{"id":34085,"date":"2009-12-02T01:01:01","date_gmt":"2011-05-19T01:40:07","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2011-05-19T01:40:07","modified_gmt":"2011-05-19T01:40:07","slug":"tortured_state_run_media_try_to_praise_nonsensical_obama_speech","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2009\/12\/02\/tortured_state_run_media_try_to_praise_nonsensical_obama_speech\/","title":{"rendered":"Tortured State-Run Media Try to Praise Nonsensical Obama Speech"},"content":{"rendered":"<section>\n<p>RUSH: Last night on CBS coverage, Katie Couric spoke with Bob Schieffer after the speech. She asked Bob Schieffer, &#8216;How convincing do you think the president was tonight in terms of supporting his decision?\u2019<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/01125108.Par.89380.ImageFile.jpg\" width=\"350\" height=\"260\" class=\"alignright\"\/>SCHIEFFER: The president always makes a very eloquent speech, but we\u2019ll look back on this and say, &#8216;This was the defining moment of the Obama presidency.\u2019 This was the night when Barack Obama took full ownership of the war in Afghanistan. What the comment on this speech is going to be all about is, is the strategy itself. How do you on the one hand say, &#8216;We need to send these troops over there. It\u2019s critical. This is in our national security interests to do this,\u2019 but then say, &#8216;Uh, but we\u2019re only going to keep \u2019em there for 18 months. We\u2019re going to start to withdraw them\u2019? I just don\u2019t understand the logic of how that works.<\/p>\n<p>COURIC: But isn\u2019t it a delicate&#8230;?<\/p>\n<p>SCHIEFFER: I don\u2019t understand how you can set a deadline. You know, this is not a football game where there\u2019s a clock where the time runs out. To win this war you have to defeat the enemy. How can we say in the beginning that we\u2019re going to do that when we don\u2019t know what\u2019s going to happen?<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: That\u2019s classic! We gotta keep that in the archives forever. There\u2019s old Bob Schieffer on CBS saying it doesn\u2019t make sense, Katie. It doesn\u2019t make sense. This is right up there with the Brokaw bites (doing Brokaw impression), &#8216;We don\u2019t really know much about Barack Obama, what books he\u2019s read, people he knows.\u2019 It\u2019s the defining moment of the Obama presidency, but gosh, it just makes no sense. The defining moment of the Obama presidency, according to CBS, makes no sense! He\u2019s right. It doesn\u2019t make any sense. The surprising thing to me to me is that Schieffer wants to defeat the enemy. (interruption) That\u2019s that, Snerdley? Well, I know he\u2019s a World War II guy, but&#8230; Okay, maybe I\u2019ll rethink that. David Gergen is also in crisis. David &#8216;Rodham\u2019 Gergen is in crisis. CNN\u2019s Special Decision Afghanistan. After Obama spoke, Anderson Cooper spoke with David &#8216;Rodham\u2019 Gergen. &#8216;Can he have it both ways: A troop increase and then kind of announcing withdrawal?\u2019<\/p>\n<p>GERGEN: I don\u2019t think he succeeded tonight doing the most important thing he hoped to do, and that was to rally the country, to heal the wounds and rally the country behind him. I &#8212; I &#8212; I just don\u2019t think it happened. Um, we\u2019ve given too little credit to the president and the people around him in developing his policy. They understand this extremely well. One could not always say that about the Bush administration sometimes when they went to war. They do have a sophisticated approach. I don\u2019t think they explained it very well. It\u2019s not as crazy as it sounds, at the beginning: &#8216;The cavalry is coming but they ain\u2019t staying long,\u2019 which was sort of the message of the speech.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: You talk about tortured? You talk about tortured! This a guy bending over backwards, forwards, sideways to praise this thing. &#8216;They\u2019re smart! They\u2019re really smarter than the Bush administration. Oh, yeah. Sophisticated, much smarter than Bush. But the strategy is nonsensical here, Anderson. Send the cavalry in, and you take \u2019em out? I think you can pull it off, I really do. It\u2019s not as crazy as it sounds, but it\u2019s crazy. It\u2019s sophisticated nonsense out there. They\u2019re really smarter than the Bush people. I think they really know what they\u2019re doing. The speech didn\u2019t quite make any sense. I mean, it does make sense, but it didn\u2019t make sense. You going to send the cavalry out there, going to bring them back in. I think it\u2019s not as crazy as it sounds, but it\u2019s crazy.