{"id":214413,"date":"2016-09-14T18:12:46","date_gmt":"2016-09-14T22:12:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/172.24.32.11\/daily\/2016\/09\/14\/we_can_debate_whether_trump_s_child_care_proposal_is_conservative_or_not_but_politically_it_s_a_home_run\/"},"modified":"2017-07-17T10:25:41","modified_gmt":"2017-07-17T14:25:41","slug":"we_can_debate_whether_trump_s_child_care_proposal_is_conservative_or_not_but_politically_it_s_a_home_run","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2016\/09\/14\/we_can_debate_whether_trump_s_child_care_proposal_is_conservative_or_not_but_politically_it_s_a_home_run\/","title":{"rendered":"We Can Debate Whether Trump\u2019s Child Care Proposal Is Conservative or Not &#8212;  But Politically It\u2019s a Home Run"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/videos\/37\/73131\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/listentoit.jpg\" alt=\"Listen to it Button\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<section>RUSH: Richard in Lee\u2019s Summit, Missouri, outside Kansas City.\u00a0 Great to have you, sir.\u00a0 Glad you waited.\u00a0 Hi.CALLER:\u00a0 Hey, Rush, proud Navy dad dittos to you, sir.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH:\u00a0 Thank you very much.\u00a0 I appreciate that.\u00a0 Same to you.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER:\u00a0 Hey, a lot of purist conservatives have started to criticize Trump\u2019s proposed child care and paid leave for the parents.\u00a0 Before they get too all bothered about that, I want them to consider that Donald Trump\u2019s proposal for child care and maternity leave, that promotes and strengthening the family that we\u2019re always talking about being so important. By making it easier on the parents to have paid time off and child care costs and tax-free savings accounts they could roll over for college, all of that just builds the family.\u00a0 And it\u2019s something we need to consider if we\u2019re talking about the family being so important, we can invest in families that need help up to a certain extent where he\u2019s gonna put the cutoffs and everything. But I think that would just really go so far in helping rebuild our society\u2019s fabric.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" id=\"eZObject_127508\" class=\"img_middle\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Ivanka-TRUTH.jpg\" align=\"middle\" \/>RUSH:\u00a0 So to summarize, I\u2019ll ask you a question.\u00a0 You are not at all concerned about the nature and the substance of Trump\u2019s entitlement, his new entitlement proposal to use government money to shore up the family?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER:\u00a0 Yeah.\u00a0 I mean, I\u2019m a fiscal conservative, and I\u2019m voting for Trump and, you know, I think that we spend so much money on studies and research and grants and things like that, we can invest in the family, the fabric of society.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH:\u00a0 See, here\u2019s&#8230; Okay.\u00a0 Richard, I appreciate the call.\u00a0 Thank you very much.\u00a0 There\u2019s ideology and there\u2019s politics, and sometimes they intersect.\u00a0 Sometimes ideology and politics come together and it is a beautiful thing.\u00a0 Sometimes the ideology guides the politics.\u00a0 Other times the politics and the ideology may get close but they don\u2019t intersect.\u00a0 Which is what we have here.\u00a0 We have Trump via his daughter\u2019s op-ed in the Wall Street Journal today advocating a new child care and family policy using the federal government, which is not conservative ideologically.<\/p>\n<p>But neither was George W. Bush\u2019s Medicare Part B, and a lot of conservatives got mad at that, too, at the same time.\u00a0 But this episode has given ammo to all the conservatives who have been opposed to Trump from the beginning. They\u2019ve been saying, &#8220;You guys, you\u2019re falling for it! This guy\u2019s not one of us. He\u2019s not a conservative. He\u2019s a Big Government guy, and you are gonna get fooled.&#8221; Now they\u2019re saying, &#8220;See?\u00a0 We told you,&#8221; with this proposal.\u00a0 But a lot of Trump supporters aren\u2019t going to care because the ideology and the politics, they don\u2019t meet up here; they don\u2019t care.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Mr. Snerdley said to me the last caller was from a guy who had no problem with Trump\u2019s new so-called entitlement, his new child care, family entitlement, no problem with it whatsoever.\u00a0 The guy said, &#8220;Hey, look, if they\u2019re gonna be passing around federal money, we gotta come to grips with it, Rush. If they\u2019re gonna give out federal money, isn\u2019t it about time we got some,&#8221; meaning us, we conservatives.