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RUSH: Steve in High Point, North Carolina. Hi. Glad you waited welcome to the program.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, it\u2019s such an honor to talk to you Mr. Limbaugh.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you. You bet.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Let me say I agree with you 100% about the attempt to overthrow our government, our country, but it grieves my soul to say that you made a mistake earlier in the broadcast.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, it was not an opinion error; it was verbal dyslexia. I said ‘4,500 a year.\u2019<\/p>\n

CALLER: It\u2019s 45,000 a year, is the claim that they\u2019re making.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Is this the Harvard study? <\/p>\n

CALLER. Yes, and when they say Harvard study, that doesn\u2019t mean the university necessarily conducted it itself. It was actually put out by a group called Physicians for a National Health Program.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Oh, so an Obama bunch.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Exactly. They\u2019re for single payer completely. But the methodology of the survey — the reason I called is I think your listeners should know about this. The methodology of that study was, they checked with a sample group say in 1987, then checked back over 15 years later, and if someone had died in the time since then, they assumed that if you didn\u2019t have health insurance in 1987, that if you died in 1998, it must have been because you didn\u2019t have insurance.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Oh, so they did the old assume game?<\/p>\n

CALLER: That\u2019s it exactly.<\/p>\n

RUSH: So use a static economy. If you didn\u2019t have health insurance in \u201987, then you never had it after that.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Exactly right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: So if you died after \u201987, it had to be because you didn\u2019t have insurance. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah, I think that your listeners should know that because that number is being bandied about so much, and it\u2019s been thoroughly discredited, but of course that wouldn\u2019t stop the Obama crew from using the numbers.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, you know what, I\u2019m not good with numbers in my head and half the time I screw it up on a calculator, and everybody I assign number projects to gets it wrong on this staff. It\u2019s just amazing. But 45,000 —<\/p>\n

CALLER: That\u2019s the claim, and it\u2019s been thoroughly debunked.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah, yeah. So 45,000 divided by 365. Now, I\u2019ll get a number, the commas will be in the wrong place —<\/p>\n

CALLER: They even went so far as to divide the country up and begin making claims on how many people died in each state, which they couldn\u2019t possibly do.<\/p>\n

RUSH: No.<\/p>\n

CALLER: And one other thing before I get off the phone here, I did want to let Mr. — was it Rodriguez that was complaining about the lack of a popup window for the video?<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, he was complaining that I hadn\u2019t fixed it yet.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, all he needs to do is right click and a menu will come up and he can open it himself in a new window.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, maybe, I\u2019ll have to try that myself. Since I\u2019m hosting the show I never use the media player.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Of course. I just wanted to say great job, and I\u2019m a first-time caller and I got through on my first time, unbelievable.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, that\u2019s great and you remarkably contributed here: 45,000 a year and the methodology. If you didn\u2019t have health insurance in \u201987 and you were alive, and you died any year after that, they just assumed you didn\u2019t have health insurance and that was why you died. Forty-five thousand a year is the number out there. <\/p>\n

All right, here\u2019s John in Keene, New Hampshire. Great to have you on the EIB Network. Hello.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hello, Rush. I\u2019m here to surpass caller expectations. Did I hear you say a little earlier that Joe Biden was plugging for the Palestinians?<\/p>\n

RUSH: He was.<\/p>\n

CALLER: He\u2019s just living up to his nickname.<\/p>\n

RUSH: That\u2019s right. Good catch.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Anyway, I\u2019m here to discuss basically the totalitarianistic nightmare that will come with the enforcement of the compulsory health care system because many people have drawn parallels to, well, if you get pulled over while you\u2019re driving, you have to show proof of insurance. But if you\u2019re not driving, if you\u2019re walking down the street, the authorities can\u2019t come up and demand your proof of auto insurance. But with the health care, you will have to prove anywhere you are, they\u2019ll be able to set up a checkpoint and have a dragnet, goon squad revenuers that will say, ‘Let\u2019s see if your papers are in order here.\u2019<\/p>\n

RUSH: The revenuers, eh?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah. <\/p>\n

