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RUSH: Alexandria, Louisiana, this is Mike, and you\u2019re first today. Nice to have you with us, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER (garbled): Thanks for having me, Rush. Look, Rush, I love you but you\u2019re wrong on this Iraqi issue.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Whoa, whoa, whoa. Could you hold the phone back? Back off on your phone a little bit. Your phone is too close to your mouth.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah. I love you, Rush, man but you\u2019re wrong on this Iraqi issue.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I\u2019m wrong on this Iraqi issue?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes. It\u2019s done, Rush. It\u2019s over.<\/p>\n

RUSH: But I\u2019m not wrong about it. How do you think I\u2019m wrong about it?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Because Americans troops, no matter how good they are, or trained they are, are not going to stop these people from wanting to kill each other. And — and — and Bush is only doing this because he doesn\u2019t want the disaster that\u2019s become Iraq, going on during the \u201908 election. It\u2019s all politics now.<\/p>\n

RUSH: But it\u2019s going to be going on during the \u201908 election.<\/p>\n

CALLER: It\u2019s — yeah, but he\u2019s trying to make it — put a smiley face on it, and it\u2019s not going to turn out well.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, you know, now I know why you disagree with me. You\u2019re from the ‘we can\u2019t win\u2019 crowd, and there\u2019s no hope here. You know, Mike, aside from the phone you\u2019re using, you sound like a pretty intelligent guy, and that\u2019s why it distresses me to hear you talk like this. You\u2019re an American, and you\u2019re saying, ‘We can\u2019t win. We can\u2019t stop these people from killing each other. We can\u2019t do this. We can\u2019t do anything! Why, the American military is not going to be able to succeed.\u2019 This is not about Iraq\u2019s ‘stability.\u2019 We would have never gone to war for stability in Iraq. That\u2019s not what this is. I\u2019m going to repeat this again. Whether you want to listen to it or not, I am. This is about US national security. You have to look at this in context. What is so hard about this, folks? What is so hard about listening to this radio show in context? What is so hard about knowing the history of this issue, when it has been front and center on American television and news networks and all this for four or five years? Go back to 9\/11 and go back to the day after and the week after what the president said. He said, ‘Al-Qaeda\u2019s behind this. We know it, and we\u2019re going to find them wherever they are, and we\u2019re going to root them out.\u2019 <\/p>\n

They are in Iraq, and they are the ones stirring up the mess in Iraq. They\u2019re the ones making this look like a civil war. There are some signs that the Sunnis are getting fed up with the Al-Qaeda people, because the Al-Qaeda people are trying to impose their super-strict Islamofascist version of Islam on them, and I know that may sound a little odd, but Al-Qaeda are the terrorists. They are terrorists wherever they go, and they\u2019re terrorizing people of their own religion. It\u2019s being reported — I mean, you heard Murtha. He said Al-Qaeda\u2019s not even there. Al-Qaeda was in Iraq before 9\/11 happened. They had no operational connectivity to 9\/11 and nobody ever asserted that they did. Now, the president, for whatever you think about him, Mike — and I\u2019ve said this a couple times in the last week and I\u2019ll repeat it. Long after we\u2019re all dead and gone, when historians who are not yet born begin to write about this era, they\u2019re going to place George Bush in the upper echelon of presidents who had a great vision for America, who looked beyond our shores, who didn\u2019t just restrict himself to domestic policy niceties. <\/p>\n

A disaster happened on his watch, a disaster that had happened on previous occasions to thousands of Americans around the world but not on this country\u2019s soil. It happened on this country\u2019s soil. The president of the United States could have easily said, ‘You know, our intelligence says this and says that, but this is just the way of the world. We\u2019ve just got to deal with it,\u2019 as some Democrats are now saying. Some Democrat presidential candidate say, ‘Well, we gotta deal with this.\u2019 Well, columnists are saying it. Rosa Brooks<\/a>, the LA Times, says you gotta learn to live with it. This is the world today. Well, the president said (paraphrased), ‘No, we\u2019re not going to put up with this; we\u2019re not going to put up with 3,000 innocent Americans being slaughtered by terrorists, wherever they are. We\u2019re going to find them wherever they are. We\u2019re going to root them out.\u2019 Then he further said, ‘We are going to make an attempt to turn down the temperature that is the boiling cauldron of all this hate in the Middle East,\u2019 and Iraq was the place chosen to make this change, and I don\u2019t want to go through all the Saddam Hussein stuff. I probably should because people have probably forgotten that. He was lying about weapons of mass destruction, bragging about how he had them. Every intelligence agency in the world knew that he had them. <\/p>\n

