{"id":27702,"date":"2011-05-19T04:35:16","date_gmt":"2011-05-19T04:35:16","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2020-03-06T10:09:53","modified_gmt":"2020-03-06T15:09:53","slug":"if_the_nie_is_right_about_iran_thank_cowboy_diplomacy_for_it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2011\/05\/19\/if_the_nie_is_right_about_iran_thank_cowboy_diplomacy_for_it\/","title":{"rendered":"If the NIE Is Right About Iran, Thank “Cowboy Diplomacy” for It"},"content":{"rendered":"
RUSH: I might actually grant, ladies and gentlemen, that diplomacy played a small part in forcing the Iranians to cease the production of their nuclear weapons program, if indeed they have. I remain unconvinced simply because of the erratic nature of previous NIEs and I also remain dubious because of what Mr. Podhoretz thinks, that there are people in the NIE and in the intelligence community who are hell-bent on undermining George W. Bush, and they\u2019ve been doing it for his whole administration. But, accepting the theory that this stuff is true this time, maybe a case could be made that diplomacy stopped Iran\u2019s nuke program, as in what was the diplomatic message? Bush placed \u2019em in the axis of evil. He puts \u2019em in the axis of evil, followed by the use of force in Iraq and the region, floating the 5th Fleet right outside Iran\u2019s door. This is sort of like in the 1980s. It\u2019s got some parallels to the eighties, Reagan\u2019s message of diplomacy to the Soviets was the evil empire, ‘the bombing starts in five minutes,\u2019 or it\u2019s the evil empire, ‘tear down this wall,\u2019 followed by missiles in Europe and SDI with the additional message of ‘We will bury you.\u2019 You came here in the UN and told us you would bury us. We\u2019re going to bury you. And that brought Gorbachev to the table.<\/p>\n

So you gotta acknowledge that in some fashion, diplomacy, calling \u2019em the axis of evil, might have been a factor here. Now, I know the Democrats don\u2019t call it diplomacy. I don\u2019t care what the Democrats call it. They may call it bullying, cowboy diplomacy, whatever. It was diplomacy. It was words. The State Department hated it. So what? State Department hates everything that works, otherwise there\u2019s no need for them. Don\u2019t tell me about the State Department. I couldn\u2019t care less. Get this. I want to read this to you again here from Norman Podhoretz. He quotes a little sentence here from the NIE report: ‘With opportunities for Iran to achieve its security, prestige, and goals for regional influence in other ways.\u2019 In other words, we must use negotiations and sanctions, with the opportunities for Iran to achieve its security, its prestige, and its goals for regional influence. This is tantamount to saying, ‘Okay, nut job Ahmadinejad and the mullahs, we want you guys to have self-esteem.\u2019 This is an intelligence estimate? Sounds like an encounter group. ‘Okay, Mahmoud, we want you to have your self-esteem, you and the mullahs. We want you to feel good about yourselves. We want you to have prestige. We understand that you people as Persians have a very, very concerned status about how you are perceived in your part of the world and we know that you want to appear to be on top of that world, and we\u2019re all for making that happen, Mahmoud. We want you to have your prestige, we want you to have your power and we just don\u2019t want you to do it with nukes. We\u2019ll help you come up with… that kind of passage is that from an intelligence estimate?<\/p>\n

Now, where are the candidates on this? Mrs. Clinton is really, really reaching here to bash President Bush and take off on this report, from the New York Times today: ‘The campaigns of the leading Democratic candidates seized Monday on an intelligence report showing that Iran had halted its development of nuclear weapons, saying the findings justified their more cautious approach to Tehran. Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton\u2019s national security director, Lee Feinstein, said the report\u2019s findings ‘expose the latest effort by the Bush administration to distort intelligence to pursue its ideological ends.” Now, just what have we done in Iran? We haven\u2019t done diddly-squat. Distort the intelligence for what purpose? Have we attacked Iran while I wasn\u2019t looking? ‘He added that the report ‘vindicates\u2019 Mrs. Clinton\u2019s approach, which he described as ‘vigorous American-led diplomacy, close international cooperation and effective economic pressure, with the prospect of carefully calibrated incentives if Iran addresses our concerns.” What a bunch of mumbo jumbo gobbledygook. Has the New York Times forgotten that she voted in the Senate to call the Iranians the Revolutionary Guards and cite them?<\/p>\n

