{"id":33434,"date":"2009-09-09T01:01:01","date_gmt":"2011-05-19T01:55:30","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2011-05-19T01:55:30","modified_gmt":"2011-05-19T01:55:30","slug":"government_run_health_care_building_block_for_a_fascist_nation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2009\/09\/09\/government_run_health_care_building_block_for_a_fascist_nation\/","title":{"rendered":"Government-Run Health Care: Building Block for a Fascist Nation"},"content":{"rendered":"<section>\n<p>RUSH: Paducah, Kentucky, and this is Sam. Sam, thanks for holding on. I appreciate it.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: That\u2019s okay. Good afternoon, Rush. I\u2019m very glad to be here.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Thank you. So am I.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: I just wanted to bring up the fact that Obama and company cannot lose this fight. If they are ever to realize their dream of some sort of &#8216;progressive,\u2019 socialist system, they must get control of the health care system.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Yes.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Not only because of the financial value of the system but health care has a tremendous symbolic value to them.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Wait. It may have a symbolic value, but it\u2019s far more than symbolic to them. It is substantive. <\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Oh, absolutely!<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: It is the regulation of every citizen\u2019s life to the max.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: That\u2019s the point. And if anything were to prevent that &#8212; for instance, Congress taking a hand and passing some legislation that would actually help the health care system work better without the government control, they\u2019re sunk. They\u2019ve got a good start on taking over the economy; they got the &#8216;stimulus\u2019 bill by without even working with Congress. Another group quote wrote it. They got that through. Now health care is next. If they don\u2019t get this, they\u2019re in really bad shape. That\u2019s why they\u2019re doing all these silly things that they\u2019re doing, saying these silly things, and Obama is running around like a chicken trying to do whatever he can do to salvage this. I don\u2019t think they can do it.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Well, you know (sigh), I am not going to say that this is dead.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: No, it\u2019s not dead.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Because we\u2019re just eight months in or seven months in. This guy\u2019s got four years here, three and a half more years to try to get this.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Oh, they\u2019ll try again. Yeah.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/01125114.Par.89380.ImageFile.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"250\" class=\"alignright\"\/>RUSH: Let me tell you: If they appear to do something that is a cave-in to the public wishes, I\u2019m telling you right now it\u2019s not going to be a cave-in. It\u2019s going to be a lie. Everybody needs to keep a sharp eye on what Max Baucus and this Gang of Six are doing in the Senate to come up with this compromise bill. Because what they\u2019re going to do, what they\u2019re working on is coming up with language that\u2019s going to end up making people think that health insurance is going to be much cheaper. They\u2019re going to limit how much of a deductible you have to pay. They\u2019re going to say they\u2019re going to limit your copay. There will be out-of-pocket maximums that you have to pay, and the illusion is going to be that, &#8216;Wow! Wow! They finally got a bill that makes sense. I\u2019m going to get my insurance and it\u2019s going to cost me less.\u2019 <\/p>\n<p>What\u2019s going to happen, though, it\u2019s going to cause premiums to skyrocket, and people are going to agree to it thinking, &#8216;Well, my costs are going to go down.\u2019 And some Republicans are going to think, &#8216;Oh, wow! I can join this now because costs are going to go down,\u2019 but the point is we\u2019re going to end up with more uninsured than ever before. And that result, the more uninsured, will be the clarion call for a couple years from now: &#8216;Okay, we gotta have national insurance now! Our Senate plan didn\u2019t quite work out as we intended and so we got more uninsured than ever before and we have no choice but now to get a public option.\u2019 They\u2019re going to go about this one way or the other. I tell you it\u2019s not dead. That\u2019s why I said yesterday we\u2019re going to have to be vigilant as we can be. Now, your point that if they lose this, they lose their rationale?<\/p>\n<p>They may lose their rationale, but they\u2019re not going away. See, I actually think that if they get this, ultimately they\u2019re dead. Nobody is going to want to live in a country run by these people with their vision. If they get it, there is going to be a revolt at some point down the line, because people do not want this. Once they experience unadulterated fascism &#8212; once health care is passed, there\u2019s a government option and private insurance is history and gone &#8212; people aren\u2019t going to put up with it. Not in this country. And unless they do something about the Second Amendment and get guns out of everybody\u2019s hands, there\u2019s going to be hell to pay. So I think they lose either way, but we lose if they win. We lose for years if they win. Their rationale goes away if they lose. But you\u2019re right. This is the building block, the building block for a fascist America, the building block for an ever-expanding, growing government. <\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s why that speech to these kids yesterday infuriated me. He doesn\u2019t believe any of that. He doesn\u2019t believe personal responsibility. He doesn\u2019t. Let him give that speech to the country at large. He doesn\u2019t believe a word of it. It\u2019s all lies. Oh, and the AP is reporting that his speech tonight will be 35 minutes, and it will quote, &#8216;answer all the major questions on the contentious issue that has become Obama\u2019s top domestic priority,\u2019 health care. He\u2019s gonna answer all the major questions. Well, now, that\u2019s some challenge! He\u2019s going to answer all the major questions. Basically what he\u2019s going to have to go out there and do and say that everything you\u2019ve heard that you say that\u2019s in the House bill isn\u2019t true. Can he pull this off anymore? Listen, grab sound bite number six first. Then we\u2019ll go back to five. On Good Morning America today the cohost Robin Roberts interviewed Obama. She said, &#8216;Is there a new approach that you\u2019re taking to getting your message across?