{"id":348306,"date":"2020-05-12T16:03:00","date_gmt":"2020-05-12T20:03:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/admin.rushlimbaugh.com\/?p=348306"},"modified":"2020-05-13T15:50:58","modified_gmt":"2020-05-13T19:50:58","slug":"frustrated-citizens-want-the-president-to-push-back-against-the-doom-doctors","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2020\/05\/12\/frustrated-citizens-want-the-president-to-push-back-against-the-doom-doctors\/","title":{"rendered":"Skeptical Callers Urge the President to Push Back Against the Doom Doctors"},"content":{"rendered":"

RUSH: We\u2019re gonna go to Boston, still-shut-down Boston. This is Alex. And welcome, sir. Great to have you with us.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hi, Rush. God bless you, and we\u2019re all praying for your health.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you. Thank you, sir, very much.<\/p>\n

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CALLER: Look, Rush, I support President Trump. I\u2019m voting for him in November no matter what. But I am mad at him. I\u2019m furious. Because he will not seriously push back at the people who are trying to destroy him. You keep talking about pushback, you keep saying this is what pushback it looks like. But the president barely\u2019s pushing. He\u2019s pushing with just one finger, and we need to use both hands, and we need him to put his back into it.<\/p>\n

I can give you examples if you want them, but the bottom line is this, Rush. He\u2019s the most powerful man in the world. But he acts like he\u2019s just a guy with a popular Twitter account. I love his tweets. I read his tweets. I want him to keep tweeting. But we need more action. We need him to fight fire with fire.<\/p>\n

RUSH: What are you hoping by now he would have done that he hasn\u2019t done? And don\u2019t infer an accusatory tone. I don\u2019t mean that. What do you want more than the tweets? What pushback has not been satisfactory?<\/p>\n

CALLER: No, you\u2019re right, Rush. It\u2019s the right question. My point is he hasn\u2019t declassified, he hasn\u2019t prosecuted, and now he\u2019s letting Fauci and Birx lie about the coronavirus. And it\u2019s tearing the country apart.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah, that last part I know a lot of people are concerned about. And how do you battle them? Fauci particularly, you\u2019re not gonna dislodge him.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Rush, he used his own words, all right? Dr. Fauci told 60 Minutes in March — it\u2019s on video — that face coverings don\u2019t work. He didn\u2019t use these words, but essentially he said they\u2019re public health fear. And nobody\u2019s talking about that now. Nobody asks him. The president plays clips during his press conferences, but he won\u2019t play that clip. We have more testing than we need right now, Rush. There are credible reports of testing sites closing because they don\u2019t have enough patients. But we\u2019re not talking about that.<\/p>\n

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The lockdowns don\u2019t work. The virus has continued to spread despite the fact that every state has some kind of lockdown. Only the economy stopped, not the virus. But we don\u2019t talk about that. And don\u2019t get me started, Rush, on the fatality rate. This virus is on par with the flu when you consider all of the uncounted infections, all of the —<\/p>\n

RUSH: I\u2019m glad I stuck with this, because now I know what your real irritation is about. It\u2019s not that Trump\u2019s not pushing back on the Russian collusion stuff. You think that he\u2019s being run roughshod over by these health people.<\/p>\n

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RUSH: Bill in Long Valley, New Jersey. Great to have you, sir. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hi, Rush. How are you doing? Longtime listener since your ABC local two-hour show from many moons ago.<\/p>\n

RUSH: That\u2019s a long time ago. Thank you.<\/p>\n

CALLER: My point on this is that as soon as the information came about that the data on the deaths was comparable to the flu in terms of age demographics, and seeing that it was the older people that were affected, that\u2019s exactly when this order to go back to work should have occurred. It\u2019s too late now.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Why is it too late?<\/p>\n

CALLER: It\u2019s too late in terms of they\u2019ve already missed the mark on it. You have scared people literally to death, and now no one wants to make a move. If it had been done after the initial two weeks — which myself and most people agreed on — you were dealing with something brand-new that you didn\u2019t know.<\/p>\n

Once you realize that the breakdown on deaths was comparable to other medical problems and the workforce was not the force that was affected, that is the time to get the working-age population — the 20 to 60 — back into the workforce. Sure, people might get sick, but they weren\u2019t gonna be dying.<\/p>\n

RUSH: You\u2019re the second caller in a row who has offered the viewpoint that death rate, the mortality rate is way exaggerated, that it\u2019s not as deadly — you don\u2019t think as deadly — as it is being portrayed as being?<\/p>\n

