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RUSH: Well, no, no, no. I understand. Hey, we are so far away from turning into the Democrats, based on where they are right now, that doesn\u2019t concern me. If there is any concern on this, that I have, it is I think you represent a large body of thought in the country. If you go back to Arizona, Arizona had Proposition 200, which was designed basically to allow illegals to come in and access the healthcare system in Arizona. John McCain wrote an op-ed in the paper out there saying it was a stupid thing. It passed. It passed by — What was it? — almost 60%, and 44% of immigrants voted the right way on this. It\u2019s clearly something that people in Arizona, New Mexico, California, Texas wanted. It\u2019s a huge issue to a lot of people. What I\u2019m trying to do is understand it, and as best I can understand it, it boils down to being a temporary worker program with amnesty, and it\u2019s based on the assumption that we can\u2019t round up thousands and thousands and thousands of illegals and deport them. <\/p>\n

It\u2019s based on the fact that that\u2019s impractical, that that wouldn\u2019t work, that it\u2019s not a picture that we want seen, and that it\u2019s not a step that we\u2019re prepared to take. So they\u2019re here, and let\u2019s do what we can to authenticate them, identify them, match them up with their employers, and then give them a temporary card that legalizes them, and then after a passage of time, forces them to make up their minds. Are you going to stay? If so, then become legal. If not, then you go. I think that\u2019s pretty much it, although there may be variations of this on either side of it. But the president made it plain in the debate. He referred to these people as ‘temporary workers,\u2019 but no amnesty. In fact, let\u2019s go back. He was asked, ‘What should we do about the 8,000 people that cross our borders illegally every day?\u2019 <\/p>\n

His answer was: ‘We are increasing the border security of the U.S. There ought to be a temporary worker card that allows a willing worker and a willing employer, so long as there\u2019s not an American willing to do that job, to join up. I don\u2019t believe we ought to have amnesty. I don\u2019t think we ought to reward illegal behavior. There are plenty of people standing in line to become citizens. If they want to become a citizen, they can stand in line too — and here\u2019s where my opponent and I differ. In September 2003 he supported amnesty for illegal aliens.\u2019 So the president said, ‘I don\u2019t believe we ought to have amnesty.\u2019 I misspoke earlier when I thought I\u2019d heard him say that during the debates. Clearly, this is something that a lot of the American people are fed up with, and when you put it in the context of national security, when you put it in the context of protecting the borders so that terrorists can\u2019t find an easy way to immigrate. Let\u2019s face it, not everybody that gets in is going to try to find an employer in the first place. <\/p>\n

There are going to be some here that don\u2019t go to work, and one of the problems is, some come here for the express purpose of accessing the so-called safety net, and they do it, and this is infuriating to people. As long as, you know, an undocumented worker is not taking the job that an American is willing to do, you know, that\u2019s one thing, and if you want to find and locate those people and match them up and give them a period of time to get legal, okay. I understand that. But that cannot allow a lax attitude about people that come here illegally without any intention whatsoever of getting a job, being matched up with an employer. Let\u2019s face it, with all these people crossing the border, each and every day, you have to make a reasonable assumption that some of them are up to no good. Some of them are here for all kinds of potential nefarious reasons and they need to be ID\u2019d as well and gotten rid of. The moment they\u2019re found. Here\u2019s Jim in San Diego. You\u2019re next, sir. Hello.<\/line> <\/line>CALLER: Hello, Rush. Mega dittos.<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: Thank you, sir.<\/line><\/p>\n

