly some of them would have because they don\u2019t all get sold to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, but certainly large percentage do — and so the blame rests squarely upon them. And, of course, hence to government who helps coerce, you know, pressures Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, to, you know, lower the limit so you get more people approved for home ownership. <\/p>\n

RUSH: All right.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Creating bad problems.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I remember when this first happened to me. I bought a house I had no business buying in Kansas City. I believed a bunch of stupid advice — twice! I had no business buying it, and then I shoulda sold it, and they said, “No, no, no! You never sell it. That\u2019s your one asset. You hold on, go broke paying it off.” Okay, which I did. But I\u2019ll never forget six months after — and I knew the loan officer and I\u2019d spent a lot of time getting the loan and all of a sudden I get in the mail this book of coupons that I\u2019m paying somebody else. And I said, “What the hell is this?” <\/p>\n

So I had it explained to me, “Well, somebody bought your mortgage and a whole bunch of others.” <\/p>\n

I said, “Who? Ah, it was somebody out of town.” I didn\u2019t know them. <\/p>\n

I said, “Well, I don\u2019t like this. A bunch of people I don\u2019t know I\u2019m now writing my monthly mortgage check to?”<\/p>\n

You know, I kind of liked knowing who it was I had cajoled the loan from — and that was seventies. So that\u2019s when I started learning about how all this worked, and I still was in the dark about it for a while. But, anyway, look, I appreciate the call, Jeff. That answers my question. You get paid at the time the loan\u2019s made before somebody even pays it back. But specifically, you know, what I was asking about this guy that called earlier in the program: There were loans made to people that everybody knew were not gonna pay a dime on them. That was the whole point. They were forced to. The lending institutions were forced to by federal government.<\/p>\n

Some people were not even having to fill out applications. They just signed it! It was an utter disaster, and it was all the Democrat Party\u2019s idea of “affordable housing.” It was how things are gonna be “made fair,” and you think this sounds strange, folks, don\u2019t doubt me on this. This is exactly how these people think. “It\u2019s just not fair that some people should be able to afford a loan to buy a house and others shouldn\u2019t, and so the way to make that legal is to force the lender to give people a loan that can\u2019t pay it back and we\u2019ll figure it out later,” and here we are. I know it sounds ridiculous, it sounds absurd, and it sounds way too simplistic. <\/p>\n

But it\u2019s what happened. It\u2019s just one way of creating social justice. It\u2019s another way of redistributing wealth under the guidelines of within the system. You know, it\u2019s much easier to say that you\u2019re lending somebody some money as opposed to giving it to them when you go through the process of making \u2019em sign an application, get their payment booklet, and all that — when you know from the moment they walk out the door they don\u2019t have the money to pay you a dime. They don\u2019t have the money to pay their phone bill, for crying out loud! But they\u2019re gonna go get a house. <\/p>\n

END TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

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