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RUSH: Patrick in Gainesville, Florida. Great to have you. Hi.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hi, Rush. Love your show.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Thank you.<\/p>\n


\nCALLER: I want to point out that, although I\u2019m not a Trump supporter, I can\u2019t see how he doesn\u2019t get the nomination with all the winner-take-all states that are still remaining. If you look at California, New Jersey, Delaware, and PA, I can\u2019t see how he loses those. Then he only needs 254 votes, or delegates, then you have a couple other winner-take-all states that I think he\u2019s gonna get. Maryland, Wisconsin, Virgin Islands, American Samoa. Now he only needs 156 out of the 377 proportional states. That\u2019s 41%. He\u2019s getting that but the pundits are saying he needs 60. I don\u2019t understand their math, but would you agree based on those states that he\u2019s gonna win those?<\/p>\n

RUSH: I\u2019ll tell you, there\u2019s something that interests me more. I\u2019ll get to that in just a second here. But I did see — I didn\u2019t print it because it\u2019s charts and graphs, which are worthless to me in trying to explain something to you on the radio. But the New York Times has a story, I found it last night in which, you know, using their math, with their charts and their graphs and the things that you were talking about, remaining states, the proportional delegates, winner-take-all, they have a formula there where they say that people are wrong when they say Trump cannot get to 1,237, they say he can.<\/p>\n

In fact, they say he can hit the number exactly, according to their formula. But I\u2019ll tell you, what fascinates me now, this whole thing\u2019s taken a new twist now, and I can\u2019t tell you how much I resent this Kasich situation and what he\u2019s doing because Kasich is really gumming up the works. Well, now gotta take a break here. But, look, pal, I\u2019ll hold you through the break so you can react to it, Patrick.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Where\u2019d Patrick go? Did he hang up? Okay, doesn\u2019t matter. He brought it up. There\u2019s two stories here. The New York Times story on how Trump can get 1,237<\/a>, they still say he can, and it\u2019s because of Rubio\u2019s exit. Rubio\u2019s exit leaves Trump with an open path to 1,237. Everybody else is saying he can\u2019t get there. Everybody is saying Trump cannot get there now, especially with Kasich staying in. But, no, no, no, no. And from the article in the New York Times, as I say it\u2019s a lot of charts and graphs, which are worthless. I mean, how do I describe a chart to you? And I\u2019m not gonna hold the damn things up on the Dittocam. But let me read to you what it says.<\/p>\n


\n“If Mr. Trump maintains his current level of support in the remaining races, he would almost certainly secure the nomination. If he continues his current performance and wins a series of key states — like Arizona, California and New York — he would get the needed delegates. If Mr. Trump loses California, he could miss the delegate cutoff. But even that may not prevent Mr. Trump from winning the key states — like California — that ensure him enough delegates.”<\/p>\n

That\u2019s a little out of context here, but the bottom line is the New York Times thinks that he can get there. The AP, on the other hand: “Trump Still Not Doing Well Enough to Guarantee Nomination.” So who do you believe here? “Donald Trump is the only candidate with a path to clinching the Republican nomination for president before the party\u2019s national convention in July, according to an analysis of the delegate math.”<\/p>\n

Why isn\u2019t that the headline? What is this “Trump Still Not Doing Well Enough to Guarantee Nomination<\/a>.” How do you square that with the opening paragraph? It\u2019s just a media question. It just flummoxes me again. The usual media flummery out there. “Donald Trump is the only candidate with a path to clinching the Republican nomination before the convention.” That\u2019s the lead. The headline: “Trump Still Not Doing Well Enough to Guarantee Nomination.”<\/p>\n

“But despite four more wins on Tuesday, the billionaire businessman still must do better. Trump\u2019s rivals can only hope to stop him, forcing a contested convention with an uncertain outcome,” which is why a contested convention is all we\u2019re going to be hearing about.<\/p>\n

Now, I said to Patrick before the break, there\u2019s something else about this now, there\u2019s a new twist to this that is fascinating to me, and Kasich has gummed it up. I really was looking forward to this two-man continuation here between Trump and Cruz. We\u2019ve had Trump anywhere from state to state, I don\u2019t have the exact numbers, and I\u2019m not gonna talk about this 50% business \u2019cause that\u2019s, I think, a distraction, \u2019cause Trump\u2019s been winning. I don\u2019t care about 50% because there have been a lot of people in the race.<\/p>\n

However, he\u2019s been winning 35, 40%. But throughout this, whether it\u2019s been 17 candidates or four, there\u2019s always been more Republicans voting in primaries for people other than Trump. I think if you want to talk about math, that is some math, before you put personalities into it. On the one hand you\u2019ve got Trump and his solid support, 35%, let\u2019s say 40. But when you add Cruz and Kasich and Rubio and Carson, no matter how many, down to those final four, including all the other 17, there was a greater number of Republican primary votes, particularly in closed states where Democrats couldn\u2019t cross over, who were voting for candidates who were not Trump.<\/p>\n