‘In September Mrs. Clinton, Democrat of New York, voted in favor of a Senate measure declaring the Iranian Revolutionary Guards ‘proliferators of mass destruction,\u2019 a vote that was condemned by her rivals in the Democratic field. After the vote, her aides issued a statement saying, ‘The Revolutionary Guards are deeply involved in Iran\u2019s nuclear program.” I mean, this is like Mrs. Clinton on the floor of the Senate back in whatever it was, 2003. (paraphrasing) ‘Well, I have independently looked at this, and I\u2019ve seen the intelligence, and I know that Saddam\u2019s got weapons of mass destruction, and my husband knew it, too, all the way back in 1998.\u2019 So what a reach. Now, she\u2019s saying the fact that she voted in the Senate to declare the Iranian Revolutionary Guards proliferators of mass destruction, she\u2019s now saying her diplomacy brought about this NIE report which says the Iranians stopped producing a weapons program in 2003? ‘Mrs. Clinton\u2019s rivals used the release of the report on Iran on Monday to condemn the Bush administration, as well as to once again attack Mrs. Clinton\u2019s vote on declaring the guards a terrorist organization. That vote, they suggested, was evidence of her hawkishness on Iran.\u2019 These people get away with having both sides of the issue, whatever it is.<\/p>\n

All right, to the phones. People want to weigh in on this. We\u2019ll start in Maple Grove, Minnesota. This is Chris, and thank you for calling. Welcome to the program.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Good morning, Rush.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Hi.<\/p>\n

CALLER: You know, the interesting thing that comes to mind is, I thought about this yesterday, let\u2019s take the report at face value. What you had pointed out is, if they stopped in 2003, same time Libya said, as you said, no mass, so there was diplomacy, and the diplomacy was that our military was a great part of it, of what they saw happening in their area. Now let\u2019s look at back to when Ahmadinejad\u2019s saber-rattling started all over again, and that was right about the same time when our Democrats started their diplomacy saying, ‘We give up, we failed, we lost, we surrender,\u2019 which emboldened him to start the saber-rattling again. So, yeah, they\u2019ve been doing diplomacy, too. Unfortunately, their diplomacy has created this again, I believe.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Absolutely. That\u2019s a good point. Plus, Ahmadinejad was openly campaigning for Democrats to win the election in 2006.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Because he liked their kind of diplomacy.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Right. Exactly right. It\u2019s totally understandable to me that the libs and the Drive-Bys would want to take this report and spin it into an abject failure, and it\u2019s totally understandable to me that Hillary Clinton and the Democrat presidential candidates would want to do the same thing. What is amazing to me is that it\u2019s senseless. I understand their desire to do it but you cannot make the case here, unless you live in a time capsule of three years ago, four years ago where the template is Bush lied, Bush has never told the truth. Things have changed since then. Progress is being made in the war on terror, in Afghanistan and in Iraq. And, folks, I\u2019m gonna tell you again, I think in their eagerness here to attack Bush and look at this — not as a foreign policy and national security issue — but rather a political issue and how they can use it to damage Bush, they\u2019re opening the door right into their faces and bloodying their noses all over again, and they don\u2019t even know that it\u2019s happening yet. They will in due course.<\/p>\n

Mike, Oceanside, California, you\u2019re next. It\u2019s great to have you here. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Dittos, Rush. Thanks for taking my call. Yeah, you\u2019re making the points that should be made here, and the three points are that, first of all, they probably ceased doing what they were doing based on the Gulf War. Secondly, it\u2019s an intelligence estimate. It isn\u2019t factual, no more factual than it was in the past. And third, we\u2019re guessing as to what they\u2019re actually doing because we don\u2019t have the assets to tell what they\u2019re doing. And you\u2019re making all these points, where Bush is sitting up there almost apologetic rather than taking credit. I mean, if this was the Clintons, I guarantee you they\u2019d be standing up with their feathers all waving saying, ‘We did this, we accomplished this,\u2019 et cetera. I just don\u2019t get it.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, can\u2019t help you.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I didn\u2019t think you would be able to.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I don\u2019t know. I can\u2019t explain it. I don\u2019t work there. All I can do is tell you here on my own radio program and my own press conference here what I think of it.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah, I didn\u2019t mean to put you in that position where you have to —<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, I love the position. I don\u2019t mind saying I don\u2019t know. Doesn\u2019t happen very much.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, yes. Anyway, try to find somebody who can tell those people how to crow about what they\u2019ve accomplished. I mean, the Bush administration never takes credit for the things it tries to accomplish. Meanwhile, the Clintons, in stark contrast, and they continue to get away with it —<\/p>\n

RUSH: I can give you one answer. It\u2019s not by any means going to satisfy you. But this is something I know, and that is the president personally just doesn\u2019t want to get involved in this kind of thing, in touting. To him, it\u2019s beneath the office. He really believes — don\u2019t doubt me on this, folks — he really believes that history, long out, history that\u2019s going to be written by people not yet born, is going to get all of this right. He\u2019s not concerned about public relations, as we all know. He\u2019s not concerned with those kinds of things. He\u2019s confident that he\u2019s doing the right things and that history is going to get it right, and that\u2019s enough to satisfy him. I know it doesn\u2019t satisfy you, and you might think that I really don\u2019t know what I\u2019m talking about, but don\u2019t doubt me.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: I sit here and I marvel at the way the Drive-Bys and the liberals try to manage opinion and thought in this country. For example: global warming. I am one of many now starting to ask, ‘Well, what if you people in science are all wrong about this? What about the horrible economic consequences of implementing your policies, to deal with it when you are wrong?\u2019<\/p>\n

