{"id":213690,"date":"2016-05-27T18:59:22","date_gmt":"2016-05-27T22:59:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/172.24.32.11\/daily\/2016\/05\/27\/open_line_friday_a_question_on_the_evolution_of_pop_and_r_b_music\/"},"modified":"2017-07-10T10:58:35","modified_gmt":"2017-07-10T14:58:35","slug":"open_line_friday_a_question_on_the_evolution_of_pop_and_r_b_music","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2016\/05\/27\/open_line_friday_a_question_on_the_evolution_of_pop_and_r_b_music\/","title":{"rendered":"Open Line Friday: A Question on the Evolution of Pop and R&amp;B Music"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/videos\/37\/71646\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img class=\"alignright\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/listentoit.jpg\" alt=\"Listen to it Button\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<section>RUSH: Here\u2019s Edward, Washington, DC. \u00a0Great you called, Edward. \u00a0Hello.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: \u00a0Hello, Rush. \u00a0Good afternoon, and happy Memorial Day.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: \u00a0Thank you, sir. \u00a0Same to you.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: \u00a0Thank you very much. \u00a0Hey, Rush, I want to kind of turn away from politics if I could and ask you a question that I\u2019ve been really kind of dying to ask you for a long time. And it has to do with your career as a disc jockey when you started out your career in radio. \u00a0You know, one thing I have noticed &#8212; and it has to do just specifically about music, I\u2019m curious, my question is, what has happened to the quality of pop and R&amp;B music that was present in the late sixties and early seventies that has never been able to be reproduced in pop and R&amp;B music since that time?<\/p>\n<p>The people I\u2019m speaking of are like Al Green, the Detroit Spinners, Stylistics, there is that kind of great period of music that still endeared to this day, and it\u2019s my belief that pop music has never reached that height anymore. \u00a0And I even see that reflected in comments from younger people that I hear who are acquainted with that music that you used to spin, but they say, &#8220;I wish I could have grown up in that era. I just wish we had that kind of music.&#8221; \u00a0There\u2019s just not those types of names like Barry White anymore. And I\u2019m curious, I have a theory on it, but I\u2019m curious from your point of view, as someone who was in that arena, why that is.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/web-dev03.bur1.premiereradio.net:8150\/pages\/static\/grooveyard_of_forgotten_favorites\"><img id=\"eZObject_123062\" class=\"img_middle\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/RushGrooveyard.jpg\" align=\"middle\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>RUSH: \u00a0Well, you know, a lot of this is generational. \u00a0My parents, when the Beatles hit, were asking, &#8220;Why aren\u2019t there people like Frank Sinatra anymore?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: \u00a0Yes. \u00a0Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: \u00a0So part of this is just generational. \u00a0You\u2019re specifically asking about R&amp;B and how did it morph from that to hip-hop and rap?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: \u00a0Yeah, and, you know, that is like a classic, you know, when you &#8212; Al Green, you know, it\u2019s like a classic R&amp;B.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: \u00a0Oh, yeah, the artists. There\u2019s Roberta Flack. There\u2019s Donny Hathaway.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: \u00a0Right.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: \u00a0There\u2019s James Ingram. \u00a0There is any number of them.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: \u00a0How about the recently deceased Billy Paul?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: \u00a0Oh, yeah, Billy Paul. \u00a0Billy Paul had one of the greatest versions of Your Song.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/22jMZdBUzDI\" width=\"585\" height=\"335\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe>CALLER: \u00a0Oh.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: \u00a0That was on the Me and Mrs. Jones album, and Me and Mrs. Jones is one of the great, all-time classics about adultery.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: \u00a0Oh, God, yes.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: \u00a0Classy adultery, if there is such a thing. \u00a0Lush production. \u00a0You had the whole Philadelphia sound. \u00a0You mentioned it. \u00a0You had Gamble and Huff, right, producing stuff &#8212; and you had Motown.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/mWOTdt9Bovk\" width=\"585\" height=\"335\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe>CALLER: \u00a0Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: \u00a0And Patti Austin. \u00a0Sadao Watanabe and Patti, a great crossover duet: Any Other Fool. Look, you know, I just chalk it up to generational. \u00a0I think the popularity of sixties, seventies, and, in some cases, eighties music, radio stations still play it. Satellite\u2019s still devoted to it. \u00a0It still has an audience. \u00a0Obviously, it\u2019s a different quality. \u00a0But I don\u2019t know why. \u00a0I mean, why does music change in any generation?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: \u00a0Well, even, you know &#8212;<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/y4lRnDPkbGQ\" width=\"585\" height=\"335\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe>RUSH: \u00a0What\u2019s your theory? \u00a0What is yours?