{"id":4054,"date":"2016-03-01T18:36:45","date_gmt":"2016-03-01T18:36:45","guid":{"rendered":""},"modified":"2017-06-20T10:10:30","modified_gmt":"2017-06-20T14:10:30","slug":"a_pro_cruz_conservative_against_trump","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.rushlimbaugh.com\/daily\/2016\/03\/01\/a_pro_cruz_conservative_against_trump\/","title":{"rendered":"A Pro-Cruz Conservative Against Trump"},"content":{"rendered":"

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RUSH: Patrick in Cleveland. Hello, sir. You\u2019re up first today, and it\u2019s really great to have you with us. Hi.<\/p>\n

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\nCALLER: Thanks, Rush. It\u2019s an honor. I\u2019m a 24-year member of the Institute of Conservative Studies, except I\u2019m feeling that I\u2019m gonna have to resign my position, Rush. I\u2019m just… I\u2019ve been listening to you for 24 years, listening to you for the last couple months, and I just… I\u2019m tired of hearing that any criticism of Trump always has to be framed as it\u2019s the establishment against Trump. There are plenty of us out here who are true conservatives who are not buying the Trump bandwagon, and we\u2019re tired of being lumped into the establishment. What have you said for the last 10 or 15 years about people in this country not knowing what a conservative is because we haven\u2019t had a true conservative running since maybe Reagan?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, exactly. They haven\u2019t even had a chance to vote for a genuine conservative.<\/p>\n


\nCALLER: Exactly. So here we go coming out of seven years of Obama socialism, and we have a golden opportunity to showcase what a true conservative would be in contrast to that, and what are we doing? We\u2019re on the verge of nominating a con artist who flip-flops on everything and never answers the question. All he ever does is deflect and attack. The whole New York Times thing is a perfect example of that. And we\u2019re gonna blow it. We\u2019re definitely gonna blow it. And if he gets in, or Hillary gets in, what\u2019s the freaking difference? It\u2019s the same thing.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, now, that happens to be an excellent question. But before I answer that, I need to tell you that I am not lumping you or me — mainstream conservatives who you say oppose Trump — with the establishment. I\u2019m reacting to the news of the day. I\u2019m just… You know, look at this as the nightly news at noon.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I understand that.<\/p>\n

RUSH: But the news of the day is the establishment is going bonkers, even more so than ever. I\u2019m just trying to explain it, and I\u2019ve got… We went back and actually checked my website for all the attempts that I have made in the last number of years starting back 2010 to explain to the establishment<\/a> why something like this was going to happen.<\/p>\n

CALLER: And I understand that. And, believe me, I am no fan of the establishment whatsoever. I understand perfectly why this is happening.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Understand —<\/p>\n

CALLER: You kind of touched on it with the Brokaw thing where Brokaw said, you know, well, it\u2019s because we\u2019re not working with Obama.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Exactly. Hang on. Hold it right there. I hope you can hold on because I\u2019ve reached the moment where I can\u2019t let the break float. I\u2019ve gotta take it now. I hope you can hold on. We\u2019ll pick it up here in the next hour.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: We go back to Patrick in Cleveland. If you\u2019re just joining us, the first hour of the program I recapped with some additions, things I\u2019ve not mentioned before theoretically to explain the Trump phenomenon. But more than that, to explain how the establishment get an get it. They don\u2019t understand what\u2019s hit them. They\u2019re way off base. They\u2019re not even close to understanding it, and, as such, they\u2019re never going to be able to figure it out and how this is not a phase, it\u2019s not a temporary tantrum. It represents something that\u2019s very real and has actually been building for decades.<\/p>\n

<\/a>And Patrick here is a multiple-year, 20-plus-year listener to the program who called and said he doesn\u2019t like being lumped in with the establishment for reasons for disliking Trump. He dislikes Trump for different reasons. He doesn\u2019t like being lumped in with the establishment. He\u2019s basically a full-fledged conservative and thinks the solution to these problems we have is conservatism and not Trump, that Trump is an absolute disaster.<\/p>\n

