{"id":270801,"date":"2018-04-12T16:10:00","date_gmt":"2018-04-12T20:10:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/?p=270801"},"modified":"2018-04-13T17:01:08","modified_gmt":"2018-04-13T21:01:08","slug":"zuckerberg-obfuscates-helping-obama-harvest-data","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2018\/04\/12\/zuckerberg-obfuscates-helping-obama-harvest-data\/","title":{"rendered":"Zuckerberg Obfuscates on Helping Obama Harvest Your Data"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>RUSH: Oh! You know, we\u2019ve played the sound bites here a couple or three times here, Carol &#8212; Carol &#8212; whatever. <a href=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/daily\/2018\/03\/20\/flashback-obama-campaign-bragged-about-ingesting-facebook-data\/\">The Obama tech wizardette who claims that she succeeded in getting every Facebook user for the Obama campaign in 2012<\/a>. And the New York Times wrote two or three stories about the geniuses in the Obama high-tech team that did this. And she is now adding to it. She said, &#8220;Yeah, not only did we get users, we got the entire social graph.&#8221; Do you know what the social graph is? (interruption)<\/p>\n<p>You don\u2019t. Okay, well, let me tell you what the social graph is, \u2019cause I guarantee you there isn\u2019t a senator up there that knows what it is, either. When you say, as this Carol whatever her last name is&#8230; Robertson? That\u2019s not what it is, but whenever you hear her say that they got the social graph, the whole social graph, that means they got every user and every user\u2019s known friends. That\u2019s what the social graph is.<\/p>\n<p>The social graph is not just Hoovering up the data of every user. It\u2019s also Hoovering up the data of every friend that every user has. And she\u2019s out there bragging that they pulled this off. Well, yesterday I think Zuckerberg denied this. You know, she\u2019s saying that Facebook found out about it, because, after the election, Facebook came to the Obama high-tech team and started recruiting. They wanted to find people they could hire, \u2019cause the Obama tech team was filled with a bunch of geniuses. The New York Times said so.<\/p>\n<p>And the Facebook team shows up and this Obama high-tech babe, Carol, says, &#8220;Yeah, they came in and they tried to hire and they marveled at what we had done &#8212; and they didn\u2019t stop us because they said they were &#8216;on our side,'&#8221; meaning Facebook was for Obama in 2012. Of course, no mystery about that. I think Zuckerberg tried to deny this yesterday. &#8220;Nah-nah-nah-nah. That didn\u2019t happen. We\u2019re not on anybody\u2019s side,&#8221; and so forth and so on. I think it&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Maybe it was Steve Scalise had brought it up, but it took two days for this example to even be brought up and asked of Zuckerberg. To me, it\u2019s question No. 1. You got the Obama tech team wizardette bragging that they were able to suck up every user\u2019s data in the 2012 campaign and utilize it for targeted advertising and voter outreach and what have you. The New York Times is writing stories on what a bunch of geniuses these people are and what a genius Obama is for hiring them.<\/p>\n<p>To me, that\u2019s question No. 1. But we\u2019re talking about user privacy and user agreements and so forth. And it\u2019s rooted, I think, in a lack of understanding on the part of elected officials about the tech itself. I\u2019m not talking about Facebook policy but rather just the technological things that make it all possible. For example, Zuckerberg was repeatedly asked why Facebook cannot prevent hate speech and why can\u2019t Facebook identify and deny service to hate groups. Now, you want to talk about bizarre.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-270557\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/APP-041018-Zuckerberg-Facebook.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/APP-041018-Zuckerberg-Facebook.jpg 640w, https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/APP-041018-Zuckerberg-Facebook-300x169.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/>You know, hate speech and hate groups to me are as specious as the concept of a hate crime. Let\u2019s say you go out there and you murder somebody. Okay. We\u2019ve got laws saying you can\u2019t do it &#8212; and if you do it with premeditation, you\u2019re going to jail, probably for life. You might even get the electric chair. But now we\u2019ve added to it, that if you hated the person you killed because you\u2019re a racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe then we can really lower the boom on you.<\/p>\n<p>Purely politics. Hate crime? That\u2019s nothing more than the left taking control of the language and trying to structure degrees of crime based on prejudice that they want to stamp out. Same with hate speech. Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook are somehow supposed to stop hate speech? And you have members of Congress asking why Facebook cannot prevent hate speech and hate groups?<\/p>\n<p>There are billions of users on Facebook, and these senators want to know why Zuckerberg can\u2019t prevent that kind of stuff? Okay. Turn it around. Why can\u2019t the government prevent crime and hate in a country of a few hundred million people? I mean, why can\u2019t you guys write laws that get rid of hate? If you want Zuckerberg or social media to get rid of it, why don\u2019t you write laws yourselves and get rid of it? It can\u2019t be done.<\/p>\n<p>Because it\u2019s a manufactured state of mind that is entirely subjective based on what a bunch of screwball liberals think. Hate crime, hate groups. It\u2019s nothing more than a new form of censorship. Here come these members of Congress asking about it because they think that this is what the American people\u2019s genuine concerns are, because they think that the Drive-By Media is representing a majority of people\u2019s opinions in this country, which isn\u2019t the case, as you know.