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: \u00a0Okay, I\u2019m a musician, and I have a theory from a musical standpoint. \u00a0At that time, you had different influences of music that were all present. \u00a0You had talent that was available from the gospel, singers of gospel music. You had the jazz era, and you also had classical. And I kind of feel that all three of those integrated into one sound that used strings.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: \u00a0That would explain Barry White, Love Unlimited Orchestra. Right.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: \u00a0Yeah, the orchestral part, the jazz influence. \u00a0You know, there\u2019s a lot of great jazz players at that time. \u00a0And then the real soul that I felt, that\u2019s from gospel. \u00a0And I felt the kind of&#8230; This is maybe&#8230; I\u2019d like your opinion, really, on this last point, is that that was also the period when the Vietnam War was going on, and I\u2019m wondering if that was some emotional kind of &#8212; was an emotional catalyst.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: \u00a0Well, it might have been. That\u2019s an excellent point, because you go back and listen to Marvin Gaye in the 1960s, all love songs. In 1971, Marvin Gaye comes out with an album called What\u2019s Going On.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: \u00a0Yeah, I know that.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/H-kA3UtBj4M\" width=\"585\" height=\"335\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe>RUSH: \u00a0It\u2019s all about war, it\u2019s all about death. And Edwin Starr, Motown, comes out with a song called War. &#8220;What is it good for?&#8221; \u00a0So the Vietnam War, there\u2019s no question it served as a transition &#8212; lyrically, anyway &#8212; from going to sweet, beautiful love ballads into social commentary songs that were still R&amp;B in flavor.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: \u00a0Yeah.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/dpWmlRNfLck\" width=\"585\" height=\"335\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe>RUSH: \u00a0And people have said, &#8220;Well, you know, Rush, rap is the result of real circumstances in ghetto neighborhoods and how to get out of there and what you had to do to survive and so forth.&#8221; But the Watts Riots were going on when all this music you\u2019re talking about was being produced. \u00a0The Watts Riots were 1968, and some of the great R&amp;B stuff you\u2019re talking about dates back to then. \u00a0But I know exactly the music you\u2019re talking about. \u00a0I can\u2019t explain the metamorphosis of it. \u00a0Who can explain the culture? Nobody can predict it.<\/p>\n<p>You look back, and I\u2019m sure, if somebody wanted to do a study, they could find it. \u00a0What\u2019s the first rap group that really put themselves on the map with it? The Sugarhill Gang. \u00a0But then you had the NWA guys with the kill-the-cops stuff, before Run-DMC. \u00a0The early rappers were just rhythm rappers. \u00a0There wasn\u2019t a whole lot of social commentary in it, but it didn\u2019t take long for that to evolve. \u00a0But, look, bottom line: I miss it. \u00a0I still listen to all that stuff, because I can still hear that. I listen to it \u2019cause all of that &#8212; even though I\u2019ve lost my hearing &#8212; my memory, my brain supplies the melody.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/rKTUAESacQM\" width=\"585\" height=\"335\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe>My memory supplies the melody when I listen to that stuff, and it remains the exact R&amp;B-type music you\u2019re talking about. It remains many of my all-time favorites. \u00a0Sister Sledge and Nile Rodgers back then with Chic, one of my all-time favorite sounds, and Gamble and Huff; then you had Harold Melvin &amp; the Blue Notes. Remember all that stuff? <iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/h1qQ1SKNlgY\" width=\"585\" height=\"335\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><a href=\"http:\/\/web-dev03.bur1.premiereradio.net:8150\/pages\/static\/grooveyard_of_forgotten_favorites\">Just classically good stuff<\/a>. I don\u2019t know rap. I need closed-captioning to even understand it anymore. \u00a0But it\u2019s now taken over. \u00a0I mean, hip-hop is it, right? \u00a0When it comes to Top 40 on pop, hit radio. \u00a0Anyway, Edward, that\u2019s great. \u00a0I\u2019m glad you held on, and I appreciate it.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m a little long. \u00a0I have to go because we\u2019re out of time.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>Yeah, here we go, Marvin Gaye, What\u2019s Going On.\u00a0 And you know there was another tune on this album called Mercy, Mercy Me, that was the same thing. It was an anti-war tune. Yeah, Mercy, Mercy Me was our&#8230; You\u2019re right. It was environmental.\u00a0 Mercy, Mercy Me was environmental.\u00a0 This is anti-war.\u00a0 And, you know, this is Marvin Gaye coming off, I Heard it Through the Grapevine.\u00a0 I mean, he went from R&amp;B love ballads to message music in a jiffy. Yeah, I think he did. He went back to sex.\u00a0 What was that? Something something part one?\u00a0 Let\u2019s Get It On, yeah.\u00a0 The whole thing is just a bass line. The whole song is a bass line.\u00a0 You barely hear what he is singing in the mix.<\/p>\n<\/section>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>RUSH: Here\u2019s Edward, Washington, DC. \u00a0Great you called, Edward. \u00a0Hello. CALLER: \u00a0Hello, Rush. \u00a0Good afternoon, and happy Memorial Day. RUSH: \u00a0Thank you, sir. \u00a0Same to you. 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