CALLER: There\u2019s massive enforcement on these borders. I mean, there may be some impression out there — I\u2019m in San Diego. We deal with this every day for years. There is an army, effectively. There\u2019s massive enforcement of these — of these immigration laws, which ought to be enforced, but — but the president says 300,000 people come in a year anyway. I mean, there simply aren\u2019t the resources to do this. So I completely support the president.<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: Wait, wait, wait. There aren\u2019t the resources to do what? Round them up and deport them?<\/line> <\/line>CALLER: Just what you were saying earlier, to round these people up. There are millions, apparently, in the United States right now, and it actually takes human beings who have federal jobs and pensions and so forth to go around and try and find these people. I mean, there simply aren\u2019t the federal resources to do it, and I agree with the president. Let\u2019s give them legal status if they actually have a job here, and after a while like the old Bracero program of 50 years ago, let them go back to Mexico at the end of three years, and this is a very dangerous issue politically because I saw out here Pete Wilson virtually destroy the Republican Party on this issue with Prop 187. And we have the results of it out here right now. We\u2019re a blue state, thanks in some parts to Pete Wilson just jumping right on this thing.<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: Because of immigration is what —<\/line> <\/line>CALLER: Yeah. Well, I\u2019m telling you, whether people like it or not, this kind of activity is viewed as, I hate to say the word as a conservative but this is viewed as racist by the Mexican-American community, and we can cock all we want about having gone from 35% to 44% in the elections. It didn\u2019t happen here in California and it happened in Texas where Bush is very familiar with these problems. He has a sensitivity on both sides of these issues because it\u2019s a problem. It\u2019s a very serious problem going both ways. But there is a serious political cost to this, and it will show up, and people like me and George Bush who live on the border and deal with this and realize that we have bi-cultural societies here, parts of families on both sides of the borders and so forth and so on, it\u2019s not just a cut and dried issue. I am — I and George Bush am completely opposed to illegal crossings, but I am in favor of putting people in a legal status for a temporary time to fill jobs —<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: Okay.<\/line> <\/line>CALLER: — that Americans want them to have.<\/line><\/p>\n

RUSH: Look, that\u2019s okay. Listen, let\u2019s set that aside for a moment. I don\u2019t even want to argue about that. We\u2019re still not talking about the problem of the illegals coming across the border. We can sit here and implement this policy all day long and what we\u2019re going to end up doing is saying, “Come on over, be illegal, we\u2019ll absorb you and we\u2019ll let you find a worker and so forth in and in three years we\u2019ll match you up and if you match up, we\u2019ll put you in line to become a citizen.” Meanwhile, we\u2019re doing nothing about the influx. If we\u2019re going to allow ourselves to be stopped, controlling our borders, because it\u2019s “racist…” You know, I\u2019m tired of acting defensive about this. As a conservative, all my life I\u2019ve been impugned, as we all have: “Racist! Sexist! Bigot! Homophobe!” Screw it! I don\u2019t care what they say! Doing the right thing is what matters here, and it\u2019s not racist anyway to act defensive about it. The president doesn\u2019t have political concerns, all right? The president\u2019s not running for re-election. The president\u2019s got a clear four-year agenda here. He\u2019s not setting up a vice president. There\u2019s nothing he has to be political about, in terms of doing the right thing if he wants to. He doesn\u2019t have to worry about his opinion polls. <\/line>He doesn\u2019t have to worry about whether it\u2019s going to factor into his own re-election or Cheney\u2019s because neither are going to be on the ballot. Now I\u2019m sure he\u2019s got some loyalty to the Republican Party and I\u2019m not saying he shouldn\u2019t and doesn\u2019t. But believe me, if we want to expand our base and if we want to actually stand up for the country and its values. This is an issue that\u2019s made to order here, and if we\u2019re going to kowtow to all this talk, “Well, it\u2019s racist and the usual suspects are going to stand up and call us racist.” I\u2019d say Jesse Jackson\u2019s pretty much been marginalized, folks. I mean, these calls and charges of racism have been made so often that they\u2019re baseless and empty by now, and the same thing is going to happen. It\u2019s not racist to enforce the law. It\u2019s not racist to tell people they\u2019re coming here. Are we supposed to let the charge of racism force us to sit back and have the taxpayers of this country provide healthcare and education for people who don\u2019t even have jobs here and who are here illegally? This business: We\u2019re a bi-culture country; we\u2019re a multi-culture country,” but we actually shouldn\u2019t be. <\/line>There is a dominant — there used