<\/p>\n<p>And Snerdley said, &#8220;I thought you would just jump on that guy and just destroy that guy.&#8221;\u00a0 Well, one thing, I didn\u2019t have time.\u00a0 I wasn\u2019t even inclined to destroy the guy.\u00a0 I know exactly where he\u2019s coming from.\u00a0 I know who the Trump supporters are.\u00a0 I know how they think.\u00a0 And they\u2019re not thinking ideologically.\u00a0 We are so far beyond that on the Trump side of things, and I still don\u2019t know why that\u2019s so hard for people to understand.\u00a0 Maybe it is not hard to understand.\u00a0 Maybe they just don\u2019t accept it because the ideological route is what sustains them.<\/p>\n<p>But let\u2019s &#8212; (interruption) no, we\u2019ll get to the Mehmet Oz, it is Dr. Oz stuff and Trump and CNN here in just a second.<\/p>\n<p>But let\u2019s focus on this proposal that actually appears as an op-ed by Ivanka Trump in the Wall Street Journal today and just give you a little flavor for it.\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wsj.com\/articles\/ivanka-trump-my-fathers-plan-for-working-moms-1473852480\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">&#8220;The Trump Plan Will Help Working Mothers.&#8221;<\/a> That is the headline to Ivanka\u2019s piece in the Wall Street Journal.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" id=\"eZObject_127517\" class=\"img_middle\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/TrumpfamilyPodium-585.jpg\" align=\"middle\" \/>And she starts it this way:\u00a0 &#8220;For me, motherhood is a gift and a tremendous source of joy. Yet it\u2019s also the greatest predictor of wage inequality in our country. In 2014, single women without children earned 94 cents on a man\u2019s dollar. Married mothers made only 81 cents.&#8221;\u00a0 Now, right there I can hear the shouted objections.\u00a0 &#8220;Not true!\u00a0 Not true, whether you say 70 cents, 73 cents, it\u2019s been pretty much taken care of.\u00a0 There isn\u2019t this great disparity anymore.&#8221;\u00a0 I hear you.\u00a0 We\u2019ll deal with it in just a second.<\/p>\n<p>Then Ivanka writes, &#8220;We all agree that women should have equal pay for equal work, but that\u2019s not enough. The lack of quality, affordable child care is one of the biggest challenges facing American parents. The current federal policies created to benefit families were written more than 65 years ago when dual-income families were not the norm.&#8221;\u00a0 &#8216;Cause they weren\u2019t necessary.\u00a0 I added that, by the way.\u00a0 She didn\u2019t write they weren\u2019t necessary.\u00a0 I added that.\u00a0 And they used to not be.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Today, however, in about two-thirds of married couples, both spouses work. In addition, 70% of mothers with children under 18 work outside the home; so do 64% of moms with kids under age 6. The number of households led by single mothers has doubled in the past three decades, and the majority of these women work in low-paying jobs without flexibility or benefits. My father, in his campaign for president, has proposed a plan to bring federal policies in line with the needs of today\u2019s working parents.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>And here we get to the policy proposal, the substance.\u00a0 &#8220;Part one is a rewrite of the tax code, allowing working parents to deduct from their income taxes child care expenses for up to four children, as well as for elderly dependents,&#8221; which is if Mamaw, Nanaw, and Paw Paw live with you.\u00a0 &#8220;This will be capped at the average cost of child care in each family\u2019s state, and the wealthiest individuals will not be eligible for the deduction.&#8221;\u00a0 She didn\u2019t say that, did she?\u00a0 I can hear the catcalls now.\u00a0 &#8220;The benefit is structured to ensure that working- and middle-class families see the largest reductions in their taxable incomes.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" id=\"eZObject_127521\" class=\"img_right\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/567072599_large.jpg\" align=\"right\" \/>Snerdley, a quick question.\u00a0 How many people do you think know the difference in a tax deduction and a tax credit?\u00a0 Just a little pop quiz question.\u00a0 I would say not many.\u00a0 I\u2019d say not many.\u00a0 I\u2019ll explain the difference here in just a second.\u00a0 Let me keep on here with her piece, because she\u2019s proposing tax deductions.\u00a0 A tax deduction lowers your taxable income.\u00a0 A tax credit, it\u2019s like a credit anywhere else.\u00a0 Somebody gives you a gift card to the Apple store. Okay, you got a 50 dollar gift card, you\u2019ve got a 50 dollar credit with Apple. You go in there and buy 50 bucks of stuff, you give \u2019em the card and whoever bought the card is paying for it.