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RUSH: I think you need to know something, folks. You\u2019re all wired and ready for the debt ceiling fight, right? Don\u2019t be. The ruling class on the Republican side has decided the debt ceiling is not the next battle. The Ryan budget is. Go to conservative media blogs, yesterday afternoon and last night, you would have said that the message here, the real fight is not the debt ceiling. It\u2019s the Ryan budget. What the conservative ruling class, ruling class intelligentsia media is attempting to do here is to accomplish the same thing they did with the budget: Don\u2019t fight it. Don\u2019t go for the government shutdown. Don\u2019t plant the flag here on the debt ceiling. Don\u2019t do it. We can\u2019t win. Don\u2019t do it. We\u2019re gonna lose. <\/p>\n

It\u2019s a rerun, folks. The people who gave you the tepid fight over this budget vis-a-vis the government shutdown are now the same people attempting to plant the flag in the area where, “Ah, forget the budget debt limit. That\u2019s not the next fight. We gotta gird up. We gotta get ready for the Ryan budget. That\u2019s what we have to focus on.” If you haven\u2019t heard it yet just keep a sharp eye, you will, it\u2019s coming. Because it\u2019s already been said. The groundwork has been laid. Just warning you. <\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

John Fund was on one morning show today. I forget which one. But he was saying, “Look, the real fight\u2019s not the debt ceiling. The real fight\u2019s gonna be the Ryan budget,” and a lot of others are starting to say the same thing, that the debt ceiling is not the next fight. Folks, you can get mad at me all you want for just pointing out what\u2019s happening. You can go right ahead. <\/p>\n

But all weekend long one of the reasons we were told, ‘That $38 billion, that\u2019s a lot of money. We finally turned the boat around: a $38 billion budget deal, real cuts. Thirty-eight, that\u2019s good because the real battle is gonna be the debt ceiling, there we\u2019re gonna be talking about trillions, not billions,” and now I\u2019m telling you the table is being set that we\u2019re gonna forget the debt ceiling next and instead the real focus is gonna be on the Ryan budget. Mitch McConnell at that confab the Republicans just had, the Senate leader for the Republicans just spoke. He talked about the importance of “maintaining confidence in the United States around the world.” <\/p>\n

He said you can\u2019t threaten to go into default by refusing to raise the debt limit and keep the confidence of world markets. So we are getting… I don\u2019t know if I like the term. You know, I really don\u2019t want to make you guys mad at me by using the term “precave,” but the debt limit now. “We\u2019re gonna focus on the debt limit. Don\u2019t worry about what didn\u2019t happen with the budget deal. That\u2019s chump change, and we knew it was chump change. The debt limit, that\u2019s where we\u2019re gonna fight.” Apparently not. (sigh) Now there\u2019s too much at risk in a debt limit. Then we gotta move on to the Ryan budget. <\/p>\n

A giant See, I Told You So. Larry Kudlow over at CNBC said the same thing yesterday. “Ah, the debt limit, it\u2019s too risky. No, we\u2019re gonna fight it,” and before long, before long, I\u2019m just gonna predict to you that the message is going to evolve to be, “You know, really, this is not the time to fight for the Ryan budget because we don\u2019t have the White House. We\u2019ve gotta focus on the presidential election. The Ryan budget? We need to wait on that awhile.” I guarantee you. Well, I\u2019m not gonna guarantee you on that. But I\u2019m just suggesting that you not be surprised, \u2019cause the pattern is starting to establish itself out there. You know it and I know it.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: It\u2019s an instant See, I Told You So. While I was warning you what was coming, while I was warning you that they\u2019re gonna punt the debt ceiling and move on to the Ryan budget, here is the Speaker, John Boehner, literally when I was telling you that 15 minutes ago….<\/p>\n

BOEHNER: I fully support Paul Ryan\u2019s budget, including his efforts, uh, on Medicare. But I think all of us understand, uh, that, uh, not meeting our obligations — our debt obligations — uhhh, is a very bad idea, and nobody wants to take that risk.<\/p>\n

RUSH: All right, so they\u2019re gonna kick the debt ceiling down the road. They\u2019re going to kick it down the road. This is chutzpah because it was — again, I remind you — over the weekend, used as an excuse for only $38 billion on the budget fight. “That\u2019s billions. We\u2019re gonna get trillions! We\u2019re going for trillions on the debt sealing fight.” Now, that\u2019s kicked down the road. When we get to the Ryan budget (this a prediction), the same people are gonna say, “Why fight this battle now? The Ryan budget\u2019s about ten years, nobody cares about that, no current Congress can tie the hands of future Congress.<\/p>\n