And I\u2019m just gonna assume you think — don\u2019t misunderstand the tone of my voice, feel free to say I\u2019m wrong about this, but I\u2019m guessing that because of the way I explained this in the first hour you think I\u2019ve thrown in with the Trumpists?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Not necessarily thrown in, but it seems to me over the last couple of months that you give him a pass on stuff that you would never give a pass to anybody else.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Such as? You don\u2019t even know what happened to me yesterday. The Trumpists want to burn me at the stake after yesterday\u2019s program. The Trumpists, the alt right, whatever you want to call them, I mean, they were ready to bury me yesterday and last night over what happened on this program yesterday.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I understand.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, then — no, no. Here\u2019s the problem. This what happens when you don\u2019t endorse anybody. It would be worse if I did, but by not endorsing anybody, everybody holds out hope, and it\u2019s really tense out there right now. And I understand that clear as a bell. Let me ask you, let me go at this this way, Patrick.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Okay.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Let\u2019s deal with the reality of something here. Do you agree with my analysis of the sentiment out there with the people angry at Washington and so forth, do you agree with that?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Oh, sure, definitely. And I consider myself one of them.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay, all right. Then how come it is, explain to me — and it\u2019s a question coming at you pretty quickly. You may really want some more time to think about it. But where did conservatives not capture this sentiment? Why was it left open for somebody that has never been in politics before to come in here and to totally captivate this segment of the population, which, by and large ought to be with us a hundred percent?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Are you referring to normal conservatives who are buying the Trump line?<\/p>\n


\nRUSH: I\u2019m talking about everybody ticked off at Washington. We are the answer. We are the answer to what\u2019s wrong with —<\/p>\n

CALLER: You\u2019re right that the reason we\u2019re ticked off at Washington is because we\u2019ve had two out of three landslide elections, and we sent majorities to both parts of the Congress, and they did absolutely nothing. They failed in —<\/p>\n

RUSH: No, no —<\/p>\n

CALLER: — their promise to halt Obama. And I can understand that\u2019s where the anger comes from.<\/p>\n

RUSH: No.<\/p>\n

CALLER: The question becomes, what is the solution?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Now, wait. I obviously didn\u2019t explain my question, frame it properly. You have what\u2019s gone on in Washington the last seven years, what\u2019s gone on in the last 27 years, okay? The opposition, what\u2019s gone on there is full-fledged, unabashed liberalism that has been unchecked and unstopped by the Republican Party which has made it clear it\u2019s not conservative and doesn\u2019t want to be.<\/p>\n

CALLER: True.<\/p>\n

RUSH: So the question is, with this many millions of people angry, upset, disaffected, feeling left out, whatever, at both parties in Washington, why wasn\u2019t conservatism turned to by these people instead of Trump?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Because we haven\u2019t had a conservative candidate.<\/p>\n

RUSH: But there\u2019s been plenty of conservatism out there.<\/p>\n

CALLER: It hasn\u2019t manifested itself in the people we\u2019re sending.<\/p>\n


\nRUSH: We do. We\u2019ve got Ted Cruz.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Exactly! Thank you! Thank you!<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay, we\u2019ve got Ted Cruz, but before that we\u2019ve had other candidates that have run. Some of them sought the Republican presidential primary, didn\u2019t get very far. But I know your point, that we haven\u2019t really had a legitimate conservative candidate. Why is that?<\/p>\n

CALLER: You know what? I don\u2019t know. I wish I knew the answer to that because — and it\u2019s not for lack of trying.<\/p>\n

RUSH: See, I think the answer to that is part of this problem. The only stated — now, follow me on this before you react. The only stated opposition to Obama and Obamaism and the Democrat Party has come from us.<\/p>\n

CALLER: True.<\/p>\n

RUSH: From conservatism, from conservatives, here on this program, other talk radio, blogs, wherever. The conservative movement has a lot of moving parts. It has candidates. It has think tanks. It has media. Many of these people have been asking these Americans to support them with donations, contributions, the come-on has been “help us do our work, and we will convert Washington to conservatism. We are the way to get to policy makers to infuse what they do with conservative beliefs.” People have been sending them money. People have been supporting them. People have been voting. They\u2019re going to their seminars or whatever. And I think a point was reached where they said, “Where is all this conservatism that we\u2019ve been supporting, where is it? It hasn\u2019t shown up in Republican Party.”<\/p>\n