It was a fact. It was not a lie. So, Mike, your shortsighted view of this is embarrassing to me. You\u2019re an American citizen, and you don\u2019t think we can win and you don\u2019t even know what\u2019s at stake here. You\u2019re probably the product of the Big Lie being constantly repeated by Democrats and their accomplices in the Drive-By Media. This is not an easy thing to do. The president never said it was going to be easy. He said it was going to be hard; it could take a long time, maybe generations. But everything about it is admirable, and there are people on our side starting to fall off this now. ‘I don\u2019t think we can democratize Iraq. Ehhh, I don\u2019t think…\u2019 Well, they\u2019re not president, and they weren\u2019t elected to be president, and anybody who\u2019s not got accountability and doesn\u2019t have authority can sit here and bellyache and whine and moan and give up and respond to what they think of the will of the people is all day long. George W. Bush as president, doesn\u2019t have that flexibility. He doesn\u2019t have the ability to change his mind every five seconds based on some latest poll or what some nilly-willy critic happens to be saying from wherever. This remains an admirable<\/emphasize> objective. It is a problem that is getting worse, worldwide terrorism.<\/p>\n

The state department even said the number of terrorist attacks, of people killed, increased last year. It is expanding! It hasn\u2019t happened here, so Americans — awash in prosperity and affluence — can ignore it. They don\u2019t have to pay attention to it. There hasn\u2019t been another 9\/11. But people are dying all over the world because of these terrorist attacks by Al-Qaeda and related terrorist groups, and right now there are two people in the world that are serious about doing something about it: John Howard in Australia and George W. Bush and their military commanders, and they\u2019re not wavering even when people in this country awash in affluence and prosperity don\u2019t take the time to remember what they knew and don\u2019t take the time to fully understand what\u2019s going on. They live in a sound bite world, the sound bite world they\u2019re treated to in 20 minutes every night on so-called newscasts. But this is an amazing objective, and if it works, it\u2019s going to be one of the most redefining and important periods in American history. This is something that can\u2019t stand. The world, the free world, cannot just sit around and be targets every day for terrorist attacks here or there under the assumption, ‘This is the way the world is and we just have to learn to live with it. We\u2019ve gotta learn to accept that 3,000 Americans are going to die at a clip from now on.\u2019 <\/p>\n

If that ever became the operative procedure of the leaders of this country, we\u2019re cooked, and there\u2019s nothing in our history as a nation that suggests that that\u2019s the way we operate or think. Not just in the way we defend ourselves, but the way we defend our allies, the way we seek freedom and prosperity for as many people around the world who are willing to work for it and want it. So what\u2019s happening here is not as you characterize it, a bunch of people killing each other that\u2019s been going on for 1400 years and our military can\u2019t stop it. This is about your freedom, Mike. It is about the freedom of members of your family that are going to be extended that are not even conceived and born yet. It\u2019s time a little maturity swept over this country and they started looking at the future as people used to do. We\u2019re so fat and lazy and happy, we\u2019ve got all the time to focus on our own pleasure, our own hedonism, our own sybaritic pursuits. Each and every day we can make life about what we want, without any regard for those Americans who have not yet been born or even conceived. That\u2019s not the way this country has always operated! In the past, every generation has tried to make the next generation a better one than it had, and that\u2019s what this is all about. <\/p>\n

That\u2019s what George Bush is attempting to do: preserve the United States as it has been known, not leave it a random victim of daily or monthly or yearly terrorist attacks, ‘because that\u2019s just the way the world is.\u2019 Yeah, he\u2019s got some American people against him, and he\u2019s got the whole Democrat Party against him. He\u2019s got some cowardly Republicans who don\u2019t have the guts to stick with him on this against him as well. But it hasn\u2019t stopped him, has it? Thirty percent approval numbers haven\u2019t stopped him. If Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter had gotten down to 30%, what do you think they would do to reverse it? Whatever it took to reverse it, even if it meant changing their policies on a dime, even if it meant giving up on core convictions, whatever they might have been. <\/p>\n

