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RUSH: All right, folks, you want to hear something funny? This is from The Hill, the Capitol Hill newspaper. Headline of the story: ‘Conyers: ‘I\u2019m Getting Tired of Saving Obama\u2019s Can.” Greetings, my friends, and how are you? How is that hope and change working for you? Have you been reduced to eating vending machine cheese and crackers? Welcome to Obama\u2019s America. 800-282-2882 if you want to be on the program. E-mail address, ElRushbo@eibnet.com. (laughing) <\/p>\n

‘President Barack Obama is ‘bowing down\u2019 to Republicans and corporate interests on health reform, Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) said Thursday. … ‘I\u2019m getting tired of saving Obama\u2019s can in the White House. He only won by five votes in the House, and this bill wasn\u2019t even anything to write home about. The only way he could have got it through was that progressives held their nose.\u2019 … he castigated Obama for trying to reach out to conservatives and other adversaries on health reform, accusing the president of doing a ‘disservice\u2019 to what he\u2019d once stood for. ‘Holding hands out and beer on Friday nights in the White House and bowing down to every nutty, right-wing proposal about healthcare and saying on occasion the public option isn\u2019t all that important is doing a disservice to the Barack Obama that I first met, who was an ardent single-payer enthusiast himself.”<\/p>\n

Is Obama bowing down to us? What have I missed? He\u2019s probably talking about the Stupak amendment on abortion. He doesn\u2019t understand Obama. Obama is out there lying, Mr. Conyers. He\u2019s simply saying, (imitating Obama) ‘Oh, single-payer, uh, government-run health option, uh, not that important to me.\u2019 He\u2019s just saying that because he knows nobody is in favor of this. He\u2019s a little smarter than you are, Congressman Conyers. He knows that if he\u2019s dead set honest about what he wants to do it doesn\u2019t have a prayer. Anyway, I detect trouble in paradise with Congressman Conyers there. <\/p>\n

All right, last night on The CBS Evening News, the perky Katie Couric interviewed the Health and Human Services secretary Kathleen Sebelius, and Couric said, ‘Republicans are already out there saying, ‘Let the rationing begin, this is what happens when bureaucrats make your health care decisions.” This is about the mammogram decision. ‘What is your response to that?\u2019<\/p>\n

SEBELIUS: Well, it\u2019s unfortunate that once again the attempt is to, first of all, skew the data and, secondly, to make this a very partisan political debate. This is a panel, actually, appointed by President George Bush, folks who have been on this group for a long time who were given the job of looking at a variety of services and making recommendations based on the science. That\u2019s just what they\u2019ve done. They don\u2019t make policy. They won\u2019t make policy.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Did you hear that last line? They don\u2019t make policy. They won\u2019t make policy. So she will not explain here why the government would not embrace recommendations made by the government. She\u2019s basically saying that the government will not embrace the recommendations made by this task force, which she\u2019s laying off on the Bush administration. Now, she says the recommendations are based on science but the government\u2019s not going to accept them, don\u2019t worry about it, this mammogram, 50, that\u2019s partisan reporting. Do you know that there\u2019s not one radiologist or oncologist on this task force? I don\u2019t care who impaneled it, it\u2019s still a government bureaucracy, there\u2019s not one cancer doctor or radiologist on the commission that recommends delaying breast cancer screenings to age 50. <\/p>\n

We live in the United States of America, for crying out loud. If you are a woman and you want to get screened, you want to get a mammography at age 30, you go get one. Get an insurance company to pay for it or pay for it out of your pocket. If you want one you should get it. Why is it anybody\u2019s business in government to tell you you can\u2019t? So then the perky Katie Couric followed up, ‘Well, how do you stop insurance companies from using the panel\u2019s recommendation that there\u2019s no blanket recommendation for women starting at age 40 to get a baseline mammogram? Why would you think that private insurers won\u2019t take advantage of that and stop covering them?\u2019<\/p>\n

