{"id":22748,"date":"2005-07-19T01:01:01","date_gmt":"2011-05-19T06:50:10","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2011-05-19T06:50:10","modified_gmt":"2011-05-19T06:50:10","slug":"bush_s_leak_statement_hasn_t_changed2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2005\/07\/19\/bush_s_leak_statement_hasn_t_changed2\/","title":{"rendered":"Bush\u2019s Leak Statement Hasn\u2019t Changed"},"content":{"rendered":"<section>\n<p><BR\/>RUSH: Tom in Chicago. We have our first liberal on the phone today ? it says you are &#8211; welcome to the program, sir.<\/line><BR\/>CALLER: Hello. I\u2019m just calling to let you know that earlier in the show you said something about how the media seems to be twisting that Bush changed his position on the leaker, that he would fire him. I saw them clearly ask, &#8220;Do you stand by your pledge to fire anyone in the administration found to be involved in this leak.&#8221; [sic] He clearly heard it and he clearly said, &#8220;Yes.&#8221;<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: Who?<\/line><BR\/>CALLER: I believe it was an ABC reporter. I\u2019m not sure.<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: I have both Bush statements here. Even the Washington Post, who is it writing about this today? Maybe it is Terry Hunt of the AP, but whoever I read, says it is a very, very, very, very fine distinction, a difference between the two statements. I myself don\u2019t see much. Tom, hang on just a second. Let\u2019s listen to these. Let\u2019s go back to September 30, 2003. Let\u2019s start with cut two. Mike, this is what the president said about leaks in his administration.<\/line><BR\/> BUSH: If there is a leak out of my administration I want to know who it is, and if that person has violated law, that person will be taken care of.<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: All right. Now, let\u2019s define something here: &#8220;If the person has violated the law, the person will be taken care of.&#8221; What is a violation of the law? If you violate the law and you are convicted, what does it make you? It makes you a criminal. That?s how I interpret this. This bite shows the utter disrespect of the White House press corps for the president because they just start laughing after he gets his answer started. But the question came from, in fact, Terrence Hunt, Associated Press, &#8220;Mr. President, you said that you don\u2019t want to talk about an ongoing investigation so I would like to ask you regardless of whether a crime was committed.&#8221; Well, regardless of whether a crime was committed? He never said anything about it unless a crime was committed. So the question is a bit of a set up. It is the press trying to change the goal posts. It is the media trying to move the goal posts a little closer so that they can kick their field goal with more ease. That is what this &#8220;regardless of whether a crime was committed, do you still intend to fire anyone found to be involved in the CIA leak case&#8221; is.<\/line><\/p>\n<p><BR\/>BUSH: We have a serious ongoing investigation here (laughter) and it is being played out in the press &#8212; and I think it is best that people wait until the investigation is complete before you jump to conclusions, and I will do so as well. I don\u2019t know all of the facts. I want to know all of the facts. The best place for the facts to be done is by someone spending time investigating it. I would like this to end as quickly as possible so we know the facts and if someone committed a crime, they will no longer work in my administration.<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: Okay. So, Mike, roll off that last sentence. That is really all we need here to play these things back and back. Make a separate cut out of it if you can. &#8220;If someone committed crime, they will no longer work in my administration.&#8221; Grab sound bite two again and when I give you the cue, hit that. The president said, yesterday, &#8220;If someone committed a crime, they will no longer work in my administration.&#8221; September 30, 2003:<\/line><BR\/>BUSH: If there is a leak out of my administration, I want to know who it is &#8212; and if that person has violated law, that person will be taken care of.<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: So, Tom, what is the difference there? Where did he move the goal posts?<\/line><BR\/>CALLER: Well, I\u2019m talking about, I think it was on June 10th, the question I\u2019m talking about. I don\u2019t know if you guys have that one. But what I see is, okay, if he did something criminal, he should be in jail. If he just leaked the name and they can\u2019t get the criminal, because I know this law is tough or whatever, he should be at least removed because exposing, you know, whatever they call them, a NOC, is unbelievable.<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: She wasn\u2019t a NOC. This is <a href=\"\/\/\/home\/daily\/site_071805\/content\/twilight_zone_.html\">Twilight Zone<\/a> again. She wasn\u2019t a NOC. Her boss said she wasn\u2019t a NOC. She was never in deep cover. Wait until you hear the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/ac2\/wp-dyn\/A40012-2003Oct3?language=printer\">story<\/a> I\u2019ve got today. This woman registered to vote. Well, she registered to vote under her covert name, under her agency name to vote for Gore! You could almost say she &#8220;outed&#8221; herself. She went to register to vote using her cover name so she could vote for Al Gore. She wasn\u2019t under cover. There has been no crime committed here if you look at the statute. You guys are using selective application of what you want to be true. You ask me, you call and say the president said something different yesterday than he said before. I play you the two bites. They sound the same to me. They sound identical to me &#8212; and then you say, &#8220;Well, I think if somebody leaks someone\u2019s name, whether criminal or not, ought to be fired. If criminal, ought to be in jail.