\u2019<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/01125114.Par.4584.ImageFile.jpg\" width=\"314\" height=\"233\" class=\"alignright\"\/>OBAMA: I, out of an effort to give Congress the ability to do their thing and not, uh, step, uh &#8212; step on their toes, uh, probably, eh, left too m-much ambiguity out there which allowed then opponents of reform to come in and to fill up the air avenues with a lot of nonsense. Everything from this ridiculous idea that we\u2019re setting up death panels to false notions that, uh, this was designed to provide health insurance to illegal immigrants &#8212; and then this broader notion of a government takeover of health care, which none of the bills that worked their way through Congress ever envisioned.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: For crying out loud, this is just unbelievable. I don\u2019t think he\u2019s read the House bill. That\u2019s why he\u2019s going to go out there and &#8216;answer all the major questions.\u2019 Everything he says is not there, is there. Now, of course they\u2019re not called death panels. I\u2019ll give you the analogy I gave you yesterday. The war on poverty. Do you find anywhere in the legislation that set up the war on poverty: &#8216;And, by the way, we intend to destroy the black family\u2019? No! Of course it\u2019s not in there. But it did. The federal government became the father, with all the AFDC, and women were popping babies out &#8212; poor women, not just blacks, poor women all over the country. It just busted up families. To this day it\u2019s a huge problem. Now, the phrase &#8216;death panels\u2019 is not in the House bill, but you\u2019re going to cut Medicare, he says. He told the woman with the hundred-year-old mother, &#8216;No, we don\u2019t think we would calculate somebody\u2019s spirit, spunk, and will to live. Give \u2019em a pain pill.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>For crying out loud, we got the guy on tape on his own television show on ABC saying essentially, at some point it\u2019s not worth the treatment. Now, somebody\u2019s going to have to decide that and he said, &#8216;It\u2019s going to be us,\u2019 and one of the main things that Rahm Emanuel and Obama want in this is to transfer the authority from Congress to the White House to tell doctors what is and is not treatable and what will and will not be spent on Medicare. They want total control of it. That\u2019s national health care! Look, this notion that &#8216;none these bills envision a government takeover of health care\u2019? How in the world can he say this when the House bill 1,018 pages is out there and it\u2019s all about a government takeover? But even without that, it\u2019s pure common sense, my friends. If the government is going to write a health care bill that empowers the government to make all these decisions, what is it?<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s government-run health care, whether it is &#8216;envisioned\u2019 or not. The dirty little secret is that all kinds of rotten things happened that weren\u2019t &#8216;envisioned.\u2019 Every time these clowns get together and come up with a major entitlement program. This is just ridiculous. So he\u2019s going to go out there and answer all these major questions, and he\u2019s going to have to lie through his teeth or he\u2019s going to have to say finally, &#8216;I got a plan,\u2019 and he\u2019s going to have to present a plan that does not have the stuff in it that the House plan has. And maybe that\u2019s what he\u2019s going to do. Maybe he\u2019s going to come out&#8230; This ambiguity. He was too ambiguous. He let the House run the whole thing, he didn\u2019t want to step on their toes and that allowed people to fill up the airwaves with lies. No! It allowed people to read the House bill and tell the American people what was in it. It\u2019s right. Nobody is making anything up. And, by the way, this House bill, this House bill was not written this year. <\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s been sitting in Henry Waxman\u2019s drawer. These people have had this dream and vision. It\u2019s 1,008 pages. Bunch of staff members over the years have written this thing. Look at it! I mean, you go to pages and find, &#8216;This paragraph supersedes this paragraph in this legislation and in that bill over there.\u2019 You\u2019ve gotta go back and look at 15 different bills to figure out what this one means when you read some of the paragraphs. Because this says, &#8216;Well, this paragraph supersedes paragraph 4(a)(x)(y)(z) in US Code Title 35 Zitch,\u2019 whatever it is. It\u2019s impossible to decipher this in some cases, but what is decipherable is an abomination. This way had not been written this year. It\u2019s been in Henry Waxman\u2019s desk and they\u2019ve just had to pull it out. It\u2019s a thousand eighteen pages. So you\u2019ve had some staffers write this. Special interest lobbyists have no doubt contributed to writing this thing. <\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s why Obama didn\u2019t present his own bill; this is his bill. This is the dream of the far, radical left. So if he\u2019s going to go out and present a new bill tonight, a new plan and he\u2019s gonna go, &#8216;This is what I\u2019ve got,\u2019 this is going to be fascinating. Because, as Michael Gerson writes today in the Washington Post: &#8216;Obama\u2019s Crisis: Credibility &#8212; The overwhelming majority of Americans, by the definition of denied care, do not face a health care crisis. &#8230; So perhaps this is the crisis: rising costs that will eventually overwhelm state and federal budgets and consume more and more of individual paychecks. But this is precisely the area where current Democratic approaches are least credible. Obama abandoned his pledge to reduce the government\u2019s health costs long ago; now he only aims at budget neutrality.