\u2019 That\u2019s the translation of what you just heard.<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Now, folks, let\u2019s go to perhaps the reigning smartest, ahem, conservative, ahem, in the room, David Brooks, last night on PBS with Jim Lehrer, &#8216;Obama didn\u2019t say get out.\u2019<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/01125108.Par.4584.ImageFile.jpg\" width=\"350\" height=\"201\" class=\"alignright\"\/>BROOKS: It\u2019s a way of going to war in a way that\u2019s quite limited. I\u2019m not sure I\u2019ve ever seen a country go to war in this fashion, but it\u2019s going to be what we\u2019re going to try.<\/p>\n<p>LEHRER: Did you have a sense that history was being made? No president has ever done this before, said, &#8216;Okay we\u2019re going to escalate, but we\u2019re going to escalate toward a conclusion by a date.\u2019 Has that ever happened before?<\/p>\n<p>BROOKS: Yeah, and I really don\u2019t know what to make of it because it will be some comfort to the skeptics of the war, but how will the people in Afghanistan feel, how will the government feel, how will the Taliban feel? That\u2019s sort of unknown to me. The other big gap in the speech that I thought that I\u2019m still waiting for is how exactly we\u2019re going to fight this war.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Now remember, this is the guy who loves the crease in Obama\u2019s slacks, I mean he really has a good tailor, very sophisticated. So all these people in the tank for Obama are just confused. You note, ladies and gentlemen, the only people not confused are you and I. I can tell you how the Taliban are going to feel. I frankly don\u2019t care how they feel, but I know what they\u2019re going to do. They\u2019re going to sit around and they\u2019re going to terrorize the villagers, and they\u2019re going to say, &#8216;Look, the Americans are going to get outta here in 18 months. We\u2019re going to be here after they leave. You choose sides right now, and we\u2019ll be watching.\u2019 That\u2019s what\u2019s going to happen. We\u2019re going to have no allies. We\u2019re going to get no cooperation like we had in Iraq and the surge there. We\u2019re not going to get anything like that. (imitating Obama) &#8216;I don\u2019t know how the Taliban feels about this, I\u2019ve never seen a country go to war like this before, I really don\u2019t know what to make of it because he\u2019s such a smart guy, Obama\u2019s such a brilliant, sophisticated guy. I really don\u2019t know what to make of it. Maybe I\u2019m not smart enough to figure it out,\u2019 Brooks is saying. <\/p>\n<p>And then Jim Lehrer is doing his level best to promote this, &#8216;This is incredible, history being made, no president\u2019s ever done this before. Wow. Wow. We\u2019re going to escalate but we\u2019re going to escalate toward a conclusion by a date, wow.\u2019 Trying to make this FDResque or Churchillesque. I have the greatest time listening to these pointy-headed know-nothing intellectuals wring their hands over this and try to make sense of their smart buddy, their elitist fellow Ivy Leaguer just making a fool of himself, &#8216;I don\u2019t know what to make of it, never seen it done before, well, I don\u2019t think it\u2019s going to work, crazy to send the cavalry in there and pull them back out. I don\u2019t know, smart guy, though, they\u2019re far more sophisticated than the Bush people. We gotta give them that but, boy, I don\u2019t know, guess it could work, but I don\u2019t think it can.\u2019<\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Bob Schieffer. Bob Schieffer said, &#8216;I don\u2019t understand it. I do not understand how you can do this. You go out there&#8230; It\u2019s not a football game where there\u2019s a time limit and when the time limit\u2019s over&#8230;\u2019 That\u2019s a good point. Think of the speech and look at it in light of a pregame pep talk. Imagine Obama as a coach of a football team with that speech. It\u2019s brutally bad, folks, it was horribly incoherent and it was so narcissistically self-absorbed that it was &#8212; to me it was &#8212; an abomination, and I am not trying to be overly critical. Now, in the context of the speech, Obama said last night (again, bashing the Bush administration) that requests by commanders on the ground in Afghanistan for five years for more troops were never answered. <\/p>\n<p>BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Now, back to some audio sound bites, ladies and gentlemen. We just heard from David Brooks, struggling to accept a nonsensical strategy from his intellectually superior and nuanced president. Here is Howard Fineman, post-speech, MSNBC. Question: &#8216;How did the speech go? Could it have changed minds in any direction?