“So the Ryan budget, we\u2019re gonna hold that until we have the White House. Let\u2019s focus on the presidential election. We\u2019ve got important issues to face out there like regulating school lunches and making sure that people can\u2019t take \u2019em from home.” Don\u2019t doubt me. Now, if the trend continues — if the trend continues — Obama today will propose raising taxes on somebody (and actually it will be on everybody no matter what he says). Everybody will be faced with the prospect of paying higher taxes, and we will agree to a certain percentage of tax increases, and then elements of our conservative media will write praising editorials on the value of compromise. <\/p>\n

(laughing) It\u2019ll be how we took what could have been a disaster and a 10% Obama tax increase and we only made it 5% and called it a win, and say how our guys are hanging in there for us. (laughing) Snerdley is scratching his dwindling supply of hair in there. Okay. We\u2019re less than an hour from President Obama\u2019s budget speech, the second one this year. We will be JIPping it on this program. I got an e-mail. “Don\u2019t carry that! We\u2019d just soon listen to you. You will be. You think I\u2019m gonna sit here and turn my microphone off when this is going on, folks? Where are we starting? Pompano Beach, Florida. Hi, Mike. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Never turn your microphone off, and this is a lot better than talking to John Boehner\u2019s secretary at his office when I called the other day. But I\u2019m just absolutely furious. To any of the listeners that have sent those e-mails to you and anybody who is sitting on the sidelines: “When Rush Limbaugh, the Tea Party, Mark Levin, and Dick Morris all think this is a bad deal, it\u2019s a bad deal.” You gotta remember who we\u2019re dealing with here, okay? This guy has trampled all over the Constitution. These are the same people that fought in Wisconsin. We need to fight. We elected these people to be obstructionists. Nothing\u2019s gonna get done on Ryan\u2019s budget because it\u2019s gotta go through the Senate and get signed by the president. You think he\u2019s gonna sign anything worthwhile? A shutdown… Look, you\u2019re limited as an obstructionist and the House has a ton of power to obstruct. That\u2019s the role they need to play is obstruction, because any other role is just trumped by their one-third of the government —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well…<\/p>\n

CALLER: — and it infuriates me.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I know. This is what a lot of people voting in November expected. The voters were sophisticated. They know the lay of the land. They know that Obama can veto such things as a repeal of his health care bill. They know it, but they want to see the effort. Send it up there every week and make him veto it every week. Make them own these disastrous policies. Stand for something else. I\u2019m gonna tell you what galls me: This notion that we\u2019ve gotta put this fight off for another day, that we have to kick the can down the road. Now, I really hate to keep harping on this, but this is the best illustration that I can come up with. <\/p>\n

Here we had Obama and Harry Reid locked into a position. They were willing to shut down the government and not pay our soldiers on the battlefield in order to keep the money spigot flowing for the abortionists at Planned Parenthood, and the Republicans didn\u2019t think they could win that PR fight? Given the election results of November, where is it written that we can\u2019t win a PR fight with a bunch of people who are unwilling to pay the troops but want to make sure abortionists continue to get paid? That\u2019s what the fight was about last week. <\/p>\n

Elmer Fudd could win that fight! Elmer Fudd could win it. For crying out loud! You know, this is the thing that is frustrating to me because — as I told the Heritage people Friday — never in my lifetime has there been a greater opportunity to contrast who we are and what we stand for with our opponents, and we don\u2019t really have to even say anything. Just point to what they\u2019re doing! People\u2019s lives, millions of people\u2019s lives are being seriously hurt — in some cases destroyed — by this administration, and by this administration\u2019s policies. <\/p>\n

As the elections in November proved, we don\u2019t really have to say anything. Is that all we have to do is point out what we are for. If you\u2019re afraid to criticize Obama because he\u2019s black and you\u2019re afraid of being called a racist or whatever, fine. Just tell us who you are and what you stand for and it will carry the day. Never has there been a greater opportunity! We have people who want to fundamentally transform this country and turn it into a welfare state where a majority of people are depending on government for their very existence. <\/p>\n

Therefore they will forever vote for big government — and why wouldn\u2019t they? They\u2019re never going to be paying for it. That\u2019s where we\u2019re headed. Well, that\u2019s a lousy future for us and your kids and grandkids.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Here\u2019s Tom in Delmar, New York, as we head back to the phones. Great to have you on the program, sir. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hey, Rush, it\u2019s a pleasure to speak with you.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You bet, sir. Thank you.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Not only did the Republicans give in on the debt ceiling or are going to be giving in on the debt ceiling and they gave up on the budget deal, but lately on judge Napolitano\u2019s show and a couple others I\u2019ve seen congressmen come on saying that they\u2019re gonna abandon the balanced budget amendment because Paul Ryan\u2019s proposed budget does not achieve it quick enough.<\/p>\n

