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RUSH: The story here at TheHill.com: “Trump: I\u2019ll work with Democrats.” I saw that headline, I said, “Now, wait just a minute. What\u2019s this?” So I read the story. “Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is stressing his bona fides as a dealmaker who\u2019d be able to enter the White House and work with congressional Democrats to hammer out agreements. ‘I think I\u2019m going to be able to get along with Pelosi — I\u2019ve always had a good relationship with Nancy Pelosi,\u2019 Trump said Tuesday on MSNBC. … ‘Reid\u2019s going to be gone. I\u2019ve always had a decent relationship with Reid,\u2019 Trump said, referring to Harry Reid (D-Nev.), the Senate minority leader. ‘I always had a great relationship with Harry Reid.\u2019<\/p>\n

“Trump said he thought he\u2019d get along with ‘just about everybody,\u2019 including Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), likely to be the next Senate Democratic leader, who Trump said he was ‘close to … in many in ways,'” for quite a while. Now, what is this? This is not what Trump\u2019s legion of supporters want to hear, but it\u2019s interesting. Is this not exactly what establishment Republicans claim we have to be able to do? How many times have you heard it from Governor Christie, you heard it from Senator McCain. We probably heard it in one form or another from Jeb Bush. I\u2019m sure we heard it from Governor Kasich.<\/p>\n


\nThey\u2019ve all touted their ability to cross the aisle. They\u2019ve all touted their ability to cross the aisle, to work with Democrats to show that we can make Washington work. A number of establishment Republicans have stated that they know how to make deals with the Democrats, how to be bipartisan, how to make Washington work. That\u2019s what establishment Republican candidates say. The establishment of the Republican Party thinks that\u2019s what you have to say in order to expand your base beyond just your conservative base voters.<\/p>\n

The Republican Party thinks they can\u2019t win the presidency with Republican votes alone. They believe what\u2019s been said about them in the form of criticism, that they\u2019re intolerant and that they\u2019re racist and bigoted and all that, and so the establishment Republicans — you know this better than I do — for years have been making the case — Romney did it. “I\u2019m the guy. I\u2019m the guy who can work with the Democrats.”<\/p>\n

And every time one of them said it, we cringed, or worse. Every time one of them said it, we said, “We don\u2019t want work with them. We want to beat them. We want to defeat them. We don\u2019t want to work with them.” We don\u2019t want to compromise our core in order to get along with \u2019em, because that\u2019s what happens. They don\u2019t compromise anything. We give up everything, we work with \u2019em. Latest example, the budget deal. But, I mean, that\u2019s just one of many.<\/p>\n

And now here comes Trump bragging on MSNBC, “I will work with Democrats,” touting his friendships with Democrat leaders in the House and the Senate. Maybe he thinks he\u2019s already got the primaries wrapped up. Maybe he thinks he\u2019s got the nom. I don\u2019t know, but this is the kind of thing the establishment, the mainstream Republican leadership in Washington, this is the kind of thing that they advocate.<\/p>\n

This is the kind of thing they think they need. And the candidate they\u2019ve been paranoid about, the candidate they\u2019ve done everything they could to stop, the candidate they\u2019ve been scared to death is gonna blow up and ruin their party is now out there echoing what they believe. What do you make of this?<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: We start in St. Louis. This is… Is it Lisa? Is that right? Lissa? Lissa, great to have you on the program. Hi.<\/p>\n


\nCALLER: Thank you so much. You know, I really paused when you talked about what Trump was saying about Pelosi and Reid, that, you know, he\u2019s got a good relationship and he can work with them. They\u2019re the reason the country has been ruined, I think. They\u2019re the reason the economy has been wrecked. I think it\u2019s because of Obamacare. They have done all of that, and it\u2019s almost like Trump is saying, “You know, I\u2019m gonna work with them and make deals with them, and maybe the country will be less wrecked, the country will be less ruined.” You know, if his campaign theme is to “Make America Great Again,” that\u2019s not the way to get it done.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah. I hear you. I think what\u2019s going on here, the entire interview features — and we have a ban on MSNBC so I don\u2019t have any audio of this, and I\u2019m not gonna lift the ban for this. I can just easily tell you what they said. So, Cookie, don\u2019t go racing around there trying to get the video. This all happened in a conversation about Ted Cruz in which Trump kept repeating how “nasty” Cruz is and how nobody in Washington likes him, and how therefore nobody\u2019s gonna cooperate with him if he\u2019s president. He is never gonna be able to get anything done because Cruz can\u2019t make deals, \u2019cause nobody likes Cruz.<\/p>\n