When I hear calls like this from people who are so damn sure, so damn confident we can\u2019t win, I ask myself, ‘Where did this start? Who was it? Where did it happen, this creeping, increasing number of people becoming fatalists and defeatists about their own country?\u2019 I know we\u2019ve always had liberals who have that attitude. We\u2019ve always had socialists in our midst who\u2019ve had that attitude, who don\u2019t like the country for whatever reason. But it has never been the majority of the population of this country, and it isn\u2019t now, despite the Democrats talking about it as though it is the ‘will of the people.\u2019 It is not the will of the people when you gotta bribe the representatives of the people with pork to get them to vote for this bill. It is not the will of the people when you\u2019re going to fail to come up with a two-thirds majority in both houses to override the president\u2019s veto. This is a serious undertaking. It is valorous, and in time, it will be so recorded as American history. <\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: To Sarasota, Florida. This is John. Great to have you, sir. Nice to welcome you to the EIB Network.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Thank you, Rush. It\u2019s a pleasure to speak with you.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You bet.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I wanted to respond to the gentleman who called earlier who was saying the war is unwinnable and all these people just want to kill each other. What I want to say is, I grew up in the Middle East. I spent four years in the United Arab Emirates, four years in Qatar, couple years in Bahrain, actually lived in Saudi Arabia for a year. I was actually there on September 11, 2001, and it\u2019s just not true that all these people are at each other\u2019s throats. The people almost espouse something different in public than in private. I mean, one of the worst things for a Muslim is to be deemed a bad Muslim. So, you know, often they will say, you know, ‘Down with the West,\u2019 or they will, you know, espouse the party line in public. But when they\u2019re in private, they want what everybody else wants. They want freedom. They want opportunities for their family.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, you say that, and I know that there are some people even in this audience, particularly if they are on the left — and this happened when the Soviet Union fell — who say, ‘Well, freedom is not for everybody,\u2019 and, ‘These people have never had freedom,\u2019 they\u2019re saying out there. ‘Why, what do you mean, freedom? These are nomads! Why, these people are savages. They don\u2019t want freedom.\u2019 The operative theory here is that we\u2019re all created by our Creator with certain inalienable rights, and one of them is this yearning spirit to be free. Now, if they\u2019ve never known it, if they\u2019ve been oppressed for generation after generation after generation either by an oppressive religion or governments or whatever, yeah, it\u2019s going to take awhile to surface because they\u2019re scared to express freedom or the desire for it.<\/p>\n

CALLER: That\u2019s absolutely it. I mean, if you look at the places where it\u2019s had a foothold — you look at Dubai, you look at Bahrain. You look at those places, and everywhere where it\u2019s been tried, it\u2019s succeeded. Sharjah, which is one of the smaller emirates, it\u2019s a great success story. When they came out of British rule in the early seventies, the seed was planted. Now, those countries are Muslim countries, but they live with freedom. I mean, yes, it\u2019s a different thing in different places than we have in the States. I mean, women are allowed to drive somewhere, and alcohol is restricted.<\/p>\n

RUSH: But the point that you\u2019re making is, let\u2019s look at Dubai. Dubai\u2019s got Islamofascists running around, but Dubai as a nation is peaceful. I\u2019ve been there. There\u2019s not sectarian violence in Dubai.<\/p>\n

CALLER: No.<\/p>\n

RUSH: There\u2019s not.<\/p>\n

CALLER: No, there\u2019s not.<\/p>\n

RUSH: There is not sectarian violence in Jordan. There is not sectarian violence in Saudi Arabia. (That\u2019s a pretty oppressed place.) Qatar, you mentioned. But there are extremists among the Islamists who are trying to foment all of this fear and tumult and chaos, and it\u2019s aimed at anybody who will not swallow their rigid interpretation of their religion. They could be other Muslims. It could be Christians, Catholics, Protestants, Jews, it doesn\u2019t matter — and they\u2019re broadcasting to the world what their intentions are. The idea that all of these Arabs and all these Islamists are shooting each other and that we can\u2019t stop it, it\u2019s been going on 1400 years. Maybe, in the case of Iraq, it has been a long history of the Sunnis and the Shi\u2019ites being at each other\u2019s throats. One of the reasons is that one of them is such a huge majority that they\u2019re oppressing the others. The Kurds are up in the north biding their time, waiting for them to wipe each other out and move in, and take over. The situation with Saddam was, Saddam kept all these people in their houses and quiet because he was butchering anybody that got out of line. He was raping. He had rape rooms, mass murders, all these things. <\/p>\n

Well, that\u2019s gone. Okay, so now they\u2019re resuming the fight. There\u2019s a historical thing here. What is maddening to all of us who know the history and look at this contextually is that the big lie is the American presence, the American military presence in George Bush\u2019s policies are causing this sectarian violence. It\u2019s American presence causing all this, and it isn\u2019t, and it may be something that has to play itself out, but it is not typical, and every civilization\u2019s gone through it. We had our civil war. Every subdivision goes through these things, especially when they\u2019re emerging from what these people are emerging from, which is a pure tyranny under Saddam Hussein. It\u2019s only natural that people are asserting themselves for power. People have already forgotten: there have been free elections; there is a constitution. There is a government in place, faster than anybody thought possible. That\u2019s pooh-poohed! Every achievement that\u2019s taken place over there, has been pooh-poohed. Every achievement by the military is unrecorded. In fact, in many cases it\u2019s mocked and made fun of. Now, the Drive-Bys are trying to say on cable TV last night that this is putting the pressure on Maliki. Maliki has to go. They want tumult and chaos. The Drive-Bys want it for two reasons: A, it disrupts Bush policy. B, it makes great news. They love tumult and chaos. They\u2019re trying to makes us feel tumultuous and chaotic in our daily lives each and every day, but the idea that there\u2019s a certain group of savages over there that\u2019s going to spend the rest of creation killing themselves? You can say that\u2019s going to happen in every part of the world. It has since it began. But it doesn\u2019t mean that if they start trying to kill us, we don\u2019t try to stop them. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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