to be, anyway — a dominant American culture that immigrants came here and found and learned and became a part of. Too much of this is led to Balkanization. We got this culture living over there; we got this culture living over there; we got that culture living over there. Yeah, it\u2019s a melting pot but the people that came here and formed this country came because there were distinct values in this country they were denied elsewhere. They did not come here and set up their own little quasi-countries within ours, set up their own ways of living, and then get in everybody\u2019s face about it. That has been happening for the longest time. Well, I guess pretty long time, 30, 40 years, and it\u2019s simply based on the fact that we got lax and didn\u2019t force people to acculturate into the American system, and there\u2019s nothing wrong with forcing people to do that. It\u2019s actually the greatest benefit they can have by moving here, to acculturate themselves into the United States of America — and the bilingual arguments have been going on all these years and it\u2019s led to this quasi-Balkanization, but I really sort of flip a switch here when I — when I\u2019m told that we can\u2019t do this or do that because they\u2019re going to call us racist. I know. They just did. They called us racist throughout this campaign. Bigots, sexists, all this sort of names. I mean, there\u2019s so much hate from the left these days and it\u2019s killing them, not us. None of this makes any sense. These defensive measures, “Don\u2019t do it because what are they going to see about it! Don\u2019t do it because of what the charges are going to be! Don\u2019t do it because of the politics of it!” Redefine the politics of it. Redefine what the right thing is to do, to heck with the politics of it. That\u2019s what I meant earlier by saying, “Okay, look, we\u2019ve won the election but we haven\u2019t won the game,” and there\u2019s a thing that we need to do now, above and beyond just counting the votes, and that is, in addition to realigning the country party-wise, it\u2019s time to get a conservative agenda out there so that it can be seen by all these brand-new people paying attention and understand that it is the way they lead their lives already; it\u2019s time for them to start voting this way.<\/line> It\u2019s time to advance conservatism in this country. It\u2019s time to advance. We\u2019ve got a good start here, but just because we won the election doesn\u2019t mean it\u2019s time to say, “Okay, we won.” Now we go back to trying to get along with these people. That\u2019s not how we got where we are. They don\u2019t want to get along with us. I\u2019m not talking about the immigrants. I\u2019m talking about the liberal opposition, which claims to speak for these people. But you have these immigrants come into this country. Those that do get acculturated and those that do find work and do become citizens, they agree with me. They don\u2019t want a bunch of illegals coming in taking their jobs after a while. You know, they become Americans. That\u2019s the whole point here, and I think this is a great opportunity to advance politically, the political concept of Americanism. Call it conservatism or whatever you will. Constitutional liberty — and this is an excellent issue on which to do it. It\u2019s just an opportunity waiting to be embraced by somebody who can make a name and a career on this. We\u2019ll be back on this. Stay with us.<\/line>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/line>RUSH: I have to remind some of you of a little story. Some of you have not probably heard this. It goes a ways back. I was talking to my grandfather, oh, two or three years after this program started so I guess it would be 1990 or \u201991, and he wanted to know what the big issues were that we were talking about. I said, “Pop,” and this is 1990, 91, “Immigration, that\u2019s all anybody wants to talk about it, and they\u2019re fed with it and they are concerned. They\u2019re convinced that this Mexican immigration is going to be the ruination of the country,” and he laughed at me and he said, “You know, it reminds me of my high school debate topic in like 1910.” His high school debate topic in 1910: Resolved: Southern European immigration will destroy America,” and he said, “You know, we argued about it back then and it was at the birth of the country, practically, when all these people were coming in from Southern Europe,” and he meant Italy and Greece and other places. He sort of laughed and he said, “People have just been afraid of this all over the place.” Now, are there any differences between southern European immigration and what\u2019s happening today? <\/line>See, most people\u2019s historical reference begins the day they