RUSH: They\u2019re gonna abandon the balanced budget amendment, meaning they\u2019re gonna shift their focus to the Ryan budget?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Right. Originally they said that the only way they\u2019re gonna vote to increase the debt ceiling is if they get a balanced budget amendment, but now they\u2019re softening that saying that just some hard caps will do, but now the congressmen have been coming on, Mike Lee\u2019s in the Senate, is the one who proposed this, but now House members are saying it\u2019s gonna be abandoned because Paul Ryan\u2019s budget doesn\u2019t achieve a balanced budget quickly enough.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay. I think what you\u2019re saying is that these guys are saying if they\u2019re gonna be loyal to the Ryan budget, they have to give it up.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes.<\/p>\n

RUSH: They\u2019ve gotta give up the balanced budget amendment \u2019cause they gotta support Ryan\u2019s budget. Ryan\u2019s budget, balanced budget, doesn\u2019t take, what, 15 or 20 years for it to happen. Well, could be. Now, in 2006, and this is just a reminder, and that\u2019s just five years ago, in 2006 every Democrat in the Senate voted against raising the debt ceiling. In fact, some in the House did, too. Steny Hoyer is the latest Democrat to come out and agree with Obama. “You know what? That was a big mistake of mine. You know, I voted against raising the debt limit in 2006, that was a big, big, big mistake.” So Obama\u2019s saying it; Steny Hoyer has said it. Every one of them in the Senate, every Democrat in the Senate in 2006 voted against raising the debt ceiling even though we were at risk of losing the war in Iraq. <\/p>\n

Now, some people might say that they voted against the debt ceiling because we were at risk of losing the Iraq war, and that was their strategy. But isn\u2019t it funny now how times change. They are probably gonna vote unanimously for raising the debt ceiling next month. They have such strong principles, don\u2019t you know. And now the Republicans were hoping to plant the flag in the ground on the debt ceiling. “Rush, they know that we\u2019re paying attention. They know that we\u2019re watching. Why are they caving here in a matter of 24 hours on this?” It appears they are. That\u2019s what all the words seem to mean. I don\u2019t know. I can only speculate. I think one of the tactical reasons for it is that, okay, they claim they\u2019re gonna plant the flag, yeah, a budget battle, that was billions, that\u2019s chump change. Don\u2019t worry, we\u2019re gonna really hunker down here on the debt ceiling. That\u2019s where we\u2019re gonna demand trillions and so forth. Except they threw away the weapon, they have telegraphed they will not shut the government down. Andrew Malcolm has a piece in his blog, the LA Times today, “Why Obama Was Forced to Give Today\u2019s Deficit Speech.” And it\u2019s all about how Obama\u2019s been kind of forced and maneuvered into this, and I read it, it\u2019s a well-written piece, as all of Andrew Malcolm\u2019s stuff is. I don\u2019t think I agree with it. I don\u2019t think Obama thinks he got snookered at all.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Let\u2019s go to Sierra Vista, Arizona, we go back to the phones. Hello, Rich, great to have you on the EIB Network. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hey, Rush, dittos from the desert.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hey, I was listening to Boehner and McConnell today with all this stuff going on, and you may have already answered my question by saying Congress can\u2019t tie the hands of future Congresses. You know, they are talking about there\u2019s no way that they have the votes to raise the debt ceiling. So, okay, if they don\u2019t have the votes to raise the debt ceiling unless there\u2019s something substantive that we can\u2019t do, I can\u2019t think of anything more substantive than say, “Okay, we\u2019ll raise your debt ceiling to cover our debts for this fiscal year but starting October 1st, tie it in,” and at the same time that they do the budget, that they\u2019re supposed to start doing the budget: The first thing they have to do on October 1st is lower the debt ceiling by law —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Wait a minute.<\/p>\n

