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ELIZABETH: Studio City, California (joined in progress): I really called because I\u2019m kind of, I guess disappointed in your boasting of the Minuteman Project and not the president\u2019s guest worker program. I really am disappointed in that. He\u2019s right about Iraq; he was right about Social Security, and he\u2019s right about his immigration program, and I don\u2019t understand why you don\u2019t have senators on there committing to support the president\u2019s guest worker program and why you are perpetuating this idea that if you put more, you know, security on the borders they\u2019ll stop coming. When these are people who are wiling to die to come here.<\/line>RUSH: Whoa, whoa! I didn\u2019t do anything of the sort.<\/line>CALLER: Well sure you did, Rush. Yesterday you did.<\/line>RUSH: I did not. I never said this is going to have a long term impact. I said, “What they\u2019re doing now is working. There are fewer immigrants crossing.”<\/line>CALLER: It\u2019s going to work for, what, two weeks? These are people who are willing to die crossing that desert. They are going to find a way to get past them.<\/line>RUSH: Well, no, they\u2019re not willing to die. That\u2019s why they\u2019re not coming. They think they\u2019re going to die, and the Mexican government is telling them they\u2019re going to die because these wacko Minutemen are going to shoot \u2019em so they\u2019re not coming. It\u2019s the exact opposite, but I\u2019m not suggesting that as a policy, don\u2019t misunderstand, and the Minutemen don\u2019t shoot anybody. I\u2019m just saying here that all of a sudden attention has been focused on this — and guess what? The Mexican government is trying to sabotage it by finding alternate routes but they\u2019re not trying to cross where there are monitors to observe it happening. They\u2019re willing to die by accident, they\u2019re willing to die by, you know, asphyxiation in the back of a cheap van or whatever, but they don\u2019t want to get shot.<\/line>CALLER: Even though, Rush, the Border Patrol now is focusing on Jose Mexican who just wants to come here to get a job and not the war to terror and drug smugglers. If they were allowed to come here in a orderly fashion or legally, if much more of them were allowed to come here legally, the Border Patrol could focus it\u2019s resources on terrorists illegally trying to cross and drug smugglers.<\/line>RUSH: Elizabeth, I don\u2019t disagree. That\u2019s so much pie-in-the-sky. Of course nobody opposes legal <\/emphasize>immigration. I don\u2019t oppose legal immigration. I don\u2019t oppose people that want to improve their lives moving here whatsoever. I\u2019m in total support of battening down the hatches when it comes to finding terrorists and bad guys — who, by the way, probably think Mexico is the safest route — probably safer than JFK these days. But I still think that the word here that bothers everybody is illegal, and as more illegals come in the US government keeps throwing up its hands and saying, “We can\u2019t do anything about this.” <\/line><\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, why do they have to come here illegally? Why can\u2019t they just come legally?<\/p>\n

RUSH: We\u2019ve always had limits on it, Elizabeth. We\u2019ve always have limits.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Why do we have to have that limit? There\u2019s a demand. We have to meet the realities of the demand for those workers.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, see, I used to buy into that argument at one point, but I\u2019ve had my mind — no, I did. I\u2019ve had my mind-set straight on this. Any time you are advocating something that supports and maintains low wages, you\u2019re ultimately hurting the American worker as well.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, really? How\u2019s that?<\/p>\n

RUSH: This is no different than a minimum wage. When you establish an artificially low wage, what you do is grant businesses the opportunity to only pay that much.<\/p>\n

CALLER: That\u2019s not what\u2019s happening now. Businesses have so much in taxes, and here in California, the minimum wage is $7 an hour, $7.25. It\u2019s going up to $7.50 next month.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Why not ten?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Exactly, so why finish high school when you make ten dollars an hour working at Wal-Mart?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Why are you bringing Wal-Mart into this?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, that\u2019s what I\u2019m saying. Wal-Mart, you know, baggers whoever, whatever these immigrants are doing at Wal-Mart or a construction job or what have you are making minimum wage.<\/p>\n