‘Oh, no, no. We\u2019re not wrong. We can\u2019t afford to be wrong! Why, we can\u2019t afford to take the chance. We gotta go with this.\u2019<\/p>\n

Now, this NIE report — which, when you read it, is like a CYA. They basically say, ‘Well, they\u2019re still enriching uranium, but it\u2019s unlikely they\u2019re trying to constitute their weapons program.\u2019<\/p>\n

So they\u2019re covering their rear ends: CYA. There\u2019s nothing really definitive in this, but you\u2019ve got a couple interesting lines in it.<\/p>\n

‘Wait a minute. What if the report is wrong?\u2019<\/p>\n

‘No, no, no. This is exactly right, and we\u2019ve gotta get out of Iraq.\u2019<\/p>\n

The way we\u2019re told to think about global warming, and the way we\u2019re being told to think about this are two totally different things, and we don\u2019t know if either are true. In fact, I will guarantee you we have more evidence that manmade global warming is a hoax than we do on what Iran\u2019s doing with its nukes. Don\u2019t doubt me. I have a question for these Democrat candidates, if I ever had a chance to ask them a question — and anybody in the State Department, too, and these people at the National Intelligence Estimate. Question one: Why is Iranian prestige more important than American prestige? Number two: How would you, as president, help advance Iranian prestige, Mrs. Clinton? ‘Well, vigorous diplomacy,\u2019 or whatever gobbledygook answer that she would give. Richard in Memphis, you\u2019re next on the EIB Network. Hello, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hey, mega dittos, Rush.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you.<\/p>\n

CALLER: My first time ever getting through. It\u2019s an honor and privilege to talk to you.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, I appreciate it. Thank you very much, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes, sir. I completely agree with you, if the intelligence is correct — which, that\u2019s a big IF — then I think that starts from fact that they are afraid after seeing how quickly we took out Iraq. However, I do think more on to that, I think that may be a reason why some of this information leaked out now, that we\u2019re really starting to take a turn on the war on terror and I was wondering if you agree with that.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, see, I mentioned this earlier. There\u2019s something… There are so few coincidences. Now, this report came out a while ago, and it was only made public and the president only knew about it last week or something. We just found out about it, but it\u2019s been in existence for, what, a month, something like that, three weeks? The point is this. We are. We have turned the corner big time in Iraq, and guess what\u2019s on the table in the Senate? Funding for the troops to continue the surge, and guess who\u2019s stopping it? Dingy Harry. Dingy Harry, in fact, is saying the surge isn\u2019t working. He said we don\u2019t have a chance of winning. He said it again yesterday. He said, ‘We\u2019re in the middle of an intractable civil war.\u2019 I guess the meeting with the anti-war crowd this week didn\u2019t go too well for Dingy Harry. I\u2019m sure he had the riot act read to him by MoveOn.org and the rest of these lunatics over these caves by Murtha and other Democrats on the surge working. So you\u2019ve got the funding for the continuance of the surge. The Democrats in the Senate are trying to hold it up and establish circumstances where an immediate troop withdrawal has to begin if Bush is going to get the money, if the troops are going to get the money.<\/p>\n

In the midst of all that, here comes this report saying, ‘Ah, there\u2019s no threat over there in Iran. They stopped their nuclear program in \u201903,\u2019 which allows the Democrats to say, ‘See? Bush has been warmongering. He\u2019s been talking mushroom clouds. There\u2019s no danger! We could get out of Iraq.\u2019 Look, when you start talking this high level of intrigue and behind-the-scenes stuff, none of this stuff is coincidence. I\u2019m not saying this is a conspiracy that actually happened. I\u2019m saying you can\u2019t reject the possibility when thinking about this, if you accept that there are elements in our government, shadow government, comprised of just a bunch of career libs and Clinton holdovers who would do anything they could to sabotage the Bush administration. If you accept that, well, then you have to be open to any number of possibilities, and that is one of them. Get this. An AP story from Vienna: ‘A US intelligence review that concludes that Iran stopped its nuclear weapons program in 2003 is consistent with the UN atomic watchdog agency\u2019s own findings and should help to diffuse the current crisis the organ…\u2019 What is this? So we\u2019re supposed to say, ‘Okay, the UN\u2019s watchdog group agrees with this intelligence estimate? Well, that\u2019s real credible! Didn\u2019t this ElBaradei guy, Mohamed ElBaradei (named after a teddy bear, by the way) start talking recently about the threat of the Iranian nuclear program, and hasn\u2019t he been warning about it and the fact that the Iranians won\u2019t let any inspectors in there?<\/p>\n

What is this BS?<\/p>\n<\/section>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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