RUSH: I didn\u2019t know they used that word in New Hampshire. I thought revenuers was strictly Tennessee and maybe Georgia.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, I lived down here for a while. (laughing) So, yeah. But that\u2019s basically what it will amount to because somebody\u2019s going to have to pay a $700 fine if they don\u2019t have the insurance —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Which is what they\u2019re going to do, that\u2019s the whole point — he\u2019s right. The IRS becomes the enforcement agency of this. The IRS will be the enforcement agency on whether or not you have health coverage. Now, of course you\u2019ll be required to have it but then if you don\u2019t there\u2019s a fine. And for most people the fine will be less than 25% of what a policy would cost you. It\u2019s on your tax return. That\u2019s why the IRS, you\u2019re going to have to put it on your tax return if you have health insurance, prove it, and if you don\u2019t, you have to pay the fine. Look, the theory behind this is that citizens will be eager to report that they don\u2019t have insurance because they\u2019ll want to choose the cheaper route of paying the fine rather than buy insurance. And employers are also gonna pay a much smaller fee in the form of a fine if they don\u2019t insure their workers than if they do, and then after that happens don\u2019t forget that there is real no penalty to you in not having insurance because if, to use John\u2019s example here, let\u2019s say that you are up in Keene, New Hampshire, you\u2019re brewing some moonshine, distilling some moonshine and some revenuers come your way and they tell you if they capture you and so forth that you gotta have health insurance. In the process of running away, you run into a tree, you don\u2019t have health insurance, you\u2019re trying to escape \u2019em for doing moonshine. <\/p>\n

The revenuers are chasing you, you run into a tree, and you nearly decapitate yourself. Now, you don\u2019t have insurance because you\u2019ve been paying the fine. Well, guess what? The health insurance company has to pay for your treatment from that day forward even though you didn\u2019t have any insurance. This is called cost control. It\u2019s called compassion. It\u2019s also called let\u2019s destroy the private insurance industry as we overthrow the United States as we\u2019ve known it. So it won\u2019t be long before people figure out the cheaper option is no insurance, especially if you tell \u2019em that everything is going to be paid for if they haven accident anyway because Obama is going to insist the insurance companies — all of this has as its endgame wiping out private insurance and forcing you on the government exchange rolls for health insurance. At some point the fines for not having insurance will be larger than what insurance premiums would be. It\u2019s real simple, folks, if you understand who these people are. And, if you don\u2019t understand who these people are, trust that I do. And then do not doubt me. <\/p>\n

Snerdley just asked me if the revenuers will be armed. Revenuers will not be armed. They\u2019re not going to be chasing you down. It\u2019s going to be on your tax return. Look, it\u2019s impossible for them to catch everybody. They can\u2019t audit everybody. That\u2019s why anti-tax people: ‘Hey, let\u2019s just all not pay one year, they can\u2019t possibly put us all in jail.\u2019 Look it, I\u2019m making this sound like it\u2019s workable. It\u2019s not workable. None of this is possible. It\u2019s their plan but none of it\u2019s possible, don\u2019t you see?<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Here\u2019s Rob in Glen Cove, Long Island. Great to have you on the EIB Network. Hi.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hey, Rush. How are you?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Very well, sir. Thank you.<\/p>\n

CALLER: You know, I wanted to share some thoughts with you and America as someone who is doing health care day in, day out, every day for the last 20 years here in New York. I\u2019m really saddened just to hear the kind of things that they\u2019re talking about where there\u2019s really very little creativity in the solutions, where we could have tremendous changes in health care with preexisting conditions across the country. But I think it\u2019s really important that you with your status could drill down as to what kind of benefits they\u2019re offering. And the point I want to make to America is that you can\u2019t offer these third-party system with these dollar-one benefits and expect any kind of crunching of the cost curve. I spent the first eight years of my career inside a TPA where before they linked with networks where you paid copayments, you paid cash. And as soon as they contracted with these networks where suddenly the employee could just say, well, you know, I\u2019ll just pay $15, we saw some of the stupidest claims that if you had to pay some money out of your pocket, you know they wouldn\u2019t have been done. There\u2019s a study at Mt. Sinai that if you watch your weight, you exercise, you don\u2019t smoke, you watch your blood pressure —<\/p>\n

