{"id":30416,"date":"2008-09-16T01:01:01","date_gmt":"2011-05-19T03:20:22","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2011-05-19T03:20:22","modified_gmt":"2011-05-19T03:20:22","slug":"you_can_say_it_ms_fiorina_democrats_caused_mortgage_mess","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2008\/09\/16\/you_can_say_it_ms_fiorina_democrats_caused_mortgage_mess\/","title":{"rendered":"You Can Say It, Ms. Fiorina: Democrats Caused Mortgage Mess"},"content":{"rendered":"
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RUSH: I\u2019m watching Senator McCain. I don\u2019t know where he is. He\u2019s doing a campaign appearance right now, and he\u2019s bashing Wall Street regulation and this sort of thing. He\u2019s doing a good thing. He\u2019s demanding an investigation. You know, where is the investigation of all of the individuals involved with Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae? I did a little bit more research, you would not believe the extent to which Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae existed to prop up liberal Democrat politicians and their favored agencies and organizations and PACs. It\u2019s just stunning. Obama is number two, Chris Dodd is number one, Hillary ranks pretty high up there as well. But they better be careful here because it is clear — you know, we started yesterday talking about all this, and the thing that\u2019s going on here with the financial markets and the housing market, this was not the result of a failure of capitalism. <\/p>\n

This was a result of too much government involvement. Government gets involved in this stuff, uses these instruments for their own pleasure and their own survival, and when things go south, they blame capitalism and say we need new regulation. Investor\u2019s Business Daily today with a couple of great editorials on this, we\u2019ll get to them in just a second. One of them really takes it to the Clinton administration for getting involved in the whole process of making sure that people who could never pay back a mortgage were given mortgages in the first place. Carly Fiorina was on David Gregory\u2019s show on MSNBC last night, and Gregory said, ‘Is it inconsistent to say that McCain believes in more regulation and federal bailout, and still talk about belief in free markets?\u2019<\/p>\n

FIORINA: I think you are confusing John McCain\u2019s positions by painting it as hands-off, free market laissez-faire. I think that has been perhaps true of the Bush administration the last four years in terms of a Wild, Wild West with no regulation, but it is definitely not what John McCain believes. I think the better model for John McCain is Teddy Roosevelt, who believed that there was a robust role for government. And John McCain has consistently believed there is a role for government, a role for government is to make sure that institutions are accountable and transparent. But he also has said that, if anyone, Fannie and Freddie frankly shouldn\u2019t exist as government entities, that the role to support the mortgage market is not something that the federal government and the American taxpayer should guarantee. <\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, most of that\u2019s right on the money. But there\u2019s something in there that is off target. Why bash Bush here when all of these regulations and all of these screw-ups originated with Democrats, when Democrats have their hands in the till on Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. I understand they\u2019ve gotta distance themselves from Bush because the Democrats are running out saying McCain is just another four years of Bush and so forth, but this is a gratuitous attack on Bush, and it would have been better aimed at Democrats.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Robert B. Reich on the MSNBC last night slips up here and tells the truth that Democrats and Greenspan were responsible for the experiment that gave houses to people who cannot afford them. Question: ‘Were conservative Democrats part of the problem here?\u2019<\/p>\n

REICH: In the latter years of the Clinton administration — when I was not there any longer, I should add — there was an attempt by Alan Greenspan and Bob Rubin and a few others to deregulate financial markets, and they did. They split commercial banking off from investment banking. And many people say, ‘Well, that was the beginning of the problem,\u2019 and then, of course, in 2003-2004, Alan Greenspan reduced short-term interest rates to the point where every single bank wanted to lend money. I mean, if you could stand up straight you could get a bank loan because there was so much pressure to get that money out the door. Money was so cheap. So, yes, there is some responsibility on Democrats, some responsibility on Alan Greenspan and the Fed.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, notice, notice here that the Labor Secretary wants to distance himself from any of this, and the little code word conservative Democrats. Yeah, Bob Rubin, conservative Democrat, Alan Greenspan, conservative Democrat, right. He slipped up. The point is all of this started back in the Clinton administration. You can find it, and it\u2019s not just Robert B. Reich saying it, there are others, too. I\u2019m looking at the Obama campaign in all of this, folks. I\u2019m watching. Obama is, right now, saying that McCain doesn\u2019t believe in regulating the financial market. McCain just got through saying he wants to investigate them, for crying out loud. But where is Obama? He\u2019s now saying we must build a 21st century regulatory framework. That\u2019s what got us into the problem is more and more government, and he\u2019s going to illustrate the fact that he wants to get more and more. He doesn\u2019t understand what he\u2019s talking about. Do you realize he hasn\u2019t the slightest clue? <\/p>\n

