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RUSH: A woman shows up at Arlen Specter\u2019s town hall today. (Now we\u2019re back to sound bite number 19, Mike.) This is in Lebanon County in Pennsylvania. An audience member had this exchange with Senator Specter.<\/p>\n

SPECTER: Twenty-two?<\/p>\n

WOMAN: Senator Specter.<\/p>\n

SPECTER: Yes, ma\u2019am. Number 22.<\/p>\n

WOMAN: Section 1233 of the proposed health care plan, I thought, ‘What could I possibly ask you to make you read this plan?\u2019 What it says is, as a 74-year-old man, if you develop cancer, we\u2019re pretty much going to write you off because you\u2019re no longer a working citizen who will be paying taxes. What are you going to do about it? You\u2019re here because of the plan we have now.<\/p>\n

SPECTER: Well, you\u2019re just not right. Nobody 74 is going to be written off because they have cancer. That\u2019s a vicious, malicious, untrue rumor! Who\u2019s got the next number?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, she had the bill, and she had read it. The bill doesn\u2019t specifically say, ‘If you\u2019re 74 you get cancer you\u2019re toast.\u2019 It describes the scenario by which the government can decide whether or not it\u2019s worth the investment to treat you, and the woman is trying to say, ‘Why do I want to give up this kind of control over my life? Why do I want to give up this responsibility?\u2019 Senator Specter says that the example she gave isn\u2019t true. But she\u2019s reading from the bill. She\u2019s got it there, and he says it\u2019s a ‘malicious rumor,\u2019 and it\u2019s not. Everybody that\u2019s read this knows about Section 1233 now, and as I pointed out yesterday, even Charles Lane of the Washington Post read Section 1233 and said, ‘You don\u2019t have to be a right-wing wacko\u2019 to find this one totally uncomfortable. Because it mandates all of these end-of-life meetings and counseling sessions with government officials and your doctor to plan your end of care — which, if you\u2019re 74 and have cancer, that means the end of life. People are not stupid. So you\u2019ve got this going on — and, by the way, at that town hall there was no raucous behavior. There were no outrageous people standing up behaving in an impolite way. These people were more informed than Senator Specter was. I have all kinds of sound bites from this and other town meetings. <\/p>\n

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RUSH: A couple sound bites here illustrate for you the euthanasia, the infamous now Section 1233. We played the sound bite of Specter being asked about it today. It\u2019s a malicious lie, and there\u2019s nothing true in that. Yesterday (again on MSNBC), Debbie Wasserman Schultz, a member of Congress from down here in South Florida, was asked the following question: ‘A disproportionate amount of costs spent by people in the final years and final months of their lives, and whether or not how you want to think about that. Your thoughts on whether or not those conversations should be addressed head on by President Obama and other Democrats.\u2019<\/p>\n

SCHULTZ: As far as euthanasia, that is the most ridiculous, uh, accusation that opponents like Rush Limbaugh of this — of this plan are trying to stoke the fires to get people worked up. I represent a — a huge senior citizen population, and obviously any health care plan that — that I\u2019d be supportive of is going to make sure that we are sensitive about people\u2019s health care needs all the way through their lives.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, you can be sensitive all you want when you tell them, ‘Sorry, you don\u2019t get any.\u2019 I wonder if she\u2019s read it. Okay, let\u2019s go back to the horse\u2019s mouth. On tap, on hand, is the discussion of euthanasia. And of course nobody has said that. This is what the Democrats are taking this one word, the Obama supporters, and saying, ‘Euthanasia (grumbling).\u2019 No, it\u2019s just it\u2019s rationing and it\u2019s right there in the bill: Section 1233. It\u2019s all there. Well, let\u2019s go back to President Obama himself, June 24th, ABC, infomercial for Obama in primetime. Audience member Jane Sturm stands up: ‘My mother is now over 105. But at 100, the doctor said to her, ‘I can\u2019t do anything more unless you have a pacemaker.\u2019 I said go for it, she said go for it, but the specialist said no, she\u2019s too old. When the other specialist saw her, saw her joy of life, so on, he said, ‘I\u2019m going for it,\u2019 that was over five years ago. <\/p>\n

‘My question to you is, outside the medical criteria for prolonging life for somebody who\u2019s elderly, is there any consideration that can be given for a certain spirit, a certain joy of living, a quality of life, or is it just a medical cutoff at a certain age?\u2019 Now, let me… Before I play Obama\u2019s answer which you\u2019ve heard, stop and think of what\u2019s happening here. We have an American citizen showing up in the White House at an ABC infomercial, asking the president of the United States, ‘Sir, are you going to take into account my mother\u2019s desire and will to live when doling out health care to her if she\u2019s a hundred years old?\u2019 Now, I can see somebody asking Fidel Castro that question or Hugo Chavez. But in America a citizen shows up and is informed enough to know to ask a question, ‘Mr. President, my mother! What about her will to live?\u2019 The question itself is scary enough. But listen to the answer.<\/p>\n