\u2019 So he\u2019s got a crisis problem and the crisis is his credibility because he\u2019s been so all over the board on this thing and hasn\u2019t been able to answer specific questions. They relied on his &#8216;power\u2019 to transcend the rancor of politics and the &#8216;power\u2019 of his biography and his oratory. And that\u2019s all he\u2019s ever had. He\u2019s got a five-minute career here. It\u2019s all he\u2019s ever had, and it\u2019s gone.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Here\u2019s Sandy in Passaic, New Jersey, I\u2019m glad you waited. Welcome to the EIB Network.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Hey, Rush, you\u2019re always talking about how Obama is lying about everything, but he did tell the truth the other day, I think, when he said that the post office has a real hard time doing things. And we\u2019re wondering ourselves, considering those of us who receive a paycheck didn\u2019t get them on Friday, and it was today before they started handing out money orders to us instead of our paychecks.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Wait, wait, wait. Wait a minute, now. You work for the post office?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Yes, sir.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Okay. And they gave you a money order instead of a paycheck?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Our paychecks were due to be here on Friday. Those people that have direct deposit got theirs. But those paychecks that come to us in the mail didn\u2019t show up.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Now, wait a second. This is a Saturday Night Live script. You work for the post office, and mailed paychecks due Friday didn\u2019t show up so they had to issue money orders?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Yes, sir, and those checks still haven\u2019t shown up.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Well, does that mean the post office has lost them, or were they never sent?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Well, I\u2019m thinking that maybe the money wasn\u2019t there at the time. I don\u2019t know at this point. We\u2019re still looking for some answers but we haven\u2019t gotten them yet.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: I don\u2019t know. The money is not there for anything they\u2019re doing. We are in debt up to our eyeballs and then some. The money is not there for anything. We\u2019re out of money. Folks, we are going to borrow another trillion dollars. The Senate and the House, we need to raise the debt ceiling to $13 trillion in order to keep functioning and they\u2019re going to do that late this week or early next week. The government\u2019s going to borrow $12 trillion, the interest alone on that is going to be $650 billion a year. That\u2019s money that would otherwise be in the private sector for investment capital and expansion and growth and hiring people. Now, we\u2019re going to borrow &#8212; stop and think of this &#8212; we\u2019re going to borrow &#8212; and I don\u2019t think the president is going to talking about this tonight &#8212; we\u2019re going to borrow a trillion dollars just to keep going. And the same day that this is announced, Obama is going to announce a health care program that\u2019s going to cost another trillion dollars. <\/p>\n<p>One of the things I don\u2019t think that they\u2019re aware of in Washington is just how aware and sensitive the people of this country are to this spending problem and have been for a while. So there\u2019s a confluence of events here that does not bode well for Obama. But, remember, what we think, what we care about, what is precious to us doesn\u2019t matter, and the same thing for the Drive-By Media. They have probably already written the stories for after the speech tonight. &#8216;Whoa, what a comeback, what a wonderful comeback, he\u2019s reclaimed the issue, Obama on his game tonight, this is the Obama we remember.\u2019 Because to the State-Controlled Media, it\u2019s all about Obama and his success, it\u2019s not about the people, not about the country, it\u2019s not about policy. Except to the extent that as much liberalism as possible is desired. <\/p>\n<p>Dan in Destin, Florida, welcome to the EIB Network. Hello.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Phil, put down the paintbrush and call in! Oh. Mega panhandle dittos, Rush.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Thank you.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Sir, you stole my thunder in some respects but I tell you, it\u2019s not about health care. I totally agree. It\u2019s yet about another stream of money for the governor, for the Fed to dip into just like they did Social Security. They\u2019re going to rob it blind. I don\u2019t know how we can possibly stop the oligarchy running our government from the federal level, get it back to the states somehow, but it\u2019s all about money.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Well, that\u2019s true. But it\u2019s about more than money, and it\u2019s just as important. I know the answer to every question or almost every question can be answered by &#8216;follow the money.\u2019 And this is clearly about money. But, look, we don\u2019t have any now. They\u2019re printing it. The ChiComs are worried. The ChiComs are even sending us warnings: &#8216;You gotta start printing money like this. You are going to cause worldwide inflation that nobody\u2019s going to be able to handle.