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Here\u2019s Steve Scalise yesterday talking to Zuckerberg about <a href=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/daily\/2018\/03\/20\/flashback-obama-campaign-bragged-about-ingesting-facebook-data\/\">Carol Davidsen bragging about all the stuff they got from Facebook for Obama<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>SCALISE: In 2008 and 2012, there was also a lot of this done. One of the lead digital &#8212; or heads of the Obama campaign said recently, &#8220;Facebook was surprised we were able to suck out the whole social graph, but they didn\u2019t stop us once they realized that was what we were doing. They came to office in the days following election recruiting and were very candid that they allowed us to do things they wouldn\u2019t have allowed someone else to do because they were on our side.&#8221; That\u2019s a direct quote from one of the heads of the Obama digital team. What would she mean by &#8220;they,&#8221; Facebook, &#8220;were on our side&#8221;?<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/CIGSNQG0jlk\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>ZUCKERBERG: Congressman, we didn\u2019t allow the Obama campaign to do anything that any developer on the platform wouldn\u2019t have otherwise been able to do.<\/p>\n<p>SCALISE: So she was making an inaccurate statement, in your point of view?<\/p>\n<p>ZUCKERBERG: Yes.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Special treatment\u2019s not what this is! He obfuscated the answer there. Hang on.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Now, Steve Scalise is the member of Congress who just asked Zuckerberg the question about Carol Davidsen bragging that they were able to get everybody, everybody and their friends on the Obama campaign for data mining to pair up advertising and other manipulative suggestive things to get people to vote for Obama, just like the so-called Russians did for Trump. Everybody does. The Russians were pikers at it, by the way, but I don\u2019t want to distract myself here.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-268286 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/APP-032018-Data.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/APP-032018-Data.jpg 640w, https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/APP-032018-Data-300x169.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Steve Scalise is the Republican who was shot by a deranged leftist during baseball practice for an upcoming game between Democrats and Republicans in the House of Representatives. The guy who pulled the trigger, the guy who was trying to kill Republican members of Congress had a long list of leftist hate groups on his Facebook page that he was recommending, that he was suggesting, that he was liking. And they are still there.<\/p>\n<p>All of these hate groups that this clown that tried to kill Scalise and others, this deranged Democrat from Illinois, the hate groups, they\u2019re still there. But we\u2019re told there isn\u2019t any hate on the left. No, no, no, no. The hate, the hate exists only on the right. The hate exists only in the Alt-Right. The hate only exists on Fox News. But on the left there is nothing more than utopian love.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m sorry here, but I\u2019ve gotta contradict Zuckerberg. These guys doing the questioning, I don\u2019t think they are sufficiently informed on all of this. &#8216;Cause here, ladies and gentlemen, is what happened. Zuckerberg said in this sound bite, &#8220;Congressman, we didn\u2019t allow the Obama campaign to do anything that any developer on the platform wouldn\u2019t have otherwise been able to do. No special treatment.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Zuckerberg said, &#8220;The Obama campaign didn\u2019t get anything that anybody else could get.&#8221; Well, that is the exact opposite of what Carol Davidsen said. She\u2019s the Obama tech wizardette. She said the GOP did not have the access that Obama\u2019s campaign did. And you know what else? She said that ultimately she didn\u2019t think that was fair, but she did it anyway because all\u2019s fair in love and politics.<\/p>\n<p>But she pointed out &#8212; and we\u2019ve played that aspect of her sound bite on previous programs &#8212; she says the GOP didn\u2019t have the access that Obama\u2019s campaign did. She said back in 2015 (paraphrasing), &#8220;The Republicans do not have that information and will not get that information. I\u2019m a Democrat, so maybe I could argue that\u2019s a great thing, but really it\u2019s not in the overall process. That wasn\u2019t thought all the way through and now there\u2019s a disadvantage of information that to me seems unfair. But I\u2019m not Facebook. And if the advantage extends to me in politics, I\u2019m gonna take it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-270817\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/APP-041218-Obama-Facebook.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/APP-041218-Obama-Facebook.jpg 640w, https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/APP-041218-Obama-Facebook-300x169.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/>She\u2019s making it perfectly clear that Facebook did facilitate what they were doing and that Facebook was on their side. And if she\u2019s saying the Republicans didn\u2019t get anything, didn\u2019t have the access that Obama\u2019s campaign did, what does that mean? If the Republicans didn\u2019t have the access the Obama campaign did, then somebody at Facebook had to know it and okay the access for the Democrats, but to deny it elsewhere.<\/p>\n<p>But Zuckerberg said (imitating Zuckerberg), &#8220;Oh, no, no, no. Congressman, we didn\u2019t allow the Obama campaign to do anything.&#8221; The Obama campaign was heavily recruited. These wizards of smart in the Obama tech team were recruited. Facebook went and met with them at Obama campaign headquarters after the election.