&#8221; We don\u2019t even know, depending on what the statute says and what the conviction would be, whether there is jail time for this or not. Now you guys want Rove to go to jail. You just want to criminalize somebody who beats you. The real crime for the left is anybody who beats you. Next thing you know you\u2019re going to want me in jail, except you already do want me in jail. So, as of yet, that is not how the American judicial system works. Conservatism is not a crime. Beating liberals is not a crime. It is a badge of honor. But this whole notion of moving the goal posts, as you can hear from the question, starts with the reporter himself. <\/line><BR\/> &#8220;Mr. President, you said you don\u2019t want to talk about an ongoing investigation, so I would like to ask you regardless of whether a crime was committed, do you still intend to fire anyone found to be involved in the CIA leak case?&#8221; The president never said he would fire somebody who simply leaked. It happens all the time. If you fired everybody in Washington who leaks, Colin Powell wouldn\u2019t have been alive as Secretary of State for more than two days, folks. Can we be honest? Neither would his pal Richard Armitage. We wouldn\u2019t have had a Secretary of State after two days if we fired everybody that leaked. We wouldn\u2019t have half the Pentagon. We wouldn\u2019t have half the state department. We wouldn\u2019t have half the EPA if you put everybody in jail, or fired everybody, who leaked. Now you libs are barking up a tree here that you\u2019re like a cat. You are going to get so high up it will take the fire department to get you out, except we control the fire department. We are not going to come get you. We are going to leave you up there and you\u2019ll have to jump or spend the rest of your lives up this tree. I mean, the idea of saying the goal posts change because of this trick question, which is a lame trick question, &#8220;So, I would like to ask you, regardless of whether a crime was committed, you still intend to fire anybody?&#8221; He never said he would fire somebody if a crime was not committed. He said if there is a leak out of my administration, I want to know who it is. If the person\u2019s violated law, that law person will be taken care of. And yesterday he says, &#8220;If someone committed a crime, they\u2019ll no longer work in my administration.&#8221; How can it be any more consistent from September 30th of 2003 to yesterday? <\/line><BR\/>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/line><\/p>\n<p><BR\/>RUSH: All right. I won\u2019t let this go just yet. This media claim that The White House has changed the bar, lowered the threshold. It would be interesting if the New York Times said the same thing, &#8220;If someone committed a crime they will no longer work at my newspaper.&#8221; Hello Judith Miller. Oh, and folks, have you seen the editor of New York Times, Mr. Keller, all concerned about Judith Miller\u2019s gastrointestinal tract. The food in prison is horrible Dawn, and she\u2019s not eating enough of it because it is making her sick to her stomach. Bill Keller said, &#8220;I had to go there to tell her to eat. &#8216;Judy, you must eat.'&#8221; It is horrible in there. Horrible. Apparently she\u2019s in a gulag, whatever this place is. So they\u2019re setting it up that the food is horrible, she is not dealing with the bad food well, but she is holding up, holding up. They had to go in there and they told her to, &#8220;Make sure, Judy, that you eat. You have to eat.&#8221; It sounds like you are talking to a kid. I don\u2019t know if she is in the fetal position yet, but she is chained to the floor and there is hair, loose strands of hair next to where she is chained. I\u2019m just kidding Mr. Snerdley. I\u2019m just kidding. It won\u2019t be long before we hear such allegations. I have three sound bites, maybe four, that I want to play. We\u2019re going to replay President Bush from yesterday, and then President Bush from September 30. In fact, let\u2019s reverse that. We\u2019ll go two one, Mike. Then Terry Hunt who asked the question that actually moved the bar and then got to McClellan later in The White House press briefing. Here is Bush on September 30.<\/line><BR\/>BUSH: If there is a leak out of my administration, I want to know who it is. And, if the person has violated law, that person will be taken care of.<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: Here is Bush yesterday.<\/line><BR\/>BUSH: And if someone committed a crime they will no longer work in my administration.<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: Here is Terry Hunt who asked the question, yesterday at The White House press briefing.<\/line><BR\/>HUNT: The president seemed to raise the bar and add a qualifier today when discussing whether or not anybody would be dismissed in the leak of a CIA officer\u2019s name, in which he said, &#8216;If someone had been found to commit a crime, they would no longer work in this administration.\u2019 That\u2019s never been part of the standard before, why is it added now?<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: It\u2019s never been part of the standard before? Let\u2019s go back to audio sound bite number two, September 30, two years ago.