RUSH: One of the problems is we\u2019re not weeding out the people you\u2019re talking about. We\u2019re not weeding out the people that want to come here and genuinely improve their lives. What\u2019s happening is that way too many are coming here because they\u2019re being drawn by the magnet of our social welfare safety net or for whatever other reasons and they\u2019re not acculturating and they\u2019re not learning the language and they\u2019re not following the American path to success.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: We have a couple of Minuteman stories here from AP. The first one\u2019s out of Tucson. ‘Three volunteers patrolling the border for illegal immigrants were being investigated after a man told authorities he was held against his will and forced to pose for a picture holding a T-shirt with a mocking slogan. The volunteers said they were members of the Minuteman Project &mdash; a month-long effort… Carol Capas, a sheriff\u2019s office spokeswoman, said the 26-year-old Mexican man told agents he was physically restrained and forced to hold a shirt while his picture was taken and he was videotaped. The shirt read: ‘Bryan Barton caught an illegal alien and all I got was this T-shirt.\u2019 Barton is one of the three volunteers. He told agents that they waved the man over to them, offered him food and water, and gave him the T-shirt and money before the Border Patrol arrived.\u2019 Gave him money. How about that? ‘Meanwhile, Border Patrol apprehensions of illegal immigrants have dropped notably in the Naco area since civilian volunteers began gathering there. Agency spokesmen credit an increased presence by Mexican authorities south of the border and say it\u2019s too soon to tell whether the volunteers are having an impact.\u2019<\/p>\n