RUSH: You\u2019re going to die someday.<\/p>\n

CALLER: No. You reduce your chance of a heart attack over a given ten-year period by 99%. Do you know if you\u2019re hurt in a car accident, no health plan pays for you? Do you know if you\u2019re hurt on the job or workers\u2019 comp, no health plan is paying for you. And at a time now with epic budget crunches across the country. I\u2019m telling you that when US health care and Oxford came to New York in 1993 the promise was we\u2019re going to give you physicals, we\u2019re going to keep the rates low and everyone\u2019s going to stay healthy because we\u2019re going to find the cancers ahead of time. The total opposite happened. Rates went up 600%.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Why?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Because people had no invitation to want to be consumer oriented and the doctors realized, hey, my business has now morphed into a volume practice. And one of the things I\u2019d like to talk to you about or just put out there is that I believe — you know, in New York we have Boar\u2019s Head on the meat menu at the delicatessen. I believe that if you go to a neurologist\u2019s office and he has an ownership interest in a diagnostic facility he\u2019s gotta clearly display that but also these plans should not be covering forms of radiology or technology where diagnostic studies, where these prices should be publicly showed and people should start to compete —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, look, I think I get your point. You go to a deli, you know you\u2019re buying Boar\u2019s Head. You go to the doctor you don\u2019t know what you\u2019re getting because you\u2019re not paying for it. There\u2019s no relationship — this has been a bone of contention of mine for a long time and this is what\u2019s primarily wrong with our health care system and that is the patient and the provider and the service have no financial relationship to each other at all. The patient\u2019s ability to pay is not a factor in the pricing, and so the market\u2019s been blown up to smithereens here, and none of it makes any sense. And that\u2019s why there\u2019s such a sense of entitlement to health care on the part of many, many people.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Ron in Cincinnati. Hello, sir.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Rush, it\u2019s a sincere pleasure.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Following splash zones and colonoscopies is going to be a tough act to follow.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, we gave you a couple minutes break here, yeah.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Just a quick point. President Obama talked quantitatively about the number of people that die every day, I think he mentioned 124 people and as your previous caller mentioned, that may not be a proper conclusion but let\u2019s use it just for the sake of argument. I did a little research and found out that unfortunately in this country many people die as a result of the medical care they do receive, and most of them being insured. There are some 80,000 deaths per year just due to infections in hospitals. I was wondering if maybe we could shift the discussion from quantitative to qualitative and maybe talk about the things that we need to improve beyond the number of people that may be uninsured and that is tort reform and perhaps a critical examination of the way that we deliver health care.<\/p>\n

RUSH: This is a key point. None of it is addressed in any Obamacare proposal. They\u2019re addressing things like the uninsured for compassion, claiming they\u2019re going to lower costs, but nobody will believe that\u2019s going to happen. But the very act of passing this is going to retard the improvements you talk about. It\u2019s going to penalize and punish research and development in drugs. It\u2019s going to stop medical progress and advancement in hospitals, treatment dead in its tracks. <\/p>\n

CALLER: Exactly. Well, richest country in the world, Rush, and we have hundreds of thousands of people. I hope that\u2019s not an exaggeration but my source indicates hundreds of thousands of people dying every year unnecessarily. So I hope he does address the qualitative issues as well as the 124 people and the poor souls that he indicated die each day from the lack of health care. It\u2019s a very tough thing to prove one way or the other —<\/p>\n

RUSH: Because of the lack of insurance. It\u2019s bogus anyway because everybody gets treated at the emergency room. There\u2019s nobody doing because you don\u2019t have insurance, not in this country. The whole thing is bogus. But the problem here — I\u2019m not sweeping your point off the table, but Obama\u2019s proposal is not about qualitative health care, it\u2019s not about health care. And it really isn\u2019t about insurance, other than destroying private sector insurance. Obama\u2019s health care proposal is not about health care. It\u2019s about nationalizing two and a half trillion dollars of the US private sector and putting the government in charge of it and then being able to regulate almost every aspect of life possible. It is an attempt to overthrow a portion of the US private sector, pure and simple.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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