\u2019 See, all of this plays into Obama\u2019s hands. Tax revenues are way down because of all the unemployment. He doesn\u2019t care. This crisis fits into exactly what he wants. This is about power. With that power comes the money. This is about control. This is about fascists as opposed to socialism. Socialism is when the government owns everything. Fascism is where private sector owns things but they have no freedom to run them, people like Obama tell them what to do and they become partners and the people in the private sector, corporations the government wants to control, you know, just bend over forwards and grab the ankles, got no choice. That\u2019s how they stay out of jail, stay in good favor with the administration. It\u2019s horrible and that\u2019s the circumstance here. <\/p>\n<p>Sherry in, what is that, Aledo, Texas.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Aledo, Texas. <\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Aledo, Texas. Well, I\u2019m sorry I mispronounced it. It\u2019s the first time I\u2019ve seen it.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: That\u2019s quite all right. I was calling to suggest that the high insurance costs and health care costs are not entirely due to the insurance companies but also the health providers because they don\u2019t post what they charge for things. I went in for an X-ray yesterday, and the place the doctor sent me to was going to cost me $269.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Wait, wait, wait. For an X-ray?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: For an X-ray.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Of what?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: My toe.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: So $269 for a toe X-ray. Okay.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: So I said, &#8216;Is that the best you can do, because that seems a little high.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Wait a minute. You have insurance?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Well, that\u2019s what they asked me and I said, &#8216;Yes,\u2019 and they\u2019re like, &#8216;Okay, never mind.\u2019 But regardless, I want to know what it\u2019s going to cost. So she did get it down to $221, and that still seemed awfully high so I left, and I went home and I called around and I found a place that would do it for $80 but there would also be a charge for the radiologist to read it but she couldn\u2019t tell me how much that was, and referred me to billing. Of course I had to leave a message for billing and they never called me back, but I did finally find a place that would do it for $20.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Paying for it yourself, no insurance?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Yes.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: See?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: See.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: See? Now, that\u2019s a good deal. So your original price was $289 did you say?<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: It was $269.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: It was $269 and you got it whittled down to $221, and then $80 but you didn\u2019t know what the radiologist would charge to read it and finally got it down to $20.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Twenty dollars.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Paying for it yourself.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Paying for it myself.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Didn\u2019t need your insurance.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: But, you know, all the places that I asked how much is this going to cost, nobody knew, nobody could tell me. They had to refer me to somebody else, who didn\u2019t call me back.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Right, because it doesn\u2019t matter because some third party is going to pay it, not you, and there\u2019s a formula, that\u2019s why they don\u2019t know because it\u2019s not up to them. There\u2019s some formula based on whether the insurance company or whoever it is tells them what it\u2019s worth and what they\u2019re going to reimburse them for. That\u2019s why if you do go into places &#8212; you ought to try this, folks, just a standard doctor visit, offer to pay for it yourself, I guarantee you it will cost you less than if you use your insurance. And there\u2019s no deductible, there\u2019s no copay, you just pay it. Try it, see if it works. It worked obviously here for Sherry in Aledo, Texas.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: I had another question. When insurance is nationalized where do all the people go who work for insurance companies? <\/p>\n<p>RUSH: They are unemployed.<\/p>\n<p>CALLER: Yeah. So that\u2019s really going to be good for the country.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Yeah. That\u2019s more crisis for Obama. It\u2019s more uninsured. They\u2019ll have to go on the government option. It\u2019s insidious. Do you think he cares about unemployment now? Anybody running this country in this current economic situation would be devastated, personally devastated over what circumstances the American people are in today, particularly the unemployed and they would be doing something to reverse it. Zip, zero, nada. Stimulus isn\u2019t gonna work anyway. Six percent is what\u2019s been spent. They\u2019re saving the rest of it for 2010, a reelection year. And, by the way, it was in the stack yesterday. I think it\u2019s a Washington Post story, maybe, I\u2019m not sure. It was a story about infrastructure spending down in some big city, and that was the whole point of the stimulus was shovel-ready infrastructure jobs. Anybody with a heart, any president of the United States with a heart would look at this economic mess and would not be doing this, would not have policies anywhere like this, would not be thinking of a health care plan like this and all this borrowing. Folks, this is serious. 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