SEBELIUS: Well, at least the statement issued today by the health plans indicated that if there was a doctor recommendation that a woman have a mammogram they were likely to follow it. So I\u2019m taking them at their word. I hope that\u2019s the case.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Uhhh, all of a sudden she\u2019s going to take a statement by health plans, she\u2019s going to take insurance companies at their word? That\u2019s not like this administration. They\u2019re out there demonizing these insurance plans. Let\u2019s not forget, ladies and gentlemen, President Obama at his joint speech to Congress September 9th of this year: ‘And insurance companies will be required to cover with no extra charge, routine checkups and preventive care like mammograms and colonoscopies because there\u2019s no reason we shouldn\u2019t be catching diseases like breast cancer and colon cancer before they get worse. It makes sense; it saves money; it saves lives.\u2019 And his own government recommends delaying, a few short months later, mammogram screenings, breast cancer screenings to age 50. And now she\u2019s out there denying it, Kathleen Sebelius.<\/p>\n

Now, this mammogram issue, if I may pontificate, and I may because it\u2019s my microphone, I paid for it and it\u2019s my show, and Katie is not on the phone to stop me. The mammogram issue, in my estimation, highlights the conflict between the human spirit and organized efforts to suppress that human spirit, which is what this administration\u2019s objective is. To deny mammograms by force of law is like passing a law to prevent home security systems and door locks for homes. They may be expensive. They may be more than what some might think necessary given the burglary rates in an area. But home security systems and fancy door locks bring peace of mind to those living in good neighborhoods and not-so-good neighborhoods. It\u2019s universal, proactive self-defense, an attempt to protect ourselves and our property. Some people may not want any locks. Some may spend a fortune on their security system. It should be an individual decision which yields peace of mind. <\/p>\n

Now, medical tests were meant to be individual in nature because we all have unique health issues. Some of us have genetic familial tendencies for certain cancers, some people heart disease, some people diabetes. Sometimes there\u2019s no explanation, sometimes there\u2019s no clues, people who get lung cancer who have never smoked before. Every human being is unique and doctors will be the first to verify that fact. They don\u2019t treat people in groups of 20. It\u2019s one patient at a time for a reason and as a result, folks, there are no good collective answers for individual problems. That is a profundity and I shall repeat it. There are no good collective answers for individual problems. To limit our options regarding medical care is an assault. It is an attack and people are going to defend themselves against this. Anybody who wants to interfere with the pursuit of life, liberty, and happiness can screw off as far as I\u2019m concerned. They have a fight on their hands. This is a matter of self-defense. We\u2019re all playing defense now against our own government, against our own president. <\/p>\n

That\u2019s why we got a Constitution, by the way, to protect those of us who will not accept budget restrictions as reasons it give up even just a little bit our pursuit of life, liberty, and our pursuit of happiness, especially when we\u2019re all paying for it! For the good of the country? That\u2019s not in the contract. We\u2019re supposed to give up life, liberty, pursuit of happiness for the good of the country, for the good of Obama? That\u2019s not in the deal! It\u2019s our God-given individual right, guaranteed by our Constitution. It isn\u2019t repealable because Congress wants to treat us as budget items when operating with limited resources. And that\u2019s what we\u2019re all going to be, under any health care reform currently being considered. Budget items. We all are genetically programmed, we are created with a will to live. Ted Kennedy comes to mind. As far as I\u2019m concerned, that was the meaning of the end of his life. Ted Kennedy wasn\u2019t told what tests or what treatment he could have. <\/p>\n

