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RUSH: I want to welcome back, in the meantime the leading, according to the latest polling data, Republican presidential candidate, Donald Trump to the EIB microphones. Mr. Trump, great to have you back here.<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: Hi, Rush. How are you doing so far? Can you tell a number? Are you allowed to say the number that you\u2019ve raised so far?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, I try to stay away from actual hard numbers \u2019til the end of the program is over.<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: Well, it might influence what I\u2019m gonna do \u2019cause I\u2019m trying to figure out like the scope. You know, I don\u2019t know what the scope is but it\u2019s an incredible cause. So I have to sort of ask. Can you give me, like, an idea? What did you raise last year, Rush?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Last year, we did about a million-and-a-half to two million when it\u2019s all said and done.<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: Wow, that\u2019s great.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Within one three-hour program.<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: I think that\u2019s fantastic. Okay, so here\u2019s the story. You ready?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah.<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: Okay — and you can treat me terribly after I do this. It doesn\u2019t make any difference to me how you treat me.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Wait a second. Donald, I was wrong, it was over $3 million last year.<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: So in honor of you, because I love your show and whenever I can, I listen — and it\u2019s not easy when you\u2019re a business guy, right? <\/p>\n

RUSH: I know.<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: Because, you know, the timing isn\u2019t so great.<\/p>\n

RUSH: That\u2019s exactly right.<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: But I listen a lot. In honor of you, $100,000.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Oh, my gosh! (chuckles)<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: That\u2019s in honor of you, and now you can go and really beat me up. Go ahead, Rush.<\/p>\n

RUSH: (chuckles) I\u2019ve gotta tell you, you may not know this — well, you probably know this — but there\u2019s a polling outlet out of North Carolina that generally tends liberal, Public Policy Polling. You are up leading the entire Republican field now with 26% of the vote. Huckabee is in second place at 17%. Does this surprise you? When you started this, did you think that you would be at the top of the heap this quickly?<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: Well, I didn\u2019t —<\/p>\n

RUSH: People didn\u2019t know for sure that you were running.<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: I didn\u2019t think it would go this fast, Rush, but to be honest with you — and I don\u2019t even know if it\u2019s me or the message — the fact is I look at what\u2019s happening to this country, I look at the way China is just ripping us off, I look at OPEC the way they are ripping us off with the oil prices. I mean, people are gonna be paying six and seven dollars a gallon for gasoline very, very soon; and you\u2019re gonna be up to $150 a barrel; and they wouldn\u2019t even be there if it weren\u2019t for us. I look at South Korea. What they do to us is unbelievable. Even a smaller country, Colombia, they\u2019re signing a trade packet. We lost last year — let\u2019s call it “lost” — $4 billion with Colombia, fourth largest country in Latin America, $4 billion. With China this year, Rush, we\u2019re gonna lose $300 billion, and that wouldn\u2019t happen if I was there.<\/p>\n

RUSH: What does it tell you…?<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: People hear it and they like me, I guess.<\/p>\n

RUSH: What does it tell you that the ChiComs say that they\u2019re gonna start divesting themselves of our T-bills? What does that tell you?<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: They won\u2019t divest because we have the power. They don\u2019t have the power, Rush. Rush, if we ever wanted them to stop manipulating their currency, which makes it almost impossible for our companies to compete — and I know because I build buildings, and I have to get so much stuff whether it\u2019s curtain walls or other things from China, and I hate do it. But they manipulate their currency to such an extent that it\u2019s very hard, almost impossible for our companies to compete; and if you ever said to them, “Folks, the game is over.” You know, we\u2019re rebuilding China, Rush. We\u2019re rebuilding China. They\u2019re building bridges like twice the size of the George Washington Bridge. <\/p>\n

The George Washington Bridge is like a small bridge. They are building airports, they\u2019re building cities, with our money — and it\u2019s mostly from us because we have leadership that doesn\u2019t know what they\u2019re doing. If you ever said to them, “There\u2019s a 25% tax, a 25% tax on all of your products coming in,” we would, first of all, never really probably have to oppose the tax because they would come to the table — if you meant it, if you really meant it — so fast. Now, if they didn\u2019t come to the table, we\u2019d make a fortune. We\u2019d take in a lot of money and guess what? Jobs would start going to Alabama and North Carolina and all our places. So when you ask me about the polls, people know — and I made a lot of money with the Chinese, believe me.<\/p>\n