<\/line><BR\/>BUSH: If there is a leak out of my administration, I want to know who it is. And, if the person has violated law, that person will be taken care of.<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: Mr. Hunt, what in the world? You are a reporter! I\u2019m doing a better job than you are and you are there. You\u2019re there every day. There has been no qualifier added. There was no qualifier added yesterday. What he said yesterday is practically identical to what he said on September 30, 2003 &#8212; and, to assert to McClellan that somebody has to have committed a crime before they won\u2019t work in his administration, that that has never has been part of the standard is an out and out lie. I don\u2019t know if it is misinformed lie or purposeful lie, but Terrence Hunt of the Associated Press is totally misrepresenting this because the press\u2019s reputation is at stake. Their reputation for being able to kill people. Folks, what have I told you? You know, you\u2019ve laughed at me, some of you, when I\u2019ve talked to young journalism students who call here and say they want to be journalists and ask my advice. I say, &#8220;Go get a job at small paper and pick out some community person and destroy them. You\u2019ll get noticed by the mainstream press faster than any other type of reporting you do. You pick out some big rich guy in that town where you are working and destroy this guy or raise questions about his character of any kind. Whether it is worth it or not, whether it\u2019s valid or not, and you\u2019ll get noticed.&#8221; Here we have to kill Karl Rove and they\u2019re protecting their reputation to show that they can still bring people down. Even though they\u2019ve lost their monopolistic power, it is their reputation on the line here, their ability to cover a story the way they want it covered. Their ability to report a story the way they want it reported. <\/line><BR\/>Their ability to report only the facts that work for them and ignore the facts that hurt them; their ability to shape the news that you get every day and thus; their ability to shape your opinion every day &#8212; that is their reputation. It is at stake. That is why I say these people are engaged in their second or next to last stand &#8212; and they got one foot off the cliff, about to fall off the deep end. When you\u2019ve got a reporter changing the terms of a president\u2019s answer in a question, as Terry Hunt did yesterday: &#8220;I would like to ask you regardless of whether a crime was committed&#8230;&#8221; What happened here, that is a trick question because you set up the premise in the question. Whatever the president\u2019s answer is, you say, &#8220;Well, he changed what he said.&#8221; No, he didn\u2019t change what he said. You changed your question. You changed the premise from breaking law or not breaking law, will he be fired if he leaked? Then you took the president\u2019s answer and assumed, you just want everybody to believe because you don\u2019t think anybody else heard this, that the president answered the way you wanted it answered. But you, Mr. Hunt, have been caught because what you say happened didn\u2019t happen &#8212; and that is so often the case now with the mainstream press, what they say happened didn\u2019t happen. What they say is going to happen doesn\u2019t happen. What they say has happened didn\u2019t happen. It\u2019s breathtaking to watch this. I love pointing it out to you, folks, as you know. I love being right. It happens a lot, more often than not. I love hearing myself speak anyway. So it is a win-win. Quick timeout. We will be back and resume &#8212; oh, wait! We have to hear from the Sitting Buddha. That would be Helen Thomas. Because she was in there and this is a level of respect that is left in The White House press corps. Helen Thomas just asks Bush &#8212; well, listen to the question and you\u2019ll get it for yourself.<\/line><BR\/> THOMAS: Two years and he can\u2019t call Rove in to find out what the hell is going on? Why is it so difficult to find out the facts? It cost thousands, millions of dollars, two years, tied up how many lawyers? All he\u2019s got to do is call him in.<\/line><BR\/>McCLELLAN: You just heard from the president. He said he doesn\u2019t know all of the facts. I don\u2019t know all of the facts.<\/line><BR\/>RUSH: Two things, Helen, if the president called Rove in, you wouldn\u2019t be there. So Rove says what he says. The president comes out, &#8220;Hey, Rove just told me he didn\u2019t do it.&#8221; Are you going to accept it, Helen? You know damn well you are not going to accept it. The second thing is, Helen, where was this question during the nine months that Bill Clinton was lying to this country about Monica Lewinsky? Why didn\u2019t you just say, &#8220;Why doesn\u2019t he just come out and tell us?&#8221; (doing impression) &#8220;But he did. He did.&#8221; Yes, Helen and he lied, and that is why you have these investigations with supposedly objective prosecutors who have no political interest in the outcome, just going and getting the facts because you know it as well as anybody, Helen, if Bush came out and said, &#8220;I just talked to Karl and Karl said he didn\u2019t do it,&#8221; you would be all over him in double time. <\/line><BR\/>END TRANSCRIPT<\/line><\/p>\n<paragraph\/>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>RUSH: Tom in Chicago. We have our first liberal on the phone today ? it says you are &#8211; welcome to the program, sir.CALLER: Hello. 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