\nCALLER: I understand that. And we feel betrayed because we send them to Washington to do a job, and they didn\u2019t do it. The point I\u2019m trying to make is that anger focused on the job not being done, how is Donald Trump going to do that? How is Donald Trump not gonna be any different when he\u2019s already said he\u2019s gonna go to Washington and he\u2019s gonna make deals?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay, I read —<\/p>\n

CALLER: I can negotiate with Harry Reid. I can negotiate with Nancy Pelosi. If we wanted somebody to negotiate and get along, we would have elected Democrats. I think I heard somebody say that one time. (laughing)<\/p>\n

RUSH: Wait, wait, wait, wait. No, no. No, no. This is important now. This is why — you know, I say sometimes I get mad, too. I put in a lot of time here working — I mean, I did nothing all night but work on this very stuff that we\u2019re talking about. I was six hours, seven hours last night, and sometimes it gets very frustrating when I say it over and over and still am not heard.<\/p>\n

Now, let me explain this once again. You can talk about what you just said, that Trump supporters ought to see, “My God, he\u2019s gonna negotiate with Pelosi and Reid.” That\u2019s not how they hear it, Patrick. They hear Trump say he\u2019s gonna beat them. He\u2019s gonna cream \u2019em. He\u2019s gonna cream Pelosi. He\u2019s gonna cream Reid. Whether he does it, that\u2019s what they hear. They hear he\u2019s gonna cream the Chinese. He\u2019s gonna cream the Japanese. He\u2019s gonna clean up the border. He may have to do deals with these people, but he\u2019s not gonna cave to them. That\u2019s how they hear it because that\u2019s what they want to believe.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I understand that.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay.<\/p>\n

CALLER: But where\u2019s the reality involved? Go back 20 or 30 years, where\u2019s the beef? (laughing) I can make speeches like that all day —<\/p>\n

RUSH: I can answer — (crosstalk)<\/p>\n

CALLER: — not going to know what the hell I\u2019m doing when I get there. I\u2019m not going to not work in my own best interests once when I get there.<\/p>\n

RUSH: I can answer every question you\u2019re asking. You say where\u2019s the beef? Again, what are we talking about, Patrick? We\u2019re talking about why people are supporting Trump and not Cruz, when we boil this down, are we not? Why are people supporting Trump and not another conservative, aren\u2019t we? So those are the people we\u2019re talking about.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I would think so, yes.<\/p>\n


\nRUSH: Okay. So when you ask these questions, where\u2019s the beef, they look at everybody in Washington as part of the guilty, whether they\u2019re Republicans or Democrats or not. They see Ted Cruz versus Hillary Clinton as no different than Marco Rubio versus Hillary Clinton or Mitt Romney versus Hillary Clinton, because Cruz —<\/p>\n

CALLER: If that\u2019s the case, then I guess we could agree that low-information voters don\u2019t just exist on the left, because anybody who\u2019s going to lump Cruz in with those other people are not paying attention.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, they think they are. But the reason that can happen — you and I both know that Cruz is a bigger outsider than even Trump.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Exactly.<\/p>\n

RUSH: For all that Trump has talked about, Cruz has done.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Exactly.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay. But yet Cruz happened to have the misfortune of getting elected. He is a Senator. He is in Washington. He is seen by these people as part of the, quote, unquote, ruling class or establishment that has routinely sold them out, talked big, sounded great, but when it got down to brass tacks, they caved. It\u2019s totally unfair. And, by the way, this is not my theory. I read that, talked about all the stuff I did last night. I can\u2019t remember, it was either Anglo Codevilla or Charles Murray who made that observation, \u2019cause Codevilla, for example, is really worried, Angelo Codevilla who wrote the original piece on the ruling class, country class that we highlighted here in the American Spectator, his main concern is that we\u2019re just trading an Obama for a Trump.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I agree.<\/p>\n

RUSH: One authoritarian for another.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Right. I see no difference between hope and change and make America great again, because neither of them are saying anything.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, yeah, but they do say a lot. They allow the supporter to define it him- or herself.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, sure. But my point is we made fun of the hope and changer people for the last eight years and all we\u2019re doing is replacing it with just another empty slogan.<\/p>\n