\u00a0 Not you.\u00a0 It doesn\u2019t reduce your taxable income.\u00a0 It\u2019s in this way the earned income tax credit &#8212; this is how people that don\u2019t pay taxes actually get a tax refund, because of the tax credit.\u00a0 But they\u2019re proposing tax deductions.<\/p>\n<p>She writes, &#8220;To bring meaningful assistance to lower-income Americans who don\u2019t pay income tax, the Trump plan will offer rebates on child-care spending through the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC).&#8221;\u00a0 This is why I asked how many people know the difference.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;In a nation where almost two-thirds of mothers with children under age six are employed, child care is an undisputed work-related expense. In business, other such expenditures are tax-deductible. This single reform under the Trump plan will effectively increase the take-home pay for tens of millions of American parents. And what if one parent staying home to raise the children is the best option for a family? This is the praiseworthy choice of many, yet there\u2019s zero value or recognition by our government for this hard and meaningful work. Under my father\u2019s proposal, stay-at-home parents will receive the same tax deduction as their working peers.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Okay, but why is this a government concern in the first place?\u00a0 Why is there zero value or recognition by our government for the hard work of raising kids?\u00a0 Why is that a government concern, period?\u00a0 What does it matter whether the government recognizes it or not and supports it one way or another via the tax code?\u00a0 I thought we were about getting government out of our lives.\u00a0 What is all of this, having government recognize the value of child rearing?\u00a0 I\u2019m just telling you I hear the objections.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The plan\u2019s second part is the establishment of Dependent Care Savings Accounts, created to aid families in setting aside extra money to foster their children\u2019s development and offset elder care for adult dependents. These accounts will operate like Health Savings Accounts, with tax-deductible contributions and tax-free appreciation year to year. When established for a minor, funds from a Dependent Care Savings Account can be applied to traditional child care, after-school enrichment programs and school tuition.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/DRrrVgHK8EI\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;To help lower-income parents, the government will match half of the first $1,000 deposited each year. Balances in a Dependent Care Savings Account will roll over from year to year so that a substantial amount of money can be accrued over time. &#8230; The third part of the plan will address the federal regulations that currently discourage informal child-care &#8212; such as a mom watching her own kids and a few others in her home. Arrangements such as these are not now given fair consideration by our federal bureaucracy, which is biased in favor of institutional care. We need to create a dynamic marketplace to offer solutions and give parents greater freedom of choice.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Now, let me tell you what this is about, \u2019cause this one could skate by you.\u00a0 You ever heard of the Smart Start program?\u00a0 You know what it is?\u00a0 The Smart Start program is &#8212; look, just to make this brief, it is a quasi, kind of like Head Start or early day care run by the federal government.\u00a0 The Smart Start program has actually made sure that there isn\u2019t any competition in child care.<\/p>\n<p>What I think Ivanka is talking about here is the circumstance where you have a mother at home watching her own kids and helping out others friends of hers &#8212; other people in the neighborhood &#8212; by watching their kids while other moms are at work, and this is essentially what the Smart Start program does.\u00a0 You deposit your kid at the Smart Start location, you go about your day, and the government has control of your kids.<\/p>\n<p>The government\u2019s educating them, the government\u2019s inculcating them &#8212; the government\u2019s doing this &#8212; and it\u2019s portrayed as a benefit.\u00a0 Her point is that there are a lot of mothers doing the same thing, the equivalent of doing it in the private sector but not being compensated, and they can\u2019t effectively be compensated because who can compete with the federal government and a program like Smart Start?\u00a0 Smart Start does not get any kid ahead.\u00a0 Head Start doesn\u2019t get any kid ahead.