Obama is taking his teleprompter to rodeo appearances! He\u2019s not going to go anywhere without that teleprompter. Now, how many of you have been to a rodeo and seen somebody speaking out there with a teleprompter? And they\u2019re doing this \u2019cause they don\u2019t trust him. They have to keep him on message. When he\u2019s without that prompter, he wanders all over, he\u2019s simplistic. I think this entire Democrat campaign is just simplistic. On the subject of energy, what is their solution? Blame Big Oil. On health care, blame the insurance companies. On the Wall Street problem, blame Republicans. Not enough regulation. In the meantime, Obama doesn\u2019t have an even rudimentary understanding of how this stuff works. He didn\u2019t understand the capital gains tax when Charlie Gibson asked him about it. He has no fundamental understanding of some of the most important institutions that have led to this nation\u2019s greatness. All he has is an anger about them, a disrespect for them, a distrust of them because of how he has been educated. And to listen to Obama say he will change bankruptcy laws so families stay in homes, what, so people who do not have to pay the loans back still get to stay in the house? Is that what you mean? ‘I\u2019ll make our laws work for working people.\u2019 You already did that. You already came up with a bunch of laws that allowed working people who couldn\u2019t afford to buy houses to buy them, and now look where they are? <\/p>\n

I\u2019m telling you, folks, when these Democrats start telling you they\u2019re going to work for you, run for the hills, because what they mean is they are going to work for themselves. Now, about Carly Fiorina, just a couple words here. She said on MSNBC last night, ‘I think you\u2019re confusing John McCain\u2019s position by painting it as hands-off, free market, laissez-faire. I think that has been perhaps true of the Bush administration in the last few years in terms of the Wild, Wild West in terms of no regulation, but it\u2019s definitely not what McCain believes in.\u2019 Now, I like Carly Fiorina. I have never met her, but she presents herself well and the McCain campaign well, but this is a disgrace. This is a disgrace that she either doesn\u2019t know or doesn\u2019t have the presence of mind to tell the truth in this appearance last night. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have been Democrat controlled and run entities since their founding. Democrats have made tens of millions of dollars running them, and they have greased the palms of leading Democrats, including Obama. <\/p>\n

The opposition to reforming them has come from congressional Democrats and former Clinton administration officials. It has been Republicans who did everything they could to try to get some regulation into Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and they were beaten back by the Democrats at every turn when they attempted to try it. Those are the facts. This gratuitous attack on Bush is unnecessary. Bush is not the enemy right now. They\u2019re running against Obama. They are running against Democrats. It\u2019s not good to promote McCain by embracing the lies about a current sitting Republican president. It\u2019s disloyal, it\u2019s dishonest. She owes Bush an apology. She has totally mischaracterized him as a wild west, no regulation cowboy. He was involved in trying to reregulate these things. Bush has been big government regulator in many ways. I understand what they have to do. I understand they have to do. They have to distance McCain from Bush \u2019cause Obama and Biden are now back on this tack that it\u2019s just four more years of Bush. But this is what bothers me about this. I can\u2019t turn on a dime and buy into this dumping on Bush as a way to promote McCain \u2019cause Bush isn\u2019t on the ballot, Bush is not running again, Bush is not the enemy. He is not disliked in a personal way by people that are going to vote for McCain. <\/p>\n