Both in terms of selling them very big apartments — I sold one for $33 million recently to a Chinese gentleman — but also in terms of deals. I made a lot of money with the Chinese, and I know the Chinese very well. By the way, they don\u2019t love us. I will tell you that. Just in case anybody has any question. They don\u2019t. When I see Obama having a dinner at the White House, Rush, for the president of China — who\u2019s been screwing us worse than anybody other than OPEC — for years, it\u2019s not the right and appropriate location for a dinner, believe me. So there are ways of handling it, and they need us, Rush. That\u2019s the one thing. They always say, “Oh, but they have our debt.” Think of it they take our money and then they loan it back to us and we have to pay \u2019em interest. It\u2019s very… It would be something to solve very easily, if you have the right messenger. We don\u2019t have the right messenger. Obama is the wrong messenger.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, years ago, three years ago, you thought Obama had the potential to be “great.” You did.<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: I was hoping. No, no, he was just… You know —<\/p>\n

RUSH: What did you see in Obama three years ago that\u2019s changed?<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: Well, look, Rush. Three years ago, or, you know, he got elect — he gets — he wins the election, right? And people came to me, and I said, “I hope he\u2019s great. I think he\u2019s gonna be great. We all love him.” We were… I want him to do great, Rush, and I\u2019ll go a step further. I\u2019m a Republican, but if I had my choice of running or having Obama — or somebody, but Obama, even Obama — be a great president, the greatest president ever, I\u2019d be so happy for the country. But he\u2019s not a great president. He won\u2019t be a great president. He doesn\u2019t have the capability to be a great president, and the world is laughing. We\u2019re like a joke. As a country, we\u2019re becoming like a joke. Everybody is ripping us off. But honestly, I love my business. I love it. Like you love your business, I love what I\u2019m doing, I\u2019m doing great — and, by the way, if I run, then you\u2019ll see how great I\u2019ve done. Because I\u2019ll put in a financial statement which will knock people\u2019s socks off. Just knock their socks off — and, you know, I\u2019m very proud of it. So I\u2019ll make a decision prior to June, and we\u2019ll see what happens.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Donald, you accurately describe what\u2019s happening to the country domestically, international policy. You describe Obama. The question that I have and a lot of people have: Are Obama and the people helping him in his administration just incompetent, do they not get it, or is this being done on purpose? I mean, there\u2019s an assault on the private sector of this company. There\u2019s an assault on wealth generation and creation. Is it these people are just rose-colored theoreticians who just don\u2019t know how wrong they are, or is it worse than that?<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: Well, there are two theories. There\u2019s one theory that he wants to destroy the country and create a socialistic country. There is that theory, and I\u2019ve read a lot. This isn\u2019t necessarily my theory. I personally think they\u2019re incompetent. You know, we know and you know some of the great business leaders in this country. They\u2019re fantastic. And I know many of them, almost all of them, I guess. I mean, I know so many. I know the politicians on both sides, Rush, but I know the great business leaders. I know guys that are so tough and so mean, they make you look like a nice guy, Rush. Okay?<\/p>\n

