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RUSH: We go to Philadelphia. Steve, you\u2019re up. Nice to have you here.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hey, Rush. Pleasure to speak to you, sir.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I\u2019m actually for this immigration bill. At first I was against it but thinking about it, I\u2019m for it for two reasons. I think if the Republicans don\u2019t pass it, and we get a Democrat president next time around, and they pass the immigration bill, the Republicans are going to pay for it because the Hispanic people will remember who made them citizens, and that\u2019s going to hurt the Republicans for a long time.<\/p>\n

RUSH: How?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Because they\u2019re going to say the Republicans didn\u2019t do it, the Democrats did, and they\u2019re going to reward the Democrats.<\/p>\n

RUSH: What if it destroys the country? Do you still think the Republicans ought to share credit for that?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, I don\u2019t think it will destroy the country. That brings me to my second point. Because I think someone has to pay, someone who is making minimum wage has to pay $5,000 and buy another ticket back somewhere, I think that means they\u2019re somewhat self-reliant, that they can pay this money on minimum wage, they\u2019re likely to be a harder worker, maybe even more likely to vote Republican. Do you see what I\u2019m saying on that point? <\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, I understand what you\u2019re saying. I don\u2019t understand why you\u2019re saying it. To discuss this with you I have to be redundant, and I assume you listen so you know my point of view disagrees with you. I don\u2019t think they\u2019re going to pay the $5,000 fine. I think after this thing becomes law, the Democrats are going to say, ‘Those fines are atrocious. That\u2019s taking food out of the mouths of starving babies. Where they are going to come up with this?\u2019 No, they\u2019ll waive that. They\u2019ll waive all of this. There\u2019s not going to be any disincentive to coming here.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah.<\/p>\n

RUSH: There isn\u2019t. But you\u2019re looking at it purely politically. You think that this thing is going to pass. You\u2019re coming at it from the understanding that, ooh, legislation, big legislation. Big legislation is always celebrated, and the Republicans better get their piece of it or they\u2019re going to pay politically. You\u2019re not really examining the details of the legislation and what the potential pitfalls of this are. I understand your basic perspective. You\u2019re of the school of thought that the Republicans, and they think this, too, will be wiped out if they are seen on the sidelines of this. Believe me, that is Washington-think. That\u2019s no different than thinking, ‘We gotta do something, even if it\u2019s worse than what we got now. We gotta do a bill, we have to have a bill. That\u2019s how we\u2019re measured. Do we get a bill, did the bill pass, or did the bill go up in flames? If it goes up in flames, oh, my God, they\u2019re going to think we\u2019re do-nothing up here.\u2019 So this whole notion of do-nothing Congress is what they\u2019re worried about. And, frankly, the more they do nothing the better off we all are. We have enough laws, for crying out loud. The media is obsessed with what goes on in the halls of Congress. The average citizen isn\u2019t. We don\u2019t orient our lives around this notion, ‘Will they get the legislation passed today?\u2019 If you do nothing, it\u2019s a silent amnesty program? Well, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. <\/p>\n

I understand that Chertoff is saying if we do nothing, literally nothing, then we are conferring a silent amnesty on everybody. What\u2019s the difference? Governor Schwarzenegger, ‘Well, we got hidden taxes.\u2019 So? You\u2019re taxes is going to make it visible? What\u2019s the difference, a tax is a tax. Amnesty is amnesty, whether it\u2019s hidden or visible. Now, the thing about that is, those of us that are saying do nothing, are not saying do nothing, do nothing with this bill. Focus on border security. Really get serious about that. Chertoff also says in this story, well, some of these people out there are just hoping and praying something isn\u2019t going to happen, and that\u2019s the deportation of 12 million people. And, of course — because we can\u2019t. We can put a man on the moon. We can get whales out of deltas and get them back to the ocean. We can play romantic classical music for sharks, stupidly hoping that they mate, but we can\u2019t find 12 million people and find a way to — moving on. I was in a fine mood here. I really was. Chuck in Pittsburgh, nice to have you, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: How you doing, Rush?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Good.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I may put in a fouler mood with this. Earlier you were talking about terrorism?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Terrorism.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Right.<\/p>\n

CALLER: And I just want to mention that on August 23rd, 1996, Osama bin Laden declared war on Americans.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah, but he didn\u2019t mean it then.<\/p>\n