To say Bush is not supportive of regulation is just not true. He supported lots and lots of it. This isn\u2019t about free markets, as I said yesterday. We\u2019re living in a dream world where people think that this is a laissez-faire free market. To not use the opportunity as one of McCain\u2019s — she\u2019s a senior economic advisor. You know, she ran Hewlett-Packard. She\u2019s got a tremendous resume of business achievement and success. Lucent. The woman is a dynamo. But to not have enough information at hand to explain how the Democrats were essentially in charge of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, both as executives and in Congress? Two of the former CEOs of Fannie Mae are working on the Obama campaign as economic advisors. Franklin Raines and a guy named Jim Johnson. To not know the history of efforts by Republicans to reform Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae and then take Gregory\u2019s scenario that this was a Bush and free market failure. Good Lord, folks. We spent the whole day yesterday explaining how the free market had nothing to do with this. This is a result of government getting involved, and now the very people who screwed this up now run it totally. There\u2019s not even the impression of some private sector ownership of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. This is disappointing. The enemy is Obama and his literal lack of understanding and in experience in all these matters. And for that matter, Biden\u2019s, too. <\/p>\n

If you find it necessary to distance yourself from Bush, do it on something other than where the Democrats are a prime target. They are sitting ducks on this. You can tell the people the truth. You can educate them and inform them from the bully pulpit of the campaign. It\u2019s not too complicated. It\u2019s just a shame out there. In fact, San Francisco Chronicle — which is where Carly Fiorina lives — a story by Carolyn Lochhead: ‘Obama Needs a Sister Souljah Moment.\u2019 The thrust of this piece is that Obama should rip the Democrats who protected Fannie and Freddie and allowed this mess to happen. You have to assume here that we\u2019re not talking about a rock-ribbed conservative journalist here. ‘Obama has a golden opportunity with the U.S. financial system falling apart at the seams,\u2019 which it\u2019s not falling apart at the seams. Anybody ever heard of E. F. Hutton? Where are they today? They don\u2019t exist, Snerdley, they went belly up. Remember the commercials? When E. F. Hutton speaks — yeah, well, where are they? These things happen all the time. These investment banking firms go south all the time. This is not the first time this has happened. Everybody\u2019s historical perspective begins with the day the day they were born. No, we\u2019re not teetering on the edge of a depression. <\/p>\n

We still haven\u2019t had one quarter of down economic growth. The Consumer Price Index is plummeting, meaning inflation is plummeting. Oil is at 92 bucks a barrel. The one thing that had people all upset, gas prices, pretty soon they\u2019re going to be down to the three-dollar range again. At any rate, we\u2019re not falling apart at the seams. Let me get back to her piece here. ‘Congressional Democrats were and remain the leading defenders of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, promising to resist efforts to shrink the companies, now under government control, and sell off their assets. Democrats had plenty of help from Republicans, to be sure, but it was mainly conservatives who have been warning for more than a decade that their public risk\/private profit model was a disaster waiting to happen.\u2019 Yes, how in the world can you have a so-called private sector entity — Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae — that\u2019s owned in part by the government and then say it\u2019s private sector? You can\u2019t. <\/p>\n

‘If Obama were to use the financial crisis to rise again above partisan orthodoxy, he might shake people out of their party ruts that they are fast falling into. He would have to do so in a way that people understand — borrowing from the master, Bill Clinton. Obama\u2019s unwillingness to take on his own party is his weakness and McCain\u2019s strength.\u2019 Now, San Francisco Chronicle there, Carolyn Lochhead. But she inadvertently, as does Robert B. Reich, lays the blame squarely at the feet of Democrats. Why in the world can people in San Francisco understand this and Robert Reich and McCain\u2019s leading economic advisor want to blame Bush for this? Damn.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: The real culprits in this meltdown: ‘Barack Obama and Democrats blame the historic financial turmoil on the market. But if it\u2019s dysfunctional, Democrats during the Clinton years are a prime reason for it.\u2019 Let me give you some of the details here from the Investor\u2019s Business Daily editorial. It was the Clinton administration — and we have Robert B. Reich backing this up on television last night — ‘obsessed with multiculturalism, that dictated where mortgage lenders could lend, and originally helped create the market for the high-risk subprime loans now infecting like a retrovirus the balance sheets of many of Wall Street\u2019s most revered institutions. Tough new regulations forced lenders into high-risk areas where they had no choice but to lower lending standards to make the loans that sound business practices had previously guarded against making.\u2019 Robert B. Reich just confirmed this last night on TV. ‘It was either that or face stiff government penalties,\u2019 if you didn\u2019t loan to these people. <\/p>\n