RUSH: (laughing)<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: They\u2019re so smart and so good, and I would put people to negotiate, let\u2019s say, with China. And guess what? We would do absolutely great. But we use diplomats to negotiate — and, you know, when China sends over their people to negotiate, they pick their meanest, smartest, most vicious guy; and these guys, they don\u2019t play games. They don\u2019t laugh, they don\u2019t cry, they have no emotion. They just want to make money, and they just want to rip our country to shreds. But I know people that are tougher and smarter than them. We don\u2019t use \u2019em. So I think they\u2019re incompetent. One thing Obama is: He\u2019s a good campaigner. He\u2019s a terrible president. I think he\u2019s gonna go down as the worst president ever, frankly. I used to say that about Jimmy Carter but I think he\u2019s gonna be surpassed. But I think that the one thing he is, he\u2019s a good campaigner. He just campaigns well. If you ask me about Obama, the only thing he does well is campaign.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Debt ceiling and the budget battle just fought. You\u2019re running for president — or you\u2019re toying with the idea. You have demonstrable success in making ends meet; you have to, one way or the other. What\u2019s your opinion of watching this take process place, the debt ceiling fight coming up and a budget battle where we\u2019re supposed to feel good over cutting either $38 billion or $352 million or whatever it was?<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: Well, I heard your statement last week and it was sort of interesting because when they called me, we were in the billions, in the $38 billion range; and they asked me a question, and I heard $38 billion. Now, I wasn\u2019t happy with $38 billion, but I said, “Well, we\u2019ll have another fight, and that will take place in a few months and then we\u2019ll be fine,” but then I heard the $38 billion — long after I did the interview with Greta Van Susteren who\u2019s terrific, by the way. But I did an interview with her, and the interview took place before people found out that the $380 billion (sic) was actually a lot lower. So I would have had a lot different opinion, because I wasn\u2019t even happy with the 380 number. So that\u2019s one thing. As far as the budget, I don\u2019t like raising the ceiling. You know, you can solve the problem now. Why should we keep waiting? That\u2019s the problem. We keep waiting and waiting and waiting. But I will say, Rush, the Republicans have to be careful. And I\u2019m a fan of Paul Ryan, but he shouldn\u2019t get too far out with some of these plans, because they\u2019re gonna belabor it. One thing with me: If I decide to run I am gonna cherish senior citizens. And the Democrats, and I know \u2019em all because as you know I come from New York and it\u2019s virtually a hundred percent virtual Democratic, right?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Right.<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: You know, I\u2019ve dealt with these people, Schumer and — and everybody.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I want to ask you about that when we come back from break.<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: Okay, very good. But the Republicans shouldn\u2019t get too far out because they\u2019re already making plans to say, incorrectly, that the Medicare is gonna be terrible for the seniors, et cetera, et cetera. This is Obama\u2019s fight, and he should be leading it as the president. We shouldn\u2019t get too far out in front.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Donald Trump is with us as we attempt to cure leukemia and lymphoma — and, by the way, thank you again for that donation. That was totally unexpected. Mr. Trump has thrown $100,000 into our effort here today.<\/p>\n

<\/a>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: We welcome back Donald Trump. I need to ask you something about Paul Ryan and what you meant. You said that he\u2019s gotta be very careful not to be too far out. You mean too many years out in his planning or too far out in his thinking?<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: Too far out with the plan itself. He\u2019s doing a plan, he\u2019s done a plan, he\u2019s come out, and what the Democrats — and I see it more and more and I hear from them because, again, you know, living in New York that\u2019s what I see is Democrats all over the place — are going to do is say it\u2019s attack on Medicare. And Medicare to a lot of people means seniors, and that this is a very strong attack on Medicare. And I honestly think you have to go down the line in a bipartisan way. You have to go down with the Democrats. I don\u2019t think they should be too far out in front. Don\u2019t forget, we don\u2019t have the president yet. Hopefully, we will have. We don\u2019t have. He\u2019s supposed to be leading this attack, not us. And they can do rejects, they can criticize his plan, but in my opinion… You know, there\u2019s an election in 2012, right?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah.<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: In my opinion, he has to be very careful because when he mentions even the touching of the word “Medicare” — and Medicaid to a lesser extent, perhaps — but when he mentions even the touching of Medicare, they\u2019re gonna attack him unmercifully.<\/p>\n

RUSH: They\u2019re gonna attack —<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: I just think it\u2019s a bad position to be in when you have an election coming up.<\/p>\n

RUSH: They\u2019re gonna attack him anyway just like they\u2019re gonna attack you. Now, his plan doesn\u2019t touch current recipients. That\u2019s one thing he\u2019s very clear about.<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: But you, you. Last time you were here I shared with you some questions I had from members of my audience uncomfortable with donations that you have made to Democrats: Rahm Emanuel, Chuck Schumer, and so forth.<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: Right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You explained that. You have to do business in the places you live. They\u2019re the ones that hold power, hold office. You mentioned compromise just now. Donald, what are you gonna do if you\u2019re elected and all of a sudden they start accusing you of wanting to kill babies and kill old people, which they will. That\u2019s what they do. Your friendship\u2019s gonna go out the window with these guys when it comes to their political power, Donald. They\u2019re gonna come after you the same way they go after anybody else in the Republican Party.<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: Yeah, you\u2019re right, Rush, but I will say this. You know, I\u2019ve dealt with Democrats and Republicans all my life, and somebody said, “Oh, do you have that much experience politically?” You know, I\u2019ve dealt — and understand this better than anybody. I\u2019ve dealt with politicians all of my life. I\u2019ve also dealt with foreign countries. I\u2019m doing jobs all over the world. I\u2019ve dealt with foreign countries for a long period of time. The fact is, I think somebody that got along with the Democrats — and I do get along — now, you know, that could change instantaneously. You understand that. But the level of animosity… You know, in the old days “across the aisle” wasn\u2019t the worst thing. People got along. Today, the level of hatred, the level of anger — and I\u2019m the most militaristic person there is, if they treat me improperly. But I think having a little bit of a relationship on the other side of the aisle is not so bad, Rush, where deals can be made. But good deals, not the deal like Obama gave the other day. That wasn\u2019t a deal, that was a campaign speech. That was his first campaign speech.<\/p>\n