Kennedy fought to live until his last breath because he\u2019s human, and everybody applauded his struggle. They were hoping that his struggle would prove worthwhile, and it probably did give him a few extra months that he otherwise would not have had, at the age of 77. No one should have the right to come between anyone, their doctor and treatments. No sane person is going to go down on this with mammograms or whatever without a fight. Self-defense and the will to live came with the package of being born in this country. They weren\u2019t optional. God made \u2019em standard equipment. The will to live and the yearning spirit to be free. Ever since we won the Revolutionary War, Americans have always felt like we were born in the right place, at the right time, and the reason is because we were given the opportunity and the right to be personally in charge of our lives and our destiny. <\/p>\n

No king, no tyrant, no despot, no central planning bureaucrat can take that for any reason. The will to live is God-given, it is constitutionally guaranteed. Anybody who wants to limit that gift is asking for a fight. If our government is going to tell some of us our time is up simply because they\u2019ve decided to, they have no idea the fight they\u2019re going to have on their hands. That\u2019s why there is outrage over an attempt by the government to control mammograms. The outrage that you see is a manifestation of the part of the human spirit called self-defense, a subset of the will to live. It\u2019s just sad that we now are in self-defense mode as we protect ourselves from our public servants. That\u2019s where we are.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Jan in the Bay Area. Nice to have you on the EIB Network. Hello.<\/line> <\/line>CALLER: General Limbaugh, you are a true patriot. And I run to you for cover three hours a day in my fight against the battle of liberalism. Please lead on.<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: Thank you very much. Boy, you are in the bowels of it, too.<\/line> <\/line>CALLER: Hey. Well, you know, I\u2019m just sitting here thinking, ‘I think a Revolutionary War was fought for less tyranny than what this government\u2019s imposing on us right now.\u2019<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: Well, you may have a point once it\u2019s fully implemented.<\/line> <\/line>CALLER: Yeah. So, I have two points I called about, and I\u2019m hoping you can indulge me as much as Katie and we can get through them here. I think I won\u2019t disappoint you. I was one of those people that got a loan modification in the great state of California out here.<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: Would this be a mortgage modification?<\/line> <\/line>CALLER: Yes. On my second.<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: On your second mortgage. This to avoid foreclosure and sending you out in the street in front of city hall with the homeless and the seagulls.<\/line> <\/line>CALLER: Hey, well, I want you to know, even though this is a slush fund, it\u2019s our slush fund. That\u2019s taxpayer money in that slush fund.<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: I know, I know. That\u2019s one way of looking at it: it\u2019s your money.<\/line> <\/line>CALLER: Okay, all right? And this is tied to health care, and it\u2019s tied to the economy. It is the economy, stupid, Nancy Pelosi. It\u2019s not health care. Nancy and Harry are fiddling while America burns and it\u2019s really frying me. Okay, I got a loan modification on my second. As you know in California, the price of houses are so high, most people get a conforming rate on the first part of their loan, and then they get whatever better rate they can get on a second, and then you\u2019re not paying this high rate on the whole loan.<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: Oh, yeah, I knew that.<\/line> <\/line>CALLER: Yes. Okay. So my first is with my credit union. They don\u2019t have any bailout money, so they can\u2019t help me permanently. But my second was with CitiMortgage, and they got lots of bailout money. But, you know, they want you to miss a payment before they even do anything for you. I tried for six months because I —<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: Wait a minute. You\u2019re serious?<\/line> <\/line>CALLER: I\u2019m serious.<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: They want — they want you to miss a payment?<\/line> <\/line>CALLER: They do. They do. And I tried for six months to do this without missing a payment. I have pristine credit, and my husband and I — and we checked our credit record after this and the only thing we have on our credit is one late payment on our first and our second, and it was only because we plain ran out of money, it wasn\u2019t because we wanted to.<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: Right. Let me ask you a question.<\/line> <\/line>CALLER: Yes.<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: Not that I\u2019m bored, because I\u2019m fascinated by the story. How much more is there? Because I\u2019ve only got ten seconds.<\/line> <\/line>CALLER: Can you hold me through the bottom of the hour?<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: Gladly.<\/line> <\/line>CALLER: Oh, thank you! <\/line> <\/line>RUSH: Well, I\u2019ll put you on hold.<\/line> <\/line>CALLER: Okay.<\/line> <\/line>RUSH: I\u2019m a word literalist. If I could hold you, I would, but you\u2019re a continent away.<\/line><\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: And we are back, and we now rejoin Jan in the Bay Area. You were talking about your credit rating, you had to miss a payment before they\u2019d let you in the program.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Right, and not because I wanted to. But I worked with them, we tried to work with them for six months, and, you know, I was telling Bo, I borrowed from my 401(k) to try and stay afloat because I believe in making my own way in life. But, you know, they helped us out there, that they say, very difficult to get and I was very naive to think that if I was going to, you know, go into foreclosure, I could borrow from my 401(k), and I do read all paperwork before I sign it, Rush. But you have to be in, you know, the depths like six months into foreclosure before you can borrow from your 401(k), and I didn\u2019t want to be there. So the big key word for anybody looking for a house is loss of income. My husband is an insurance agent, and he sells homeowners and he sells auto insurance. Nobody is buying new homes in California and except for the little blip on the radar screen of Cash for Clunkers, nobody\u2019s buying new cars. Our income is off 40% from when we bought our house five years ago. And you can\u2019t weather that kind of storm, and we\u2019ve put $500 a month away in our 401(k) because there was a match from his company. So it\u2019s not like I\u2019m an idiot out here not saving money, but I was deceived as to the access to that money in my 401(k). I knew I would have penalties —<\/p>\n