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" id=\"eZObject_127520\" class=\"img_right\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/505935785_large.jpg\" align=\"right\" \/>None of these government child care programs do anything but create a bunch of young bunch of little liberals, future liberals running around.\u00a0 So what to make of this?\u00a0 I\u2019m like a lot of people. I\u2019ve got mixed reactions to this.\u00a0 Politically, this is why I started by saying there\u2019s ideology and there\u2019s politics. I have to admit that politics, at this stage of our country\u2019s existence, where we are&#8230; Let me ask you pointblank: Do you think the argument over big versus small government\u2019s still going on, or do you think it\u2019s over?\u00a0 And if you think it\u2019s over, who won?<\/p>\n<p>How many people do you know whose vote is predicated largely or maybe totally on which candidate swears to get government out of as much of life as possible, and who is that candidate?\u00a0 I would maintain to you that, in this cycle, we have two candidates representing the two major parties, neither of which is conservative.\u00a0 I don\u2019t think the Republican Party is conservative.\u00a0 Maybe it is if compared to the Democrats.\u00a0 Certainly it would be.<\/p>\n<p>But if you are defining conservatism honestly and strictly, we don\u2019t have a conservative political party.\u00a0 We have two candidates representing two major parties, neither of which is conservative, the parties or the nominees, safe to assume.\u00a0 So if you look at Trump\u2019s plan for child care, maternity leave, elderly care, you could sit there and lament all day, &#8220;Oh, gosh, see?\u00a0 This is exactly why we needed Cruz! We wouldn\u2019t even be messing with this.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;If it was Cruz, we wouldn\u2019t have to wade through all this &#8216;maybe,\u2019 &#8216;if,\u2019 or &#8216;what\u2019 stuff.\u00a0 We\u2019d just have a 10% flat tax, put everybody under it, and get rid of virtually all deductions and just end the government paying people to do this and not paying people to do that.&#8221;\u00a0 But we don\u2019t have that.\u00a0 Ted Cruz didn\u2019t win.\u00a0 We have what we have, and the politics of this right now&#8230; My assessment is, for Trump, I think the politics and the impact for Trump is pure gold right now.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH:\u00a0 Look, bottom line: I am the last person on earth who wants any expansion of the government.\u00a0 But I am also the first person on earth to understand that we have a mess in child care because of government and because of the left.\u00a0 We have a mess.\u00a0 As I read through Ivanka\u2019s piece, it seems to me that there\u2019s more weight given to lowering taxes &#8212; tax deductions for child and elderly care. It seems like that\u2019s every bit as important in her plan, Trump\u2019s plan, as is the expansion of government.<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s another way of looking at this, too, folks.\u00a0 In looking at Trump\u2019s plan for child care and maternity leave and elderly care, conservatives can lament that it\u2019s not the Ted Cruz plan.\u00a0 &#8220;Oh, my God! If this was Cruz, we\u2019d have 10% flat tax and be done and there wouldn\u2019t be any of this mess.&#8221;\u00a0 You can look at it that way as, &#8220;Oh, what if,&#8221; or you can look at the Trump plan and describe what it does and compare it to Hillary\u2019s, assuming she presents one after recovering from what may be the mildest case of pneumonia in history.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" id=\"eZObject_127522\" class=\"img_right\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Cruz_large.jpg\" align=\"right\" \/>That, it seems to me, is what the comparison needs to be.\u00a0 Other than an intellectual exercise, you can\u2019t say, &#8220;Oh, what could have been! Oh, how bad! Oh, I told you!&#8221; I know there\u2019s a whole bunch of I told you so\u2019s out there, but I think politically&#8230; You wait.\u00a0 I think just for people that are not ideological &#8212; which is a hell of a lot of people in this country. I think they\u2019re gonna respond so positively to this, and it\u2019s gonna disappoint a lot of people.\u00a0 &#8220;Oh, my God, do people not even understand the whole concept of Big Government destroying the country?&#8221;\u00a0 They don\u2019t, folks.\u00a0 They don\u2019t look at it the way you and I do in that regard.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Back to this Trump plan here.\u00a0 &#8216;Cause it\u2019s dicey.\u00a0 &#8216;Cause, as I say, I\u2019m the last person on earth who wants any expansion of government.\u00a0 I\u2019ll also tell you this.