‘The untold story in this whole national crisis is that President Clinton put on steroids the Community Redevelopment Act, a well-intended Carter-era law designed to encourage minority homeownership. And in so doing, he helped create the market for the risky subprime loans that he and Democrats now decry as not only greedy but ‘predatory.” See, the very people that designed the program that led to all of this mess now get to blame the private sector and they\u2019re put back in total control and charge of it. ‘Yes, the market was fueled by greed and overleveraging in the secondary market for subprimes, vis-a-vis mortgaged-backed securities traded on Wall Street. But the seed was planted in the \u201990s by Clinton and his social engineers. They were the political catalyst behind this slow-motion financial train wreck. And it was the Clinton administration that mismanaged the quasi- governmental agencies that over the decades have come to manage the real estate market in America. As soon as Clinton crony Franklin Delano Raines took the helm in 1999 at Fannie Mae, for example, he used it as his personal piggy bank, looting it for a total of almost $100 million in compensation by the time he left in early 2005 under an ethical cloud.\u2019 <\/p>\n

Can I translate that for you? Franklin Raines was a Treasury employee, some sort of cabinet secretary in the Clinton administration. He ends up at Fannie Mae and pays himself a hundred million bucks from 1999 to 2005, and they finally had to get rid of him because the scandal could not be contained. Democrats propped up this, Carly! Bush didn\u2019t do any of this. ‘Other Clinton cronies, including Janet Reno aide Jamie Gorelick, padded their pockets to the tune of another $75 million.\u2019 Gorelick again. ‘In the end, Fannie had to pay a record $400 million civil fine for SEC and other violations, while also agreeing as part of a settlement to make changes in its accounting procedures and ways of managing risk. But it was too little, too late. Raines had reportedly steered Fannie Mae business to subprime giant Countrywide Financial, which was saved from bankruptcy by Bank of America.\u2019 Hello, Mr. Chris Dodd, number one receiver of campaign contributions from Fannie Mae. ‘At the same time, the Clinton administration was pushing Fannie and her brother Freddie Mac to buy more mortgages from low-income households. The Clinton-era corruption, combined with unprecedented catering to affordable-housing lobbyists.\u2019 <\/p>\n

By the way, do you know what affordable housing is? Housing nobody can pay for. Housing that people who live in it can\u2019t pay. Affordable housing, that\u2019s right, is welfare state housing. Next time you hear the term ‘affordable housing\u2019 think welfare state housing paid for by you, me, and all the rest. ‘The Clinton-era corruption, combined with unprecedented catering to affordable-housing lobbyists, resulted in today\u2019s nationalization of both Fannie and Freddie, a move that is expected to cost taxpayers tens of billions of dollars. … But the government-can-do-no-wrong crowd just doesn\u2019t get it. They won\u2019t acknowledge the law of unintended consequences from well- meaning, if misguided, acts.\u2019 So here we are, we\u2019re back to the old excuse, ‘Well, our heart\u2019s were in the right place.\u2019 Forget examining the results, just like the Great Society went south, the war on poverty, all this garbage never works, doesn\u2019t matter, we\u2019re not supposed to examine the results. We\u2019re supposed to examine their good intentions, the size of their hearts. All well and good. Democrats are sitting ducks on this. Democrats are sitting ducks on the energy issue. Democrats are sitting ducks in the culture war. Democrats, Obama, Biden, are sitting ducks on every back-pocket issue that matters to American families, and we\u2019ve got McCain people bashing George Bush. Now, I understand the need for distance here, Bush on popularity. But find something else to do it, like hunting. Folks, it pains me. Obama and the Democrats are sitting ducks on the issue that has Americans feeling unsettled, and that is the economy. Their money. Their houses. Democrats did this! George Bush did not!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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