\nRUSH: No, I would argue that hope and change is nebulous. Make America great, that\u2019s pretty simple. That\u2019s not very ambiguous, making America great. America isn\u2019t great anymore. It\u2019s not great. It\u2019s not what it used to be. It\u2019s undergoing a major transformation.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Well, sure, yeah, I understand that.<\/p>\n

RUSH: “Make America great” has a substantive, real meaning to it.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I hope.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Codevilla\u2019s point is that he worries that you don\u2019t fix the mess that we\u2019re in now by electing somebody who may be better at doing exactly what Obama does than Obama is, an authoritarian versus authoritarian. That\u2019s his fear. He\u2019s in the school of thought that what we really need here is just solid, straight-down-the-middle good, old-fashioned conservatism is the only stopgap and cure for this.<\/p>\n

CALLER: I agree.<\/p>\n

RUSH: There are opinions on this all over the place, and I amalgamate them and share them with everybody. Sometimes it\u2019s assumed they\u2019re my own if I don\u2019t quote what I\u2019m reading every other sentence from somebody. But I think the real question here is we\u2019ve got this number of disaffected people that seems to be pretty big, and speaking to you as a conservative, I\u2019m frustrated, too.<\/p>\n

How did we miss them? Why in the world do they not trust us? How many times have you heard me lament that we have done a lousy job in ideological education? I am more frustrated than you are, but the problem, I can\u2019t complain about it, you know, it\u2019s uncool. Like you should have seen Snerdley at the end of the previous hour when I said, “You know, I\u2019m mad at you people.”<\/p>\n

“You can\u2019t say that! You\u2019re supposed to take it, but you can\u2019t give it out.” I understand that. But do you realize if the people of this country just understood what liberalism is?<\/p>\n

Let\u2019s go through the things that I just mentioned. Look at how the ruling class… Let\u2019s change that to “liberals,” \u2019cause that\u2019s what the hell it is. The liberals have destroyed a college education. They\u2019ve turned it into a step up to an anchor around your neck. The liberals have given us the financial crisis. The liberals gave us the bailouts. The liberals gave us all of these things that have destroyed the economy while they promised it would rejuvenate the economy. Liberalism is why the culture is rotting in the midst of a transformation.<\/p>\n


\nBut the Republican Party won\u2019t say that. The Republican Party won\u2019t even blame it on the Democrats. The Republican Party won\u2019t even acknowledge any of that\u2019s happening. But we know that it is, and so do people who are ready to abandon the entire political class for an outsider because they think the entire political class is entirely corrupted. Well, it is, because it is liberalism that\u2019s corrupted it. And I wish there had been ongoing ideological education so that people knew that when they saw liberal or listened to a liberal, it automatically meant vote against \u2019em.<\/p>\n

But we\u2019re not there. I have been after that, I have been wishing that, and that\u2019s what this program sought. This program is a solution to everything. Every day, this program amounts to solutions to every problem that\u2019s out there, and the first thing I do is explain, define the problem, illustrate why we have it and so forth. I\u2019m as frustrated as anybody. This is a golden opportunity. I can tell you, there\u2019s a lot of people in the conservative movement who are not really conservative, not like you and I. But they claim to be, and they are sitting out there and they\u2019re wondering.<\/p>\n

They\u2019re telling themselves, “We owned this. We had the best field of candidates. All they had was Hillary — and Bernie gets in later. We were set! This was our year.” And then Trump gets in, and they think all is lost cause. They\u2019re blaming Trump for screwing up the best opportunity they\u2019ve ever had. And they need to ask themselves the question: If you guys have all the answers, then why did nobody hear you? If you guys have all the answers, why did nobody listen? Why didn\u2019t anybody believe you?<\/p>\n

And that gets translated as, “Where is all this conservatism you guys have been talking about? Where is all this conservatism you guys have been selling? You\u2019ve asked for my money, you want me to read your position papers, you want me to read your policy analysis, but where is it in my life? Where is it stopping anything?” And they don\u2019t see it. So here comes Trump just like here came Perot. And the parallels to that are interesting, too, even more so with Trump, because Perot really didn\u2019t want to win. But Trump does. Anyway, Patrick, I appreciate your holding on all this time for the top of the hour, extend the conversation.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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