CALLER: — and every year —<\/p>\n

RUSH: I\u2019m a little confused. Where have you heard there aren\u2019t the votes yet to raise the debt ceiling?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Boehner and McConnell were on the television just a little a while ago talking about it after a meeting they had with Obama.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I missed that.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah. It was on Fox News. They were actually doing a live thing, and they sat there and said, “We don\u2019t have the votes to give it to you unless you give us something else that\u2019s substantive.”<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, now, that\u2019s actually encouraging. They have been talking earlier and were sounding quite different. In fact, I heard McConnell say that, in effect, raising the debt limit, this is not to go to war on. It\u2019s too important. We have to raise the debt ceiling. Now you\u2019re confusing me.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, it\u2019s not confusing. Boehner, McConnell, Cantor, and Kyl were all on the same video, and it was live, and they said, “No, we don\u2019t have the votes to do it unless you give us something else,” and I think that they should tie it to every certain amount of time — and I don\u2019t even know what the time would be. “This time we lower it, this time we lower it, this time we lower it.” Say, “You can\u2019t raise it anymore legally, by law,” and I think that has a snowball effect on everything, because now you\u2019re telling the rest of the world.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, that is what we\u2019re all after. What we are all after is reducing debt, is reducing the size of government. Now, one of the disadvantages here is all this stuff happening while I happen to be serving humanity. It\u2019s very rare that somebody calls here and tells me something I don\u2019t know. It\u2019s doubly rare that somebody calls here and tells me something that\u2019s quite the opposite of what I thought I heard. So now I\u2019m gonna have to really dig into this, \u2019cause believe me: Some of the conservative media people from last night and this morning were saying, “You know what? We thought the debt limit would be the place to fight this but we\u2019re not. We\u2019re gonna focus on the Ryan budget.” <\/p>\n

And there was a story in The Politico, and it\u2019s The Politico, I grant you that, that\u2019s why we hold it in reserve that Wall Street people are threatening Boehner on the debt ceiling and that Boehner and McConnell are both out there talking about: We can\u2019t afford to play around with America in default, meaning not raise the debt ceiling. But we\u2019ll get to the bottom of it, folks. You know, at the end of the day, we here at the EIB Network will get to the bottom of it. I just have not heard what this caller said. I have not heard it, and we\u2019re gonna find out what the bottom line is. <\/p>\n

By the way, charitable giving also included in no deductions for the upper 2% of wage earners. (interruption) Yeah, but it\u2019s nothing new. Remember, now, ending the charitable deduction goes back to the first days of the regime. I think maybe even in the campaign. Remember, they want to be the source of all charity. They want the government to be the source of charity. They\u2019d be perfectly fine if charitable giving dries up because there\u2019s no longer a deduction. The deduction for it now is whatever your tax bracket is. So 35, 36% at the top. I don\u2019t know what the top bracket is. Whatever it is, that\u2019s what your deduction is but he\u2019s gonna eliminate it. <\/p>\n

All kinds of deductions, Snerdley, not just the home mortgage interest deduction. Charitable donations, no more tax deductibility. Look, he\u2019s gonna strip them all. There is no more deductibility. It\u2019s not fair that they can deduct and the middle class can\u2019t. If he thought he lost the budget debate, he wouldn\u2019t be making the speech much less saying this stuff. See, everybody\u2019s got this wrong, everybody thinks he\u2019s out there making this speech because he lost the budget debate. Everybody\u2019s out there thinking he made this speech today because he took it on the chin, because all the spin of the media on the weekend was, “Wow, the Republicans really cleaned Obama\u2019s clock!<\/p>\n

“So he\u2019s gotta go out there and he\u2019s gotta put his hand in the deal now. He\u2019s gotta make sure he keeps his hand in there.” You can tell from his attitude, the contents, the subject matter, he doesn\u2019t think he lost the budget deal. In my humble opinion. Listening to Obama today, he thinks that he will be able to get whatever he wants. I don\u2019t think that he\u2019s acting chastened or beaten or defensive. In fact, he\u2019s back to looking like God. He\u2019s looking up above everybody. One of the tricks is they raise those teleprompter screens higher than his eye level so he has to look up so that he appears to be looking down on everybody. <\/p>\n

His nose is in the air. They put the godlike reverb in there now and then. He\u2019s back to that. The only missing there is fake, papier-mache Greek columns that they had in Denver. Now, the Washington Times is quoting Boehner and quoting McConnell as saying, “No debt ceiling increase without cutting the debt.” That is in the Washington Times. We\u2019ll get more detail on this. I hope that\u2019s true. I hope the interpretation I had earlier, what I heard, is not true, it was incorrect.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: There are not enough votes in the House to raise the debt ceiling without language attached requiring more spending cuts. Republican leaders did say that today. We have checked. We\u2019re working hard here. Show prep goes on while the show is being done. There are not enough votes in the House to raise the debt limit right now. And, there aren\u2019t enough Republican votes to pass a $38 and a half billion budget deal right now. They might have to go get some Democrat votes to pass the budget deal negotiated with Obama on Friday.<\/p>\n

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