CALLER: No. I\u2019m not saying it\u2019s not deadly. What I\u2019m saying is it didn\u2019t affect people from 20 to 50. It affects people — like most diseases and illnesses — who are 75-plus. So those people aren\u2019t in the workforce in general anyway.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay, I think that\u2019s true. I\u2019m sitting here as you go through this. I\u2019m wondering, what would be the result if every flu season the news coverage of the arrival of each new flu strain was exactly like this for coronavirus? What if we did everything the same?<\/p>\n

We quarantined, we shut down, we told people they can\u2019t go to work. We told people they\u2019ve gotta do this or that or the other thing, warned people they could die. Of course, you can\u2019t draw a perfect analogy \u2019cause we\u2019ve got what people think are vaccines. We\u2019ve got flu shots.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Sure.<\/p>\n

RUSH: And we don\u2019t have something like that for this. But still, if you cover the flu every season like this you could shut down your country as easily as they\u2019ve done here.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Sure. Fewer people would die. But the collateral damage is staggering, absolutely staggering. You have… I\u2019m gonna make an early prediction for 2024, the presidential election. They\u2019re gonna say that actions taken today have reduced the death rate to the flu, and that the older people are not dying in as high numbers in four years because of actions taken today. Of course, the reason is people that might have died four years from now, maybe were killed by the coronavirus this year. So you\u2019re gonna see flu seasons not be as dramatic in the next four to five years, and they\u2019re gonna take credit for it as actions taken today (crosstalk).<\/p>\n

RUSH: Oh, there\u2019s no question about that. That\u2019s exactly true. What do you think this hearing was about today? Laying the groundwork for taking credit for caring, for getting involved, for being an eagle eye on this thing. No, you\u2019re absolutely right about flu deaths, \u2019cause they\u2019re attaching COVID-19 to — very much — everything death they can.<\/p>\n

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By “they,” I mean the health officials in various cities and states. And Dr. Birx has even admitted that they\u2019re doing this.<\/a> If you die with COVID-19, they\u2019re gonna put on your death certificate you died because of it, and so the number of people dying attributed to COVID-19\u2019s gonna be skyrocketing, meaning that people who die from the flu in ensuing years is gonna appear to be way down, if that\u2019s all dealt with honestly and aboveboard as well.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Here is Susan, San Antonio, Texas. It\u2019s great to have you. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hi. Hello, Rush. I am a retired infectious disease specialist, and I just wanted to point out that the same career bureaucrats — I\u2019ve been watching this unfold with Fauci — the same career bureaucrats that have told us over the decades that he is brilliant and perfect and all this, are the same ones that gave us the information on Mueller, that he was a man of high integrity and character and just couldn\u2019t be questioned.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yep.<\/p>\n

CALLER: And I\u2019m watching all this unfold, and these public health officials and these bloated bureaucracies for our public health have been completely blindsided. And I want to point out that Taiwan and Singapore were not blindsided. They saw this coming and they slammed into place the protocols that everyone had developed during the SARS epidemic immediately because they don\u2019t trust the communist Chinese and knew better.<\/p>\n

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When they heard there was an epidemic occurring in Wuhan, they knew to shut down their flights in from there and to put into place immediately their protocols. Because we all learned from the experience in Toronto during the SARS epidemic and put protocols into place for exactly this sort of thing, it could be implemented, you know —<\/p>\n

RUSH: They weren\u2019t. And, I tell you what. There are a lot of people in these positions that should not be in them because of pre-demonstrated incompetence in dealing with things like SARS or AIDS or what have. Anyway, I appreciate the call, Susan. Sadly, I\u2019m out of busy broadcast moments for this time.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

\"\"RUSH: Now look at these headlines. AP: “As Trump Urges Reopening, Thousands Getting Sick on the Job.”<\/a><\/p>\n

“Fauci Warns of ‘Suffering and Death\u2019 if U.S. Opens Too Soon.”<\/a><\/p>\n

“Accidental Poisonings from Bleach Spike Amid Coronavirus.”<\/a><\/p>\n

It\u2019s absurd what\u2019s happening out there.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Jack in Tampa. It\u2019s great to have you, sir. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hey, Rush. It\u2019s Jackson from Tampa. I just wanted say that this whole quarantine business was just unnecessary, and it really is a political scandal, probably the biggest one I could ever imagine. Our immune system has specialized cells called plasma B cells that once (unintelligible) T helper cells kill the virus after infection. They carry the genetic code from that virus, the complete genetic code to these plasma B cells.<\/p>\n