Apprehensions are down. The only change is the Minutemen show up because the Minutemen caused the Mexican army to mass on the other side. Whatever. Like Reagan said: Doesn\u2019t matter who gets credit as long as good things happen. Another, just to back the story AP: “The number of Mexican migrants trying to sneak into the United States through the Arizona border has dropped by half since hundreds of…” these vigilante right-wing hit squads. You know they\u2019re being called a “military militia” now by Reuters? Reuters calls them a right-wing militia, is what the Minutemen are. “The number of Mexican migrants trying to sneak into the United States…” Sneak. Sneak! We\u2019re not talking legal here, trying to sneak in. Now that doesn\u2019t mean the migrants have given up though. “Most remain determined to cross and say they\u2019ll simply avoid the area where the Minutemen are. Grupo Beta, a Mexican government sponsored organization that tries to discourage people from crossing illegally and aids those stranded in the desert, began patrolling the area along with state police officers on Sunday when Minutemen anti-immigrant activists began showing up, and in Mexico, the volunteers are seen as hunters of illegals and racists.” In Mexico and Central America the Minutemen are being called racists — and here\u2019s Reuters, “right-wing militia patrolling the Mexican border,” blah, blah, blah. Right-wing militia now. Next thing, you know, they\u2019re all going to be from Michigan. Yeah, and Reuters cannot use the word “terrorists.” Reuters reporters are not allowed to use the word terrorists in describing terrorists but they can call these guys a right-wing militia. <\/line>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/line>RUSH: Macy in Los Angeles, I\u2019m glad you called. Welcome to the program.<\/line>CALLER: Now, look, Rush, I can\u2019t even believe what I\u2019m hearing out of you about this illegal immigration. They\u2019re not assimilating and stuff. You need to go read Thomas Sowell\u2019s study, Cultures and Migration [sic], you hear? Because what you just told that girl is wrong. They said the same thing about the Germans; they said the same thing about the Irish in the 1800s and the 1900s, and those people and their families still here today, and they just fine in America, they assimilated just fine, and they were criticized for the same thing, and the other thing you told that lady —<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: Macy? <\/line>CALLER: — they artificially, they had low wages. That bull. Now, you know that\u2019s bull.<\/line>RUSH: Macy?<\/line>CALLER: What?<\/line>RUSH: I love you. I really do. Let\u2019s take the first of your two points. In fact, let me take a commercial break. Can you hang on throughout commercial break and we can talk further?<\/line>CALLER: Yeah, I\u2019ll wait.<\/line>RUSH: Thanks. I\u2019m looking forward to it.<\/line>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/line>RUSH: Anyway back to Macy now in Los Angeles. Macy, your first pint about assimilation, acculturation and how long this debate has been going on and Dr. Sowell. Can I tell you a little story about my grandfather? My grandfather who was born in the early 1890s. I remember one time I was home when he was still alive back in the early nineties and I was talking to him about it. He said, “What\u2019s really hot and bothered and getting a lot of discussion on your program today?” I said, “Well, people seem to be bothered by immigration.” He said, “You know what my high school debate topic was back in 1908?” I said, “No, what?” “Should we limit, or eliminate immigration by all southern Europeans because they stink. They\u2019re filthy,” blah, blah, blah. Dr. Sowell is exactly right. These debates have gone on for I don\u2019t know how long, but those debates were about legal immigration. Nobody is saying that legal immigrants coming here, that are, you know, following the steps necessary, are not acculturating. It\u2019s the people that are not legal. That\u2019s all anybody is worried about here. Look at how many places now we have to have signs posted in multiple languages here. That\u2019s not acculturation. You know, America has a definite pathway to success, and one of the things you have to do to really succeed in this country is learn to speak the language and those who don\u2019t do that are acculturating.<\/line>CALLER: The more successful they are, the more they assimilate into society, the more incentive they have to — when they legally here, they have incentive to further their education here and further their skills here. That\u2019s what you don\u2019t seem to understand.<\/line>RUSH: No, I think it\u2019s the other way around. I think those who come here with those attitudes are the ones that get successful. I don\u2019t think it\u2019s success that breeds the latter, I think it\u2019s the previous that breeds success.<\/line>CALLER: What?<\/line>RUSH: They come here with the right attitude. They want to acculturate. That\u2019s what gets them on the road to success. I\u2019m not opposed to any of that. I love that. I know we\u2019re a nation of immigrants. There\u2019s so much hypocrisy out there though. Where you live in LA a bunch of people are all for illegal immigrants because they\u2019re drivers and they\u2019re nannies and they don\u2019t have to pay them very much.<\/line>CALLER: No, they got to — yeah, they all for illegal — businesses are for illegal immigrants. But the people are not. The people don\u2019t like it at all, and it\u2019s mostly because of ignorance, because they don\u2019t understand things that Thomas Sowell has talked about and the things that many other economic scholars have talked about, and that\u2019s why I can\u2019t even believe what I\u2019m hearing out of you, Rush Limbaugh, because you are very much a competition and pro-economic guy, and what you seem to be forgetting is that menial labor often produces the startup capital necessary for the successive generations to attain economic mobility.<\/line>RUSH: Macy, wait a minute. You\u2019re not hearing me, now. I\u2019m talking about one classification of immigrant, and that\u2019s illegal.<\/line>CALLER: You\u2019re talking about illegals, but they\u2019re illegals just like (unintelligible) said because they can\u2019t get here legally.<\/line>RUSH: Well, get in line. Now, we can\u2019t let everybody in the country that wants to come here. We just can\u2019t.<\/line>CALLER: If you did you would create a —<\/line>RUSH: You have to stagger the entrants. We can\u2019t flood the market even if they\u2019re legal. We can\u2019t flood the market. It\u2019s gotta happen according to a policy, and the policy should not be based on any kind of discrimination. It just ought to be, “Okay, here\u2019s some rules. You want to come to America this is what you have to do.” Nobody opposes that. But I get calls sometimes on this issue from people in the agriculture business, and they tell me, “If you succeed in this, if you succeed in getting rid of these illegals and so forth, why your food price is going to skyrocket,” and I said, “My taxes are already sky high because I\u2019m having to pay health care benefits for these people.” You know, we all pay no matter where you start the calculation. Food may be cheap; taxes are going to be higher to accommodate it one way or another. I guarantee you in California as they come out with more cars that get greater gas mileage, guess what? The gasoline taxes are going to produce less revenues so they\u2019re going to have to find a way to replace that so even whatever you save by driving one of these super swanky new hybrids is going to cost you in the end because the government is not going to allow you to pay less. You know, Dr. Sowell is one of my idols. I can imagine why you\u2019re surprised, but you\u2019ve got to be surprised because you\u2019re not understanding me. <\/line>I\u2019ll tell you what: In the spirit of reconciliation, I will tell you that I probably have not communicated this well enough today. That\u2019s what I\u2019m hearing from you, if you don\u2019t understand it. I thought I had made it plain that we\u2019re discussing illegals here, and I\u2019m not denying that some illegals, you know, rise to prominence at some point and get legal. I\u2019m not saying it doesn\u2019t happen, but it\u2019s not the proscribed manner. Nobody wants to shut down the borders to all immigrants, at least I don\u2019t. That\u2019s not what I\u2019m talking about. <\/line>END TRANSCRIPT<\/line><\/p>\n

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