And I know the Cruz campaign has been so eager, they have been looking so forward to this moment. They were hoping it would come earlier. They were hoping candidates would drop out earlier, like Carson, but it didn\u2019t happen when they wished it would, but it has happened now except for Kasich. So we still don\u2019t have the two-man race. We\u2019re still gonna have the anti-Trump vote, diluted.<\/p>\n

And, by the way, I\u2019m not concluding that all of the anti-Trump vote would go to Cruz. That\u2019s what I wanted to see. I wanted to see how much of it would. I was really hoping to see that. And we\u2019re not gonna see it with Kasich staying in the race, and Kasich\u2019s not going anywhere, because this whole thing, all of this has become about him now, in his mind, all of this is about him.<\/p>\n

You go back to his acceptance speech, it was all about how remarkable a path to all this he has taken, what a remarkable career he\u2019s had, what a remarkable and unique life he still led, and it\u2019s taught him to tell all of his supporters, there\u2019s only one of you, you\u2019re special. There\u2019s nobody like you. And there will never, ever be anybody else like you. And your mission here is to take what that uniqueness is and go make something out of it, which sounds good but in his case he\u2019s saying it so that you\u2019ll think of him that way.<\/p>\n

Some people are just — you know them — self-focused, self-important. It\u2019s deep here with Governor Kasich. I mean, the confetti, did you see that? The confetti guns, and he\u2019s talking about (imitating Kasich), “I will go on and win these other states. I will be elected president.” You might say, “Well, Rush that\u2019s what all candidates say, you gotta talk positive like that.” Well, yeah, but, I mean, you can\u2019t be delusional. You can say it, but if you really mean it or think it then there might be problems. But for all of you anti-Trumpers, there was gonna be one way of finding out if the anti-Trump sentiment was a majority. I guess you still might say that it is.<\/p>\n


\nLet\u2019s say the combo of Cruz and Kasich still, in some states, is larger than Trump, it\u2019s not gonna be the case in every state. And I know that some of this doesn\u2019t matter in delegate apportionment because there are winner-take-all states. For example, in Missouri they still haven\u2019t called Missouri. I\u2019ll tell you why. The last I saw Missouri, during yesterday\u2019s show I saw that Cruz was 2,000 votes behind, but Trump was gonna get all the delegates, 15 delegates and Cruz was gonna get zero.<\/p>\n

Now, there are nine bonus delegates in Missouri to be apportioned based on who wins. That close, but in a winner-take-all state, that\u2019s what happens. So the popular vote, you know, who wins states really doesn\u2019t matter. It\u2019s the delegate pile that does. And that\u2019s what all these analyses of states yet to come are based on. What is it gonna take to win enough where to get a majority of the delegates to equal 1,237. And they\u2019re concluding in the AP that Trump can\u2019t do it in the time left. And the New York Times is saying oh, yes, he can. And everybody\u2019s concluding Cruz can\u2019t.<\/p>\n

For the Cruz people I\u2019m sure it\u2019s a mixed bag. On the one hand with Kasich staying in, the only hope now is that Trump does not get to 1,237. But that brings up the conversation of, well, if he doesn\u2019t, how close does he get? If he\u2019s within 50 or a hundred, do you go to the convention contested or do you just go ahead and say, okay, he won it, the people have spoken. Well, then we next turn to Republican rules committee people who are out there saying, “Wait a minute. The voters don\u2019t choose the nominee; we do. We\u2019re gonna have a rules meeting. We can change the rules in April. We can change rules the day before the convention.”<\/p>\n

I know if you watch enough TV you\u2019re seeing enough people say that that\u2019s all a pipe dream, that by the time we get there, all these people talking about a contested convention will have backed down and they\u2019ll realize they can\u2019t take it away from Trump for a whole host of reasons. I do not believe that. I do not believe this party is gonna concede this without some kind of protracted, intense fight over it. Just my humble opinion.<\/p>\n

You\u2019ve got like the owners of the Diamondbacks<\/a> out there and the owners of the Cubs. I mean, these are big donors and so forth, and they\u2019re saying no way no how Trump. How do you unify that? Then you got these guys out there promising to have a meeting today to come up with maybe going third party, then choosing a candidate. It\u2019s pretty late for that, get signatures, get on the ballot, find somebody. But there\u2019s a whole pot load of people here that are making it very clear they have — I mean, they\u2019re making it so clear, how do they walk back their refusal to unify? The Diamondbacks people, the Cubs people, how do they walk it back?<\/p>\n