Now, you have plasma B cells and you have memory B cells. The memory B cells are what store that genetic code for at least the duration of flu season. So we\u2019ll say eight to 12 months, okay. Those plasma B cells start producing the antibodies. And once you\u2019re infected again, then those antibodies actually shut down that virus\u2019 necessary metabolic pathways —<\/p>\n

RUSH: So you\u2019re an advocate of herd immunity. Let people get this and let them —<\/p>\n

CALLER: Herd immunity.<\/p>\n

RUSH: — spread the immunity to it and be done with it?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Exactly right. That\u2019s the only true immunity. Now, once enough people — that\u2019s called humoral immunity. When individuals get infected and they have the immunity, that\u2019s humoral. Once enough of the population has that immunity, it creates rather a barrier, and they\u2019re no longer a healthy host, viable host for that virus, so that\u2019s herd immunity. It\u2019s like building a wall around the elderly —<\/p>\n

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RUSH: Okay. So how many deaths should people be willing to tolerate to establish herd immunity?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, we have a vaccine for the flu, and over 62,000 —<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, we don\u2019t.<\/p>\n

CALLER: — died last year.<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, we don\u2019t. We don\u2019t have a vaccine for the flu.<\/p>\n

CALLER: But we have a flu vaccine each year.<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, we don\u2019t. We do not. We do not have a flu vaccine. There isn\u2019t somewhere where you can go and got shot up and be guaranteed you\u2019re not gonna get the flu. We have flu shots, which may work and they may not in helping people avoid every year\u2019s strain of the flu. There is not a flu vaccine. A polio vaccine, you go take it, you\u2019re not gonna get polio. Smallpox vaccine, take it, you will not get smallpox. There is no such thing as a flu vaccine. So the question, I\u2019ve had a lot of people advocate herd immunity, and it\u2019s basically what Sweden, Switzerland. I get the two confused. Sweden did and tried.<\/p>\n

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But you\u2019ve gotta be willing to accept, culturally as a society, you have to be willing to accept a certain number of deaths. We\u2019re at over 80,000 now. (interruption) You mean it could be higher than that? (interruption) Oh, most people think — Dr. Fauci said that number\u2019s 25% low. Dr. Fauci thinks over a hundred thousand deaths. He didn\u2019t use that number, but he said he thinks 80,000 is like low by a factor of 25%.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: I need to make an observation. The calls that Mr. Snerdley has… Sometimes, folks, let me tell you what happens on this show. When Snerdley thinks I\u2019m not talking about things the right way, he will send callers to me that will steer the program in a direction that Snerdley thinks I ought to, and it\u2019s obvious…<\/p>\n

It\u2019s obvious I haven\u2019t been spending enough time on the conspiracy aspects of this, because Snerdley… Every call today has dealt with some aspect of the conspiracy theory part of this story, that we\u2019re being lied to (laughing) and we\u2019re being set up. (laughing) I love it. I love it. It\u2019s… (interruption) You haven\u2019t given me the which calls that came in?<\/p>\n

(interruption)<\/p>\n

Oh, well, I know. Thank you for that. I knew that those would happen. We don\u2019t want \u2019em.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Joe in Stockton, California. Great to have you on the EIB Network. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hello, Rush. Mega dittos and hoping for a speedy recovery for you.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you, sir. Are you part of the conspiracy cabal today? Just checking. There\u2019s no wrong answer.<\/p>\n

CALLER: No. I don\u2019t believe that I believe in any conspiracies.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay.<\/p>\n

CALLER: What I called for is I have a document that I found on the CDC website. Because I was trying to find out what the actual number of deaths for the flu is this year. Because I would think that if the number of deaths for COVID is as high as they\u2019re saying, that you could add those two together and they would be much higher than years previous.<\/p>\n

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But I was not able to find these numbers for the flu deaths, and I could have been looking at in the wrong place. But what I did find was a document, 20-ID-01 from the Council of State and Territorial Epidemiologists, and in this document on the table it states that for other criteria for reporting a COVID-19 case that all you need is an autopsy finding consistent with pneumonia or acute respiratory distress —<\/p>\n

RUSH: That\u2019s exactly right. If you —<\/p>\n

CALLER: — as an identifiable cause.<\/p>\n

RUSH: If you die with COVID-19, they\u2019re gonna chalk it up to you dying because of it.<\/p>\n

CALLER: No, this does not even state that you have to have COVID-19. It just states that if in an autopsy that they find pneumonia or acute respiratory distress syndrome. It does not state that you have to have COVID-19 for them to chalk it up to it. And it states that that is sufficient to report a case.<\/p>\n