\u00a0 All of these government-run Head Start, Smart Start, all these programs where they take toddlers and they put \u2019em into government-run programs and so forth, totally state and federal supported government programs, there\u2019s billions of dollars spent on this stuff every year that they end up indoctrinating babies, essentially, and there isn\u2019t any consistent evidence that this housing of children has any effect on their futures in school.<\/p>\n<p>The whole point here is to get \u2019em head started so they start learning sooner in school.\u00a0 And it\u2019s like anything else government does, when government actually takes over and run something like Flint, Michigan, or Detroit, you want to get out.\u00a0 So I have huge problems with all of these Head Start programs, and the Trump plan specifically addresses them and has a conversion for converting them to or a plan for converting them to private sectors, where the same money being spent on the federally run programs would be spent on these neighborhood programs run by individual Americans.<\/p>\n<p>Another thing Trump could say.\u00a0 He could say he\u2019s gonna pay for this by eliminating welfare payments to illegal aliens, illegal immigrants.\u00a0 There\u2019s any number of ways of pitching this as revenue neutral, if he wants to.\u00a0 The allowances for tax break for caring for elderly people, actual firsthand experience here, that could be a blessing to a lot of people.\u00a0 And I\u2019ll tell you why.\u00a0 It\u2019s not just abortion where the left seeks to eliminate life.\u00a0 It\u2019s at the elderly end of the spectrum as well.<\/p>\n<p>And, in large part, people go along with it, you know what the cost is, you know what medical costs are, the vast majority of any individual\u2019s medical expenses occur in late life, where there isn\u2019t any hope for a cure, this kind of thing.\u00a0 Families can\u2019t afford, they can\u2019t get insurance for it, it\u2019s an absolute mess.\u00a0 And the government once again has come in and jacked around in all of this.\u00a0 And, like most everything else the government tries to run &#8212; I\u2019m not talking about paying for, but the actual things they run, they don\u2019t run anything well, by definition.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" id=\"eZObject_127523\" class=\"img_middle\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Trump-Make-America-Great-MAP.jpg\" align=\"middle\" \/>One other aspect of Trump\u2019s proposal here.\u00a0 You could also say that what it is is a manipulation of the tax code, a manipulation of existing programs to the benefit of people who at present do not benefit.\u00a0 This is why I think politically this thing is gonna be a home run.\u00a0 I think you\u2019re gonna have a lot of people who have concluded that the government is involved.\u00a0 The argument over small government, nonexistent government, they\u2019re way beyond that.\u00a0 They\u2019re looking at who the government\u2019s helping and who isn\u2019t being helped.<\/p>\n<p>And in large measure, they don\u2019t think that people violating the law ought to be the beneficiaries of government support to the point of being totally provided for.\u00a0 So with the manipulation of the tax code and existing programs and the creation of these savings accounts, which, by the way, the savings account, let me tell you something, I don\u2019t care if it\u2019s a school voucher, or if it\u2019s a health care savings account or now this savings account, are those not the hallmarks of every conservative think tank you have ever heard of?\u00a0 Are those things not the exact proposals we get from conservative think tanks all over the place?<\/p>\n<p>My point is that all of a sudden now it\u2019s become a government entitlement.\u00a0 When Trump proposes it, people are calling it an entitlement, an expansion of government.\u00a0 But when certain other people propose these savings accounts, why, that\u2019s reform, why, that\u2019s conservative values being commingled with existing programs and blah, blah.\u00a0 So it just depends on who\u2019s doing the judging here.\u00a0 I think that\u2019s always kind of been in the weeds anyway, to try to define conservatism for average, ordinary people as a school voucher plan, which I love the school voucher plan, and, by the way, so do people who benefit from \u2019em.<\/p>\n<p>But a lot of this has occurred to the benefit of the kind of thinking that comes out of think tanks, which is okay, fine.\u00a0 I don\u2019t want to get into a fight with those people.\u00a0 My only point here is that Trump has proposed one of his own savings accounts and people are calling it an entitlement, whereas the same people calling it an entitlement propose their own savings accounts and nobody calls it an entitlement.\u00a0 Am I right or am I wrong about this?<\/p>\n<p>I mean, the health care savings account.\u00a0 It\u2019s a great idea.