\u2019<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live-rush-limbaugh.pantheonsite.io\/wp-content\/uploads\/01125108.Par.44878.ImageFile.jpg\" width=\"350\" height=\"413\" class=\"alignright\"\/>FINEMAN: Not based on soundings that I\u2019ve taken &#8212; e-mailing with people, talking on the phone, checking out the blogs. I don\u2019t think he changed many minds one way or the other. I think it will be viewed realistically by everybody all across the spectrum. Dick Cheney\u2019s already sounded his notes. People like McCain sounded theirs. Senator Dick Durbin, one of Barack Obama\u2019s earliest supporters, issuing a very terse statement tonight, saying, you know, it took the president a long time to decide this strategy. It\u2019s going to take me awhile to decide what I want to say. On the blogs, at least the ones that I looked at right away, a kind of grudging understanding that he was making a grim, calculated defense of the existing strategy.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: A grim minimalist defense of strategy. And Fineman says it did not satisfy the base. He\u2019s going to have no base when he needs \u2019em. Here\u2019s Maxine Waters again on MSNBC, post-speech. She was asked if she was for or against, or both, the new strategy.<\/p>\n<p>WATERS: I\u2019m terribly saddened. After having listened to the speech, I felt that this, uh, young, bright, articulate president, uh, who wants to do the right thing but made commitments during his campaign that he was going into Afghanistan. He was going to get Osama Bin Laden, and now he\u2019s back against the wall, uh, with a strategy that I think has no end. It doesn\u2019t really resonate for me. I\u2019m saddened because 30,000, uh, new troops are going to go into Afghanistan. I guess they\u2019re going to be fighting in Pakistan and Afghanistan, Al-Qaeda, and Taliban &#8212; and where does it end? And what do we do? We have to kill all of the Taliban and we\u2019re going to try and transition that government into a democracy? I don\u2019t get it. It doesn\u2019t work for me.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: So Maxine Waters. We are so honored, ladies and gentlemen, to be alive to share in the raw intellect of so many members of the Democrat Party. Maxine Waters especially. I hope you take a moment to give thanks to whoever you thank, that you happen to be born at a time when you lived on the planet at the same time as Maxine Waters, so that you and all of us could benefit from the brilliance, the articulation that we just heard. It\u2019s so rare to be in the midst of this kind of blinding smartness. She\u2019s just saddened that the young, bright president has been forced to keep his campaign promise, which we all know was just a campaign promise. Last night on CNN, after Obama spoke, the Pentagon correspondent Barbara Starr.<\/p>\n<p>STARR: What the president did tonight is he put boundaries around what the military will do. He spoke right here about what we can achieve at &#8216;a reasonable cost.\u2019 He has put boundaries around it. This is not overwhelming force, this is not overwhelming diplomacy, not overwhelming economic aid. All of this is boundaries. Uh, not to be flip about it, if there\u2019s any good news tonight maybe it\u2019s that there weren\u2019t any gate crashers at West Point. (haughty laughter) As far as we know.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: Oh! Oh-ho ho! Ohhhh! Ladies and gentlemen, the long knives are out in the State-Controlled Media. From Bob Schieffer, to David Brooks, to David &#8216;Rodham\u2019 Gergen, to Howard Fineman &#8212; and now Barbara Starr at CNN: The only good news is there weren\u2019t any gate crashers at West Point. But we can always count on F. Chuck Todd.<\/p>\n<p>TODD: You gotta say this about the president. By putting this July 2011 date out there, he\u2019s basically saying, &#8216;Look, judge me in the first term. I\u2019m making this Afghanistan policy part of the referendum on my presidency.\u2019 That\u2019s a gutsy move.<\/p>\n<p>RUSH: F. Chuck Todd: &#8216;a gutsy move.\u2019 No, F. Chuck, it\u2019s&#8230; (laughing) It\u2019s a purely calculated political move. 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