RUSH: So you think that the death toll of 80,000 — and it\u2019s 81,571 now — you think that\u2019s inflated, obviously?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, I don\u2019t know. I was trying to find something that would show me whether it was or not, because yes, I have a feeling that it is, but that doesn\u2019t mean I\u2019m accurate.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Let me tell you what just happened at the White House press briefing. Some snarky reporter wearing a mask was asking new White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany, “Why don\u2019t you have Dr. Birx out here anymore and why don\u2019t you have Fauci anymore?” And she said (paraphrasing), “Fauci been on television today more times than the president has. Fauci\u2019s not denied any time. And I just had a conversation with Birx because I heard Elizabeth Warren telling a bunch of lies in the hearing today and I wanted Birx to set me straight. Here are the numbers.”<\/p>\n

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Elizabeth Warren said during her time to testify at the committee hearing today, that today alone 25,000 new cases of the coronavirus were reported. Kayleigh McEnany went and asked Birx about it, she said, “No, no, no, not even 20,000 today.” Elizabeth Warren, Fauxcahontas then said the number of new deaths today is over 2,000. Kayleigh McEnany said that Dr. Birx said, “No, no, no, no, it\u2019s not even a thousand deaths yet today.” So Elizabeth Warren was lying about the number of cases today, the number of deaths today, according to Dr. Birx.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, I believe that. That Elizabeth Warren would lie.<\/p>\n

RUSH: And if she is, she\u2019s not alone.<\/p>\n

CALLER: No, she\u2019s not.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Somebody had to give her those numbers. So if I understand it, you are doubtful that the death toll exclusively because of coronavirus is as high as they\u2019re saying?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yes, I am doubtful.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Do you have a wild guess as to what the number actually is?<\/p>\n

CALLER: I do not.<\/p>\n

RUSH: And you are doubtful because you think they have an agenda in the more people dying, therefore, the more dangerous it is to venture outside, therefore, the more likely they\u2019ll be able to persuade people not to venture outside, to stay home and stay shut down?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, I believe that there are some agendas at play here, yes. And it\u2019s been proven to me. I can\u2019t prove it to anyone else, but it\u2019s been proven to me just by the way this has all played out.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Just your common sense is telling you this.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Exactly.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah.<\/p>\n

CALLER: My instincts, which I don\u2019t believe that they want us to use our instincts.<\/p>\n

RUSH: No. They want you to believe Fauci.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, exactly.<\/p>\n

RUSH: They don\u2019t even care if you believe Birx anymore. They want you to believe Fauci.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Instinctually when I see Fauci on the news, I don\u2019t believe that he\u2019s telling the complete truth about —<\/p>\n

RUSH: But he\u2019s got an impeccable reputation for honor and for integrity and honesty. It\u2019s right up there with Robert Mueller\u2019s.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah. So did Robert Mueller —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah.<\/p>\n

CALLER: — until we found out about that. And so did the former FBI chief, until we find out about that.<\/p>\n

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RUSH: I mean, there isn\u2019t a person who will in any way do anything but laud Dr. Fauci. Even when they\u2019re gonna disagree with him they have to preface it by saying, “I have all the respect in the world for Dr. Fauci. He is the answer to every dream in health.” But nobody, nobody will go anywhere near being critical of Dr. Fauci. Not even Trump.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I think that\u2019s because —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Not even Trump.<\/p>\n

CALLER: — that\u2019s because of fear. People fear that they don\u2019t understand something that Fauci understands. But you have to follow your instincts in that case.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, true. But look. Fauci, he wouldn\u2019t care if you and I openly ripped him, he wouldn\u2019t care about that.<\/p>\n

CALLER: No, he wouldn\u2019t.<\/p>\n

RUSH: So if we did it, you know, no big deal because there are people like you and I who might be inclined to be a little critical. But nobody in that task force will ever, ever utter any less than laudatory words about Dr. Fauci. That includes Trump.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I agree.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Because the price to pay for it, the media would just jump on their throats and ram them silly. And they all know it. And they\u2019re all saying it\u2019s not worth the hassle. Anyway, I\u2019m glad you called out there, Joe.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Mr. Snerdley, let me ask you a question. You occasionally visit Twitter, Facebook and see things that are exposes or critical of Dr. Fauci. He\u2019s been in the public realm here since the eighties with AIDS and so forth. And you\u2019ll come across things about him that are really critical, and then the next day you go look and they\u2019re gone. You\u2019ve experienced that? <\/p>\n

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So they\u2019re sweeping this stuff away. Anything they think is disruptive or credibly critical of Dr. Fauci, the tech overlords sweep it away. You\u2019ve seen this? Fascinating.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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