were born and that\u2019s why a lot of people think they\u2019re living in the worst times ever because they weren\u2019t alive when times were really bad, and so, you know, history, education, is what it is and in some places that\u2019s good; in some places it\u2019s bad but immigration has been a constant in the debate in this country and it\u2019s always had its cadre of people who think it\u2019s going to ruin us — and illegal. I mean, his debate topic, illegal immigration, Southern European illegal immigration will destroy the country. Now it\u2019s immigration from Mexico, the Southern Hemisphere, the militant Islamists and this sort of thing. Is there any difference today? Is there any difference between immigration and who is coming in and immigration in the early 1900s and who was coming in then? And some way say, “Hey, you know, we had all kinds of different criminal gangs and elements that came into this country from their own countries, and then when the Soviet Union blew up, you know, the Russian Mafia ended up operating out of the Bronx and out of Queens and so forth and they quickly took over as the baddest guys in town in New York and that happened in the \u201990s.”<\/line> You read stories about that in the \u201980s and the \u201990s. So is there really any difference today, and of course everybody living today would say, “Hell, yes, there\u2019s a difference! Couldn\u2019t possibly have been as bad back then. Didn\u2019t have nuclear weapons. You can take these variables and throw them into the mix,” but I\u2019ll tell you what, as you ponder that, because it is interesting to ponder, that it\u2019s been a debate and a visceral debate for as long as we\u2019ve had the country. Illegal immigration has just fired people up like you can\u2019t believe. But let\u2019s say that you do conclude, and let\u2019s say that the president — this is hypothetical — will conclude that it\u2019s worse now than it\u2019s ever been and we got to do something about it. All right? So here comes: “Well, we can\u2019t do anything about it, Mr. President. The political ramifications.” I mean, if you single out immigration from a particular country, why, the representatives of that country in this country are going to call us racist and so forth and so on. So how do we deal with this? <\/line>“Well, we need to bring these individual groups in and talk to them. We need to cut deals with these people.” No, no, no. See, that\u2019s where we go wrong in all this. You go wrong if you want to get something done. Let\u2019s say you want to pass a bill or make an outreach to the black community, or the Hispanic community. The tendency in this country is to go to the representatives of those groups. So you\u2019d bring in Al Sharpton or the Reverend Jackson or whoever the presumptive head of the group is and then you go to the Hispanic leaders and bring them in, and all you do is get stonewalled. Okay, then you go to their Congressmen. You go talk to their Congressmen and strike a deal with people that represent them. That\u2019s a mistake too — and I\u2019ll tell you, the lesson for how to get anything done in this country has been taught by countless presidents. It was taught by FDR; it was taught by Ronald Reagan, and it was taught by George Bush in this last election. You know what the lesson is? <\/line>You don\u2019t mess around with members of Congress — I mean, for things like this, you don\u2019t — and you don\u2019t mess around with the individual representatives of these different and disparate constituency groups. You don\u2019t go bring in some labor union leader and say, “Hey, I want the support of your people because he can\u2019t guarantee it anyway. All he\u2019s going to do is want your money and a seat of power at your table. You need to go to the American people.” Yes, my friends, you simply go right to the American people. That\u2019s what Bush did in this campaign, and it worked. It had all the liberals out there trashing Bush left and right, but he just was who he was, presented himself as he is to the American people. Look what happened. Reagan, mainstream press tried to ruin and defile Ronald Reagan\u2019s reputation. He didn\u2019t care. He went right to the American people. He spoke to the American people during his press conferences under the guise of answering questions from Sam Donaldson. Just go to the American people with it. If it\u2019s immigration, go to the American people. Don\u2019t worry about whether you\u2019ll be called racist or not. Go to the American people. Because you know who they are? They\u2019re the voters. And that\u2019s how you get things done. You go to the voters, folks, whatever the issue is. <\/line>END TRANSCRIPT<\/line><\/p>\n

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