RUSH: So what is your conclusion, then?<\/p>\n

CALLER: What is my conclusion? I\u2019m mad at these politicians because I beat myself up for months, Rush, laying in bed every night trying to figure out how I was going to pay my bills. You know, I called you before. I have four girls that I homeschool, and we did that Rush worship live? Do you remember that?<\/p>\n

RUSH: I do.<\/p>\n

CALLER: On Jay Leno. They have something they want to say to you right now.<\/p>\n

KIDS: We salute you, General Limbaugh!<\/p>\n

CALLER: They love you. They\u2019re running around the house trying to figure out how they can talk to you again.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Tell \u2019em I heard \u2019em.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Okay, good, they said ‘We salute you, General Limbaugh.\u2019 But, you know, I\u2019m not a slouch. That\u2019s what I\u2019m trying to tell you. I am trying to weather the storm. I mean I borrowed from the 401(k). We\u2019re trying to do anything to make it out, but I see double-dip recession, I see inflation kicking in, I see the cost of my food, my power, they raise my power, now my water company, there\u2019s a water shortage, we all conserve so well, guess what, we\u2019re raising your rates because no one\u2019s using any water.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I know. <\/p>\n

CALLER: I can\u2019t do it. I can\u2019t do it. And health care is going to raise my taxes. Can\u2019t you people see it, okay? It\u2019s going to put me under. I\u2019m not going to be able to pay my property taxes, and they want to take away my Prop 13 out here in California. I can\u2019t do any more taxes. I\u2019m just hanging on by a thread hoping things will turn around. My husband\u2019s a hard worker, but I\u2019m a stay-at-home mom.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah.<\/p>\n

CALLER: We value the homeschooling more than we value me getting a job, but don\u2019t worry, I\u2019ve been looking for a job but I\u2019ve been out of the market 15 years and still I\u2019m trying.<\/p>\n

RUSH: On top of all this there\u2019s an Eggo shortage.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hey, I make my own waffles, Rush.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, you\u2019re not going to be impacted by that at least.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I want you to know that and you know what else I want you to know? You did a story a while back on women that take the birth control pill. I don\u2019t because of the high risk of breast cancer in my family and now they want to take away my mammogram, but I want you to know what kind of woman I am, I like a manly man, I\u2019ve never taken the pill in my life. Do you remember that story?<\/p>\n