RUSH: But they\u2019re not gonna want you to succeed at anything. They will stop progress for America. Your relationship with them will change once you become elected. If you become president, you might have the ability to bring them in line, but they will not start that way. They will be out to destroy you to preserve their way of life, their political ideology. Remember, their power derives from creating more and more people dependent on government for their daily needs.<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: Right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You don\u2019t believe that.<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: Rush, you\u2019re probably right and probably it won\u2019t work out in the kind of manner which makes sense and would be good and then they\u2019ll see the real Donald Trump, because I do much better under adversity than I do the other way. I\u2019d love to see it work where people could actually get together and go down the line and straighten out this country. You\u2019re probably right, and that\u2019s fine, and then I\u2019ll do I think an even better job.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, it would be fascinating to me because you do know them.<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: I know them so well it\u2019s unbelievable.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You have socialized with them. I think that if they tried to attack you the way they attack every other conservative or Republican, you might have a leg up on them because you\u2019ve got years and years of being able to say, “Well, Chuck, you never said that to me before. You never accused me of wanting to kick old people out of their houses. Why do you think I want to do it now?”<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: Mmm-hmm.<\/p>\n

RUSH: So, you would have that opportunity. So you\u2019re thinking you might announce this on the upcoming episode of The Apprentice?<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: No. What I may do is: The finale is on May 22nd, and I may announce on the finale the date of the news conference where I\u2019d make the determination.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Oh, I see. By the way, The Apprentice —<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: And that will be, in any event, sometime prior to June. Because, you know, somebody said to me the other day, “Oh, let\u2019s do it in June.” I said, “No, I can\u2019t do that.” They said, “No, no, it would be perfect.” I said, “No, I can\u2019t do that, because I have been saying for six months ‘sometime prior to June.'” They said, “Oh, no, it doesn\u2019t matter. If you say June…” I said, “No, you don\u2019t understand. When I say ‘prior to June,\u2019 that doesn\u2019t mean ‘June.'” So I will be making an announcement sometime prior to June — and I may surprise you, Rush.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You always surprise people. <\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: Heh.<\/p>\n

RUSH: (chuckles) Look, I appreciate your time here today and everybody appreciates your donation to the Cure-A-Thon effort here. That was a shock and totally surprising. Before you go, it\u2019s probably a silly question, but have you stopped to think how your life will change were you to be elected president? I mean, it\u2019s nothing like your life. For example, would you move to the White House?<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: Well, I guess you\u2019d sorta have to but the truth is it would be a lot different — and, again, if I had my choice, I wish this country were running great. I wish I could stand up and say, “Wow, this place is really running fantastically,” and, by the way, if it were I wouldn\u2019t be getting poll numbers like I\u2019m getting. Because, you know, people look at me as somebody that can really — that knows what he\u2019s doing. Whether they love me or don\u2019t love me, they think I know what I\u2019m doing and that people aren\u2019t gonna be taking advantage of the country, and that\u2019s why I think I\u2019m doing very well in the polls. And, by the way, I see the other politicians, and, you know, I don\u2019t think that\u2019s gonna be happening. So if I had my choice, I\u2019d love to keep doing what I\u2019m doing. The country is in serious, serious trouble, like it\u2019s never been before. And that\u2019s why I\u2019m saying: Would I rather stay in Trump Tower? Would I rather stay and lead the life I\u2019m leading — and you know something about my life. It\u2019s very good.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I do. Yes, I do.<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: The answer is, yes, but I love the country, Rush.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Donald Trump. I appreciate your time. Thank you very much, and we\u2019ll talk to you again soon, I\u2019m sure.<\/p>\n

DONALD TRUMP: Thank you, Rush.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Donald Trump, talking to us from Trump Tower in New York, explaining why he\u2019s doing this, and it dovetails with what a lot of us think: The country is in terrible shape, worse than it\u2019s ever been. Again, he opened by kicking in a hundred grand to the effort to cure the blood cancers today for the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society of America. It\u2019s our annual Cure-A-Thon, the 21st today, three decades we\u2019re spanning.<\/p>\n

END TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

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