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RUSH: Wesley in Newton, North Carolina, welcome, sir, to the EIB Network. Glad you waited.<\/line>CALLER: Thank you, Rush. How you doing today?<\/line>RUSH: Just fine, sir.<\/line>CALLER: Question for you. Actually it\u2019s not really a question, to begin with. Probably about half an hour ago<\/a> when you were talking about the stem cell research — you said we wouldn\u2019t be able to swallow this when you said it, actually, but — you came across like this whole stem cell research debate is the Democrats\u2019 attempt to really push abortion, but I don\u2019t really understand that, because their whole technique at abortion is they like to come out by saying, “I\u2019m pro-choice,” but I do not get how that can be transferred over to the stem cell research debate because I think it comes off like the only thing they\u2019re trying to do is kill the babies, and that\u2019s the way it\u2019s coming off whenever you say it, like… Do you understand what I\u2019m saying?<\/line>RUSH: Not quite. Sounds like you\u2019re agreeing with me, but I don\u2019t think —<\/line>CALLER: I am agreeing with you to a degree, but what I don\u2019t get is I\u2019ve always said there\u2019s three different kinds of Democrats when it comes to abortion. There\u2019s the ones that say, “I\u2019m pro-choice,” when they tried to hide behind that.<\/line>RUSH: Yeah?<\/line>CALLER: And there\u2019s the ones that say, “I\u2019m pro-abortion,” and then there\u2019s ones that say, “Kill the babies! Kill the babies!”<\/line>RUSH: Wait a minute. I don\u2019t know too many of them that are actually out there saying, “Kill the babies, kill the babies.” That\u2019s the outcome, but I don\u2019t know too Democrats actually out there saying that.<\/line>RUSH: Right. But that\u2019s how I think you came across when you just said —<\/line>RUSH: No. Oh, you\u2019re saying I came across that way.<\/line>CALLER: Right.<\/line><\/p>\n

RUSH: No. I like to cut to the chase. What is abortion? It\u2019s killing the baby. Sorry! The Democrats will never say that\u2019s what they\u2019re doing. I will. But, come on, if we can\u2019t… Look it, if we\u2019ve gotten to the point here where we can\u2019t honestly describe anything that\u2019s happening, whether it be a war or whether it be what happens in an abortion, then we\u2019re hopelessly mired in a quagmire of communication advancement. By the way, I don\u2019t think all Democrats — I have to stipulate this often: I don\u2019t think all Democrats are — are pro-abortion, pro-choice or however they hide it. There are a lot of them that aren\u2019t. I\u2019m talk about the leaders. I\u2019m talk about the people that are going to make this happen, the people that are talking about embryonic stem cell research. Let me be blunt. I find that works best. It offends people, but the why beat around the bush? If another method for attracting the stem cells that you would get from embryos can be found, such as amniotic fluid, what\u2019s wrong with that? <\/line>Why would you cast that aside and say, “Nope. We gotta have them from the embryos”? But what if they\u2019re the same thing? “Well, we still gotta have them from the embryos.” Well, then why? Why do you want them from the embryo? See, the abortion movement is in trouble. It\u2019s not a massively supported movement right now, and it\u2019s always a subject that\u2019s under debate, and it\u2019s losing ground in a lot of places. This was a way of keeping the debate alive without talk about it, the whole embryonic stem cell research debate is really about abortion without using the word. If you can get the same stem cells, forgetting for a moment that they show no promise yet. We don\u2019t know if they will. Some people are saying it\u2019s going to be 20 years. Meanwhile, other stem cells are showing lots of progress and promise. Adult stem cells, cord blood stem cells, there\u2019s any number of stem cells you can get where you don\u2019t have to kill the baby — sorry! — you don\u2019t have to abort the fetus. But for some reason killing the baby seems first and foremost the top of the list what has to happen here. Why? To cure grandma\u2019s Parkinson\u2019s or Alzheimer\u2019s, of which there has been not one shred of evidence that embryonic stem cells do that yet? It\u2019s all a bunch…<\/line>“Yes, Rush, but you can\u2019t deny people their hope.”<\/line>I know. I know. We can hope for the most ridiculous, irrational things, and if somebody comes along to throw water on it with a little reality, they are the bad guys! They are the meanies. We\u2019re supposed to sit here and indulge people in their hope, even though there is none. It\u2019s just (sigh). I don\u2019t know. Folks, there\u2019s some days I think that I\u2019m just too smart to live in this country and maintain sanity and happiness. <\/line><\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT <\/line>RUSH: I got an e-mail from someone who said, “Rush, why are you so convinced that the Democrats\u2019 position on embryonic stem cells is so oriented toward making sure that abortion remains a common occurrence?” (sigh) Folks, in explaining this, let\u2019s go back to the story out of Bangor, Maine that starting next week if you\u2019re driving around in an enclosed car or truck in which there are children, and you are smoking, you\u2019ve subject to a $50 fine, if you\u2019re driving on a state road or a city road, which it\u2019s impossible not to be driving on one of those — well, unless you\u2019re out in the sticks on gravel, I guess. Who knows? <\/line>The point is they said, one of the council members in Bangor Maine who herself is a smoker said this is tantamount to killing the kids. It\u2019s tantamount to murder. Now, isn\u2019t it interesting they can say that about smoking, but you can\u2019t say that about abortion? When I say abortion is about killing children, I got people calling me, “Well, that\u2019s a little brutal, don\u2019t even you think?” No, it\u2019s true. It\u2019s what happens. It\u2019s perfectly fine to say smoking with kids in the car is killing them, tantamount to killing them, even though how many decades is it going to take, and they would have to be in there every day for hours on end. But here\u2019s the real reason. If Tom Harkin and any of the other Democrats were to come out — and what\u2019s got this argument sparked today is the survey paper released yesterday that says that stem cells from amniotic fluid in the womb are perhaps just as valuable as embryonic stem cells.<\/line>The Democrats are all beside themselves, you can\u2019t do that on the day before Senate debate. Why, this is one paper! Harkin is urging the media to ignore it and not pollute the upcoming Senate debate on this, too important, creating false hope, all of this rigamarole. The real answer to the question is: Iif they give up, if the Democrats, the liberals ever give up on their push for embryonic stem cell research, what happens? By definition, it weakens their case for abortion, because to give in to the less wretched alternatives, such as adult stem cells or amniotic fluid stem cells, the Democrats are, in an implied way, conceding that we ought to try to limit the death option, and they thereby imply there\u2019s something morally wrong with that kind of research — and they can\u2019t do that. They cannot ever admit there\u2019s anything morally wrong with embryonic stem cell research because in a then says there\u2019s something morally wrong with abortion, and they will never, ever do that, and they will fight having to do that, regardless what research comes along.<\/line><\/p>\n