RUSH: The last time you called?<\/p>\n

CALLER: No, no, no. The news story.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Not only birth control, but there are studies that say abortions increase the chances of breast cancer as well.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Right. And I have such a high incidence, my mom, both of her sisters died of breast cancer, four out of six of my great aunts had breast cancer, and a couple of my cousins have had it. Fortunately my mom and my sister and I have been spared, but I just can\u2019t believe the overreaching this government is doing —<\/p>\n

RUSH: See, after you laid out the specifics of — you\u2019re very honest in doing so — of your situation, you look at the purposeful destruction of the private sector where the recovery for you and your family lurks has gotta make you even angrier because every policy they have implemented is further doing you in.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hey, and it\u2019s not just me. I can name countless people, and, you know, people are saying, ‘Be happy you have a job.\u2019 I have so many friends and family out here that have taken big, drastic pay cuts, and we are happy we have a job. Don\u2019t get us wrong. But it doesn\u2019t pay the bills. My brother, he works two jobs. He works for a — you know what? I want to tell you this, too. Those cheese and crackers in the vending machines, they\u2019re pretty steep. My brother stocks those things. And you know who can still buy \u2019em? The people in Oakland, his business is good there because they get their paycheck no matter what from the government.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Right.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I know that sounds racist. I\u2019m sorry.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, what\u2019s racist about it?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Because they get a paycheck when everyone else doesn\u2019t.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, they\u2019re not the only ones. Look, we\u2019re at the point now where 50% of the American people get some kind of a check from the government, 50%, and it\u2019s increasing, and that also is by design. Well, Jan, God bless you. She held on here for an hour-and-a-half, which is why I gave her a little time here. I understand the plight that you\u2019re in. So many people are in it, too. I think people like you are not being reported on, you\u2019re not being represented in any polling data, but there are far more people in your circumstance and have the same emotion you have about it than anybody in the news media is reporting about it, and that anybody in Washington cares about. That\u2019s what\u2019s just infuriating to me because none of this is necessary. We could have been on our way out of this months ago. We need not even have been in it this deep. It has been made worse by this administration and its policies. Best of luck to you, and I\u2019m glad you called. Nice to talk to you. <\/p>\n

This is Craig in Texarkana, Arkansas. You\u2019re next. It\u2019s great to have you here. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah, Rush, good to talk to you. The reason I called is I was just wanting to let everybody know out there that I\u2019ve been hearing a lot on the radio and the news about the unions all supporting, you know, the health care bill and things, and there\u2019s a lot of us union members out here that are conservative who work in plants that are union plants, and we are definitely, and in this area a majority of the our union people are definitely against this health care bill. And I just would like to — all others, there\u2019s other union plants across the states, you know, they need to call in to the senators and our congressman. Pryor is planning on voting to let this thing go on further. And if they would call in and let \u2019em know, ‘Yeah, I\u2019m a union member and we don\u2019t approve of this and we are going to affect your vote next time you run if –‘<\/p>\n

RUSH: Here\u2019s the thing. I know you\u2019re right. I am sure there are a lot of rank-and-file union people who are appalled at what\u2019s going on, but you\u2019re powerless. I mean the members of the Service Employees International Union headed up by Andy Stern, Andy Stern the most frequent visitor to the White House, he and Obama are practically blood brothers, they are both of the same political ideology and mind-set, and that is the destruction of the private sector, the expansion of the public sector where all union employment they hope to be someday, and even if there are members of the SEIU, the working people of that union who oppose what Andy Stern\u2019s doing, they can\u2019t stop it. Andy Stern raised $60 million for Obama, one guy, and his union put together $60 million for Obama during the campaign, $60 million. Money talks and that came from union dues and who knows where else. But it\u2019s the union leadership that\u2019s in bed with the Democrat Party, and you guys, of your mind-set in the union, you\u2019re just having your dues stolen from you or taken from you and used in ways that you wouldn\u2019t otherwise use the money.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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