<\/p>\n<p>So I thought that was probably one of the most important areas to explore with Zuckerberg. Rather than go at it generically with hate speech and fairness here and there, you\u2019ve got an actual real world example where the Obama high-tech titan is bragging about the advantage they had because Facebook knew what they were doing and was on their side. And, by the way, why deny that? Because everybody knows Facebook\u2019s a bunch of leftists. Because everybody knows that Silicon Valley is a bunch of leftists.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: I need to get back to the phones here. We\u2019ve got somebody who thinks that I was wrong. That\u2019s so rare, we put these guys to the top of the call roster. This one is Greg. He\u2019s in Newport Beach, California. I\u2019m so glad you called. How are you?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Good. Thank you, Rush. Mark Zuckerberg\u2019s answer to Steve Scalise about the access that Facebook gave the Republicans versus the Democrats? He actually answered correctly because what he had done&#8230; In Mark Zuckerberg\u2019s answer, he compared the access that they gave to the Democrats as access that they gave to not Republicans, but to developers. As we all know, if you know anything about this, the developers have a completely different access level than, say, a third party, as in the Republicans. So they did give the Democrats and developers the exact same access. So he didn\u2019t answer correct&#8230; He didn\u2019t answer untruthful, but he completely miscalculated or obfuscated and made it sound like they were giving exactly the same access, and his answer was, they did not. That\u2019s all.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-269446\" src=\"https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/APP-033018-Facebook-Zucker.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/APP-033018-Facebook-Zucker.jpg 640w, https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/APP-033018-Facebook-Zucker-300x169.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/>RUSH: Well, I must say the caller here is mostly correct, and the reason that he\u2019s right is precisely because of his comments on the developer side, and I misread &#8212; therefore misinterpreted &#8212; what Carol Davidsen\u2019s comments were. Let me&#8230; Greg, thanks for the call. You can listen to my &#8216;splanation here on the radio. She\u2019s talking about the fact that they Hoovered up all of the Facebook user data and the social graph, and they do it as developers. She said, &#8220;That freaks Facebook out, right?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>She\u2019s admitting Facebook was freaked out by what the Obama campaign did, but they didn\u2019t shut it down while they were doing it. After they finished, after the campaign Facebook shuts off the feature, and she says that. So they shut off the feature. &#8220;Well, the Republicans never built an app to do what we did,&#8221; meaning the Republican developers did not write an app like the Obama developers wrote an app to Hoover all the data.<\/p>\n<p>And her point is, she goes on to say that it wasn\u2019t&#8230; She at times didn\u2019t think it was fair, but so what? The Republicans could have written an app, but they didn\u2019t. The Obama team did, and she said, &#8220;The Republicans do not have that information, and they won\u2019t get that information,&#8221; and she says, &#8220;Now that\u2019s a disadvantage of information that to me seems unfair, but I\u2019m not Facebook, so this is the reality.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>And Zuckerberg was asked by Scalise if Facebook had favored the Obama campaign in this, and Zuckerberg said no special treatment. &#8220;We didn\u2019t allow the Obama campaign to do anything that any developer on the platform wouldn\u2019t have otherwise been able to do.&#8221; And technically, that is correct. His answer still makes it look like that they were siding with the Democrats. But I guess here the bottom line here is that Democrats had developers that wrote the app that Hoovered the data.<\/p>\n<p>Facebook found out about it and didn\u2019t stop them while they were doing it, which is why Carol Davidsen said the Facebook people showed up and said, &#8220;We didn\u2019t stop you because you\u2019re on our side.&#8221; Zuckerberg is denying that. But Carol Davidsen says, &#8220;No, the Facebook people showed up to recruit some of us after the campaign and they told us they didn\u2019t shut us down because they were on our side.&#8221; The Republicans didn\u2019t develop an app to soak up that data, and they weren\u2019t told that the Democrats were doing it.<\/p>\n<p>Zuckerberg\u2019s point is, had the Republicans written an app, they could have. If they had a developer who wanted to write the app, suck data out of Facebook, they could have done it too. So we\u2019re left here with the idea that the Obama campaign was simply smarter and once the Facebook people found out about it, they didn\u2019t stop it. They shut off this ability of developers to write apps to Hoover Facebook data after the election, which mean they found out about it and let the Obama team do it.<\/p>\n<p>And of course they weren\u2019t gonna tell the Republicans, &#8220;Hey, look what the Democrats are doing over here,&#8221; because they were on the Democrat side in all of it.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>RUSH: I thought that was probably one of the most important areas to explore with Zuckerberg. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":49,"featured_media":270817,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","ngg_post_thumbnail":0},"categories":[12,1],"tags":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v17.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Zuckerberg Obfuscates on Helping Obama Harvest Your Data - The Rush Limbaugh Show<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2018\/04\/12\/zuckerberg-obfuscates-helping-obama-harvest-data\/\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:title\" content=\"Zuckerberg Obfuscates on Helping Obama Harvest Your Data - 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