And, I\u2019ll tell you what, if tomorrow there were a cure discovered for, say, Parkinson\u2019s or Alzheimer\u2019s in any kind of stem cell research other than embryonic, they would try to discount it — and I am not exaggerating and I\u2019m not making it up. That\u2019s how important this is. They can never, ever allow themselves to admit that there is something morally wrong about abortion. It\u2019s just the exact opposite, in fact. Holding out this false hope of “great cures for horrible diseases” in embryonic stem cell research, actually points out the moral high ground in abortion, does it not? Which propels the whole movement — and of course as selfish and passive the American people have become, why, they\u2019ll fall prey to the argument: “It\u2019s just an embryo! I mean, that\u2019s not a kid. Don\u2019t kid me, Limbaugh. Killing a kid? You\u2019re killing an embryo! It\u2019s no different than killing the yolk of an egg. Who believes you\u2019re killing a chicken? Yeah, yeah! Besides that, I\u2019ve got Alzheimer\u2019s! I need to get cured. I\u2019ve got Parkinson\u2019s. I need to be cured. We\u2019re going to have babies all day left and right. I just need one to cure me,” and that\u2019s how they\u2019ll sell it. (sigh)<\/line>You know, if we encourage the choice — like they say they\u2019re pro-choice, but you can\u2019t exercise a choice and still be pro-choice. I tried that once on this very program. I came out and said, “Ladies and gentlemen, I am pro-choice. I have decided I have changed my mind. I am pro-choice. I choose for pregnant women to give birth, put the baby up for adoption, keep it, or what have you.” <\/line>Feminists called: “You can\u2019t do that! <\/line>I said, “Why? Choice is choice. I\u2019m choosing.”<\/line>“You can\u2019t do that!”<\/line>That\u2019s why if we encourage the choice to have the mother keep the baby, we are again conceding the implication that abortion is a less moral choice, and the Democrats will never, ever concede that no matter what — and that\u2019s why they\u2019re not going to let go of the embryonic stem cell research as a thing that holds out great promise, even though there\u2019s more promise in occasion in other areas. One other smoking story, this is from the UK. We\u2019ve already had our version of this here. I think this was in some county in Maryland. “<\/line>“An English couple are facing a council investigation into their smoking habits at home. Jeanette Gordon-Crawley, 54, and her husband Gavin, 51,” three years younger than his wife; that\u2019s problematic, but that\u2019s another discussion, “from Caernarfon, north Wales, have been told by their local council that their next-door neighbour has complained that she can smell cigarette smoke from their house in her living room. Moira Duell, an environmental health officer with Gwynedd County Council, sent them a letter headed: ‘Alleged Odour Nuisance\u2019, the Sun said. In the letter she said: ‘Your neighbour alleges that cigarette smoke is permeating into her living room from your property. To enable further investigation into the matter I would like to visit your property to discuss the matter further.'”<\/line>Can you imagine this? Well, of course you can, because it\u2019s already happened here in the United States, except in Maryland, a woman who was 300 yards away — 300 feet away, a hundred yards, a football field away — claimed that a couple smoking in their house with all the windows closed, she could smell the smoke, the secondhand smoke, and on that basis, they were going to ban cigarette smoking in their house. It didn\u2019t quite work, but, as I say, these things, once they\u2019re brought up, they never go away. Isn\u2019t it time, folks, we got serious about this? All of this death, all of this cancer, all of this discomfort, the noxious fumes, isn\u2019t it time to ban the product? For crying out loud, I have never in my life heard about the pitfalls of a product that causes death, and the product still survives — other than guns, but that\u2019s a different story. The libs are on the same take there, but aside from that, we\u2019ve got a product that, if you listen to these people, murders!<\/line>It murders the innocent; it kills the victim, and what are we doing? We\u2019re continuing to produce the product, and we\u2019re taxing the people who buy it, and what are we using the proceeds for the taxation of tobacco products for? Health care! Smokers are single-handedly — or not quite, but smokers — are bearing the huge burden via the taxes they pay on health care. They deserve a medal. They deserve the Congressional Medal of Honor, or the Medal of Freedom. These people are devoted to improving your life, and they\u2019re being called murderers! Yet the product still survives. It\u2019s just curious, isn\u2019t it, ladies and gentlemen? All of this horror that we hear about this, and yet nobody moves to ban the product. They move to ban the use in more and more places, but they refuse to ban the product. <\/line><\/p>\n

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