\u00a0 Nobody calls it an entitlement, but they would if Trump proposed it, because they want to try to discredit it.\u00a0 Well, they do work.\u00a0 The health care savings account works, the school voucher plans work, any of these others.\u00a0 The health care savings accounts is very simple.\u00a0 You take the amount of money we spend on you anyway for health care and we give it to you, put it in a saving account, and then you buy your own treatment.\u00a0 You buy your insurance, you buy your treatment.<\/p>\n<p>The theory is, when you\u2019re using your money and it\u2019s a finite amount of money in your account, you\u2019re gonna shop.\u00a0 You\u2019re gonna try to find the best deal, even if it\u2019s health care.\u00a0 Because you don\u2019t want to spend all that, because you get to keep what\u2019s left over.\u00a0 That\u2019s the other part of the deal, you get to keep it, it rolls over.\u00a0 So you shop around.\u00a0 This theoretically introduces competition where none exists now.\u00a0 This, in theory, introduces market forces to a circumstance, health care, which is totally dominated by government and health insurance companies.<\/p>\n<p>It is a great idea.\u00a0 Totally great idea.\u00a0 And it\u2019s called conservative, great conservative idea, when it\u2019s proposed by those people.\u00a0 Trump proposes his and all of a sudden it\u2019s become an entitlement, an expansion of government and so forth.\u00a0 It just depends on who\u2019s describing it and whether they support Trump or don\u2019t, in large measure.<\/p>\n<p>But, these approaches, Trump\u2019s approach on the savings account side has always, always, always been called conservative, is my point.\u00a0 But now there are some people who now want to say it isn\u2019t.\u00a0 No, I\u2019m just observing, pure and simple, just observing.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" id=\"eZObject_127524\" class=\"img_middle\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/Trump-Iowa-825-B2.jpg\" align=\"middle\" \/>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH:\u00a0 No, no, no, no.\u00a0 I am fully aware.\u00a0 You can\u2019t get any of this stuff past me.\u00a0 I am fully aware there\u2019s all kinds of Republicans and conservatives reacting to this Trump proposal, and they\u2019re practically shouting it, they don\u2019t want to pay for other people\u2019s day care.\u00a0 When is this gonna stop?\u00a0 Why are we just transferring who gets paid?\u00a0 When is this gonna stop?\u00a0 It\u2019s not the job of the government to pay for my health care, for your children\u2019s health care, your child rearing.\u00a0 That\u2019s your responsibility.\u00a0 Why the hell do I have to pay for it?\u00a0 I hear all of that.<\/p>\n<p>Well, here\u2019s the sad reality.\u00a0 We have been paying for other people\u2019s child care for decades now.\u00a0 We\u2019ve been doing worse than that.\u00a0 We\u2019ve been doing more than that.\u00a0 We\u2019ve been paying some people to have kids.\u00a0 We\u2019ve been paying other people not to have \u2019em.\u00a0 We have been raising kids.\u00a0 The federal government has become the father in many families, and this has been going on for decades now.\u00a0 And it\u2019s nothing more than federal regulated indoctrination.<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s a reality in our world today, and it is parents have to work, those that can find jobs.\u00a0 And the odds are both of them are going to.\u00a0 And I happen to support the whole concept of strong families and encouraging work.\u00a0 These are not easy questions for people ideologically inclined.\u00a0 But I\u2019m telling you, I think Trump\u2019s supporters here are gonna just embrace this out the wazoo, to the frustration of countless Republicans and conservatives who have devoted their lives to the whole concept of educating people how government doing all this kind of stuff is bad no matter who gets the benefit.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, this is Lana in St. Augustine, Florida. 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She was involved in a very bad accident. I had to send my kid to a day care type facility. It cost me $400 a month after-tax money.\u00a0 I wasn\u2019t able to write that off previously because they said my wife didn\u2019t work.\u00a0 Well, she couldn\u2019t work, she was in the hospital.\u00a0 So how could she have worked?\u00a0 So I think this plan is great.\u00a0 I think the presentation was phenomenal with his daughter.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH:\u00a0 Yeah.\u00a0 My instincts are that politically for Trump that this is gonna be a big hit.\u00a0 But there are going to be others looking at it ideologically who are gonna say, &#8220;We told you so! 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