OBAMA: I don\u2019t think that we can make judgments based on people\u2019s spirit. That would be a pretty subjective decision to be making. I think we have to have rules that say that we are going to provide good, quality care for all people. End-of-life care is one of the most difficult sets of decisions that we\u2019re going to have to make. But understand that those decisions are already being made in one way or another. If they\u2019re not being made under Medicare and Medicaid, they\u2019re being made by private insurers. At least we can let doctors know and your mom know that, you know what, maybe this isn\u2019t going to help. Maybe you\u2019re better off, uhhh, not having the surgery but taking, uh, the painkiller.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Debbie Wasserman Schultz, how do you interpret that answer? And who, by the way, is Barack Obama to be making these judgments anyway? Who is he? The Constitution doesn\u2019t empower the president of the United States to decide who lives and dies. The Constitution doesn\u2019t allow the president to determine who gets health care coverage and who doesn\u2019t, or treatment. (interruption) What? I\u2019m stoking fears by explaining what he means? That\u2019s right. That\u2019s right. That\u2019s right. You know what? You may have a point, Snerdley, because according to Mort Kondracke I should just play this and say, ‘I respectfully disagree with the president\u2019 and move on, and be civil about it. Well, I\u2019m sorry, the president of the United States just told this woman, ‘Ahhhhh, you know, baby, we — whoever we are — will just give your mom the pain pill.\u2019 <\/p>\n

Do you know what ‘Give your mom the pain pill\u2019 means, folks. It means loop her out, let her die, basically unconscious or unaware, \u2019cause it just isn\u2019t going to make sense, maybe. But we\u2019re going to decide that. We\u2019re already deciding it now. You may be deciding it yourself about your grandmother or your mother. You may be deciding it with your doctor. But the United States government, the president of the United States is not issuing the guidelines yet. So I don\u2019t know, Ms. Wasserman Schultz, what\u2019s the deal here? The whole thing about euthanasia is crazy when we just had the president of the United States back in June tell a woman that it might be better off for her 100-year-old mother to just take a pain pill?<\/p>\n

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RUSH: Caroline, Cincinnati, you\u2019re next, EIB Network. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hello. Thank you for taking my call.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yes, madam.<\/p>\n

CALLER: My point is that all these liberal politicians are claiming that all these provisions are just sort of innocent, benevolent provisions. They don\u2019t mean what we think they might mean. And apparently we\u2019re supposed to put on blinders and ignore the reality of what these mean and all these other countries that have socialized medicine. It is inevitable there is going to be rationing. That little innocent mandatory counseling is going to turn into euthanasia, and the fact that they\u2019re claiming this? They think we\u2019re a bunch of idiots.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You know, I\u2019m going to take the occasion of your call to make another point about this. Let\u2019s say that I am a member of Congress. Let\u2019s say I\u2019m Arlen Specter or Dingell, and you\u2019re in a town hall and you come and you say this to me and you tell me that in this bill, there is rationing and it\u2019s going to lead to euthanasia. Now, if you are wrong, I am going to spend as much time as I can, and I\u2019m going to point to the bill and say, ‘No, here\u2019s where you think you\u2019re reading it, but it doesn\u2019t say that. We are not going to be engaged in any euthanasia.\u2019 I\u2019m going to try to disabuse you of the notion, if I think it\u2019s really good. Instead what happens to people like you who show up who ask these questions or make these statements, you\u2019re told, ‘That\u2019s a vicious rumor,\u2019 and, ‘Next question, please!\u2019 There is no attempt to change your mind. All there is is an effort to convince everybody else watching and listening that you\u2019re wrong and that you don\u2019t know what you\u2019re talking about. There is no salesmanship of this whatsoever. But if this euthanasia business as you call it — Section 1233, mandatory end-of-life counseling — and Obama said give them a pain pill instead of surgery. If we\u2019re all wrong about this, then it is time for us to be told why in a persuasive way and that isn\u2019t happening, is it?<\/p>\n

CALLER: No, and it may not happen right away. I mean, God help us all if this thing ever passed there might be money there for a while. There might be some money. But the bottom line is it\u2019s going to run out and sooner or later they\u2019re going to start having their little commissions and committees telling old people what treatments they can get.<\/p>\n

RUSH: We don\u2019t have the money now.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, I know. But there will be the honeymoon period where everybody thinks this is all so great and ‘I have free health care,\u2019 et cetera. But sooner or later — I don\u2019t know how long. Sooner or later it\u2019s going to happen, though — and it\u2019s all in there. It\u2019s all in there and all it has to do is come to life when the money runs out which is what\u2019s going to happen.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I appreciate the call.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Thank you.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you, Caroline, Cincinnati. Somebody just told me… I gotta check this out. I just got an e-mail. Somebody said that during the section of the town meeting Obama is doing right now while he was engaged in this program that he was talking and a standing O erupted with a long applause that segued into, ‘Yes, we can.\u2019 If that happened… (laughing) Well, now, I just don\u2019t think that sentiment for Obama exists. The last time we saw, ‘Yes, we can\u2019 was during the campaign which they\u2019ve revived. I think that\u2019s a sign they\u2019ve overproduced this. They\u2019ve overproduced it. This is not addressing any of the concerns out there. They\u2019re still going out, sending Obama out using this powerful, cult-like leader personality he has to get them over the hump here. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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