The Diamondbacks people: We are willing to lose a hundred thousand fans by publicly stating we abhor Trump. That\u2019s our morality. We must be true to ourselves. And if it costs us a hundred thousand fans and the related economics, fine. And the Ricketts family in Chicago is saying the same thing, essentially. Okay. So we move to July, we get to Cleveland, it\u2019s convention time. How do people like them and others walk back their positions and unify? I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n

I know I said on Fox News Sunday<\/a> that I thought that was gonna happen. Chris Wallace asked me a question. I try to anticipate every question, I always do that, and he always ends up asking me one that I didn\u2019t think of, and he said, “How\u2019s this gonna end?” And since I don\u2019t endorse and haven\u2019t gone that route, I let things play out to find out who\u2019s gonna win. I do make predictions and so forth. So I said to him, I think what\u2019s gonna happen, what I hope happens is that by the time we get there, everybody\u2019s gonna realize that the real threat, the real political opponent here is the Democrat Party. The Democrat Party is why all of this is happening.<\/p>\n

No, I\u2019m not absolving the Republican establishment. Don\u2019t misunderstand. But the Democrat Party has been running this country. The Democrat Party and its social programs and its cultural rot, cultural invasion, everything else, the Democrat Party is why this country is in dire straits. The country is where it is because the Democrats want it to be here. They want to transform this country. They do not like this country the way it was founded and Obama epitomizes it. So you get Supreme Court nominees, that\u2019s just part of it. Yeah, that\u2019s big. But we don\u2019t need a third Obama administration and then a fourth.<\/p>\n

So I always thought that at that point somebody would realize, enough people would realize that the real objective here is to beat Democrats, which is my objective, folks. I answer the question again. However we beat the Democrats is what I\u2019m for, as opposed to investing in various candidates or personalities. I think the task is much larger and beyond a single candidate. A presidential candidate is a person and a set of policies and issues and so forth that everybody can coalesce around to advance that objective, which is defeating Democrats.<\/p>\n

I think the Democrat Party is the most destructive force in the country today. I don\u2019t think the Republicans are. The Republicans, as we all know, have enabled this by not attempting to stop any of it. And, yeah, there may be individual Republicans, moderate, liberal Republicans who support it, but in general the indictment against the Republicans is they\u2019ve let it happen while promising during campaigns that they would not.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: Here\u2019s Joe in Memphis. Great to have you on the program. Hi.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Hey, Rush. I\u2019m a big fan. You kind of touched on what I was — I\u2019m a big Ted Cruz supporter. I\u2019m really upset about Donald Trump backing out of the debate. I\u2019ve been waiting months for a head-to-head with him. And, you know, I\u2019ve heard over the last few weeks you\u2019ve analyzed what makes up a Donald Trump supporter, and just for what it\u2019s worth I wanted to give you a heads-up, I\u2019m a big volunteer for the Ted Cruz campaign, and we are made up of groups of people like myself who have been waiting 30 years for a candidate like this. And I\u2019ve never donated before until Ted Cruz came along. I\u2019ve never volunteered for a campaign, and I just think boy, over the next few weeks we\u2019ve got a golden opportunity to elect somebody as close to Reagan as I\u2019ve ever seen.<\/p>\n

RUSH: What do you think Cruz needs to do, or you and other volunteers, aids, supporters, what do you need to do?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, I wouldn\u2019t presume to know how to direct him what to do, other than, you know, when I listen to the news I really just hear all about Donald Trump, and it seems like it\u2019s focused on the horse race aspect, and I was really looking forward to a more or less head-to-head debate where the contrast could be laid out as far as policies. I\u2019m really not interested in all the drama and all the name-calling and everything else. I just I feel like this is a window of time over the next few weeks where —<\/p>\n

RUSH: There isn\u2019t any policy contrast. Trump does not do policy. Trump does attitude. Trump is transactional. Trump doesn\u2019t look at government as a series of policies to implement. Government is a series of transactions that you engage in —<\/p>\n

CALLER: Right.<\/p>\n

RUSH: — that end up in his view with the country winning. A debate between — I know why Trump\u2019s not — Trump knows. In many debates, you know, Cruz has had a brilliant answer to a very detailed policy question, and Trump said, “Everything he said is right on.”<\/p>\n

CALLER: Yeah.<\/p>\n

RUSH: That\u2019s why Trump\u2019s not gonna do that debate. Two different worlds, two different worlds. You resent Trump dropping out and a lot of people do, but it\u2019s like incumbent presidents. “Why should I debate this clown? I got the job, he wants it, why should I help him get it? Screw that. He wants to go win it, have him go win it. I\u2019m not gonna help him.” That\u2019s why incumbents only have one debate, and they don\u2019t even want to do that.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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