CALLER: And sent a message to his brethren all over the world.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah, but that was during the Clinton years. He didn\u2019t mean it. He doesn\u2019t mean it now. Listen to the Breck Girl. The war on terror is a bumper sticker slogan.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, here\u2019s a quote from the declaration. ‘Terrorizing you while you\u2019re carrying arms in our land is a legitimate and morally demanded duty.\u2019<\/p>\n

RUSH: I know that you\u2019re reminding us of this, and it\u2019s true, I remember it. You\u2019re reminding the audience of this so that they might take it seriously. Look, he declares war, blows up the World Trade Center and tries the Pentagon and one other place, if you still have a bunch of people who don\u2019t think that we\u2019re at war after that, you know, giving them an 11-year-old quote from bin Laden isn\u2019t gonna shake \u2019em loose. David in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. Hello, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hi, Rush. I wanted to add a comment on the immigration. I haven\u2019t changed my mind on that, and I think that the American people, the outrage is a reflection and a reaction to how burdened we are with the cost of taxes and entitlement programs.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yep, absolutely. You nailed it.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah. If there was a flat tax and private Social Security, a privatized Social Security, nobody would care. We love immigrants. We love all people. Most conservatives I know never speak ill of immigration. It\u2019s the inequity behind this move of socialized slavery that\u2019s, you know, infected our country since the new raw deal, actually. So, you know, a kinder and gentler approach would be to treat everyone fair, including the new immigrants.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, that\u2019s exactly right. The people that live in California think it\u2019s lost. From a Republican political standpoint, California is lost. We used to run California. Used to own it. If you want a little microcosm of what this legislation might mean to Republicans nationwide, take a look at California. We lost it, folks. It\u2019s permanent Democrat, permanent Democrat. Well, permanent for a while. Who knows if anything will change down the road. But that\u2019s exactly what I go out and talk to people about. It is the pressure. They know they\u2019re being forced to pay for hospital visits and health care and education for illegals and their kids, and they resent the hell out of it. It\u2019s only going to get worse. <\/p>\n

One other thing, this business with Chertoff. Nobody is talking about doing nothing. This is the problem that the people in Washington have. If you oppose this bill, they tell everybody else that we who oppose it want to do nothing. We want to fix it! We do not want to make it worse! We do not want to expand the status quo. We do not want amnesty. But it all boils down and reverts back to this notion that we can\u2019t fix anything without legislation. For crying out loud, all new legislation is is a whole bunch of new laws and what we\u2019re doing with these new laws is saying that current laws don\u2019t work. What\u2019s magic about the new ones. If we\u2019re not going to enforce these, why are we going to enforce tomorrow\u2019s new laws? It\u2019s just about politicians being able to parade around the 4th of July picnics, ‘We got the bill done. You can count on me. I got the legislation through. We made that bill happen,\u2019 and they think, wow, wow, my guy got that bill done, oh, I\u2019m so happy, my guy got the bill done. <\/p>\n

The American people don\u2019t run around and think about, ‘Is the bill done or not?\u2019 All the social occasions I go out and I never hear anybody talking about, ‘I hope they get the bill done.\u2019 I mean, issues like this they do, but as a matter of interest, the American people are not following the intricacies of legislation and basing their happiness on whether or not the bill gets done, we\u2019re going to have a bill. But these people in Washington, inside the Beltway, that\u2019s all they think about. So when you come out and say, ‘Well, doing nothing is blind amnesty,\u2019 nobody\u2019s talking about doing nothing. I mean, you know, really all we\u2019d have to do is enforce the current law! (Gasping.) Enforce the current law. That\u2019s what I take from Chertoff\u2019s comment. He\u2019s not even willing to do that. So if he\u2019s not going to be willing to enforce this law, why enforce the next one? With those $5,000 fines? That\u2019s such a smoke screen anyway. There aren\u2019t going to be $5,000 fines or payments. Check out the Z visa, see if you see it in there. <\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, look, folks, get this $5,000 fine that the illegals have to pay out of your head. That\u2019s only if they choose citizenship. They don\u2019t have to choose citizenship because the minute the bill is signed into law, they are legal! They don\u2019t have to become citizens, and that\u2019s why they don\u2019t have to pay the $5,000. Forget all that. It\u2019s irrelevant, as I\u2019ve been trying to tell you.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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