“He\u2019s just a nasty guy.”<\/p>\n

He went on and on what a “nasty” guy Cruz is.<\/p>\n

He said (paraphrased), “He\u2019s a guy nobody likes and nobody trusts. He is a nasty guy. He says things that are very nasty. So I have to be nastier than him and it\u2019s just one of those things. I\u2019ve been in politics all my life,” Trump said. “I\u2019ve been dealing with politicians all my life.” So I think it\u2019s his attack on Cruz… And he may not. I don\u2019t know. He may not realize this is not something his base supporters are gonna get excited about. In fact, they may have red flags over it. I think he thinks he\u2019s just running on ripping Cruz and touting his own abilities over what he believes are Cruz\u2019s inabilities and deficiencies. Either way — I mean, no matter how you cut this — it\u2019s gonna give people like you and others who are for him some pause. It would have to.<\/p>\n

CALLER: Right. Well, you know, if Trump wins and he decides he\u2019s gonna work with Pelosi and Reid, that means he\u2019s gonna be working with, according to him, the losers. Why should he have to work with the losers? You know, it sounds to me like he\u2019s doing great because he\u2019s really something different.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah.<\/p>\n

CALLER: And I just wonder if it plays out in the real world.<\/p>\n


\nRUSH: You got red flags because this does not sound like the guy who\u2019s been on the outside, who is carving a niche for himself that\u2019s different and divorced from the way things are usually going. Then you hear about this, he sounds like any other Republican, right?<\/p>\n

CALLER: Right. He sounds like an inside guy. He sounds like the guy, you know, in the closed-door rooms.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well —<\/p>\n

CALLER: In the closed-door rooms meeting independently, you know?<\/p>\n

RUSH: Well, he thinks… It\u2019s clear that he thinks that he is promoting himself, that he\u2019s touting a super qualification. And, remember, the context is (paraphrased), “Everybody hates Cruz, nobody will let Cruz do anything, nobody will work with Cruz because they distrust him. He\u2019s a nasty guy.” He\u2019s going on and on and on about this. “Cruz is not gonna be able to get anything done; but I — I, Donald Trump — I know these guys. I\u2019ve made deals with these guys. I\u2019ve lived with these guys. I can get things done with these guys,” and whether he stopped to think how his base supporters are gonna hear that, I don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n

CALLER: And, you know, it would be fine to make deals with people whose ideas are good. But if you\u2019re trying to make a deal with the people that gave us Obamacare that\u2019s been a drag on the economy, that\u2019s not good.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Yeah, look, I haven\u2019t changed. My sole interest in this is beating these people. My sole interest is that. It\u2019s at the top of my list of “musts,” if we are going to have a chance at changing the direction of this country that the left has had us moving in for years prior to Obama. Obama just turned on the afterburners. The left, as I mentioned yesterday, owns it is bureaucracy no matter they win or lose the presidency. They\u2019re gonna have career leftists that nobody knows. We don\u2019t know their names. We don\u2019t know how long they\u2019ve been there.<\/p>\n


\nBut they\u2019re gonna be able to write regulations. They\u2019re gonna be able to stop or support things on a whim. We have basically lost control of the regulatory agencies in in this country. They operate solely unto themselves. Nobody\u2019s done anything to stop it and the vast majority of them are leftists, and they\u2019ve been there for years. Ditto the judiciary. Democrats, if they lose the White House, it\u2019s not a fun thing and they\u2019re not crazy about it, but they can always fall back on the fact that they have the mechanisms in place to put all kinds of roadblocks in front of the Republicans. And they\u2019re there.<\/p>\n

So this is a wrong process that, if it\u2019s to be successful in changing the direction of the country and it\u2019s not gonna be involving making deals with these people… Not unless they are the ones that totally capitulate. And I don\u2019t see that happening. We are the ones that usually totally capitulate in a misguided effort to show the American people that they are wrong about what they think of Republicans. So the Republicans accept the branding. They accept that the criticism the Democrats have made is believed, and they operate on it from purely defensive standpoint.<\/p>\n


\nThey think the only way that they can grow is to agree with the Democrats; therefore, people couldn\u2019t possibly think they\u2019re racists or sexists or bigots or whatever the other criticisms are, because they\u2019re agreeable. They want to work with them. They want to show they can govern and they can be bipartisan. And that\u2019s supposed to change public opinion toward Republicans. And all it\u2019s gonna do is secure additional continuing Democrat Party victory. So on top of my list throughout all of this has been, “These people have got to be stopped.<\/p>\n

“Politically, they have got to be defeated. Working with them, cooperating with them is not going to make a positive difference or secure positive change in any away.” This has been my problem with the Republican establishment. We hear McCain say, “I\u2019m the guy who\u2019s gonna cross the aisle.” Okay, check that one off the list. I\u2019m not interested. That\u2019s not what we need. It\u2019s not helpful, not useful. Governor Christie at one point says, “Look, if I\u2019m elected president, I\u2019ll listen to Democrats. If they got good ideas, I\u2019ll listen to \u2019em.”<\/p>\n

Check him off the list. That\u2019s not what\u2019s important right now. The evidence is in. Like you say, Lissa, these people have destroyed the country, and they are continuing to destroy the country. The evidence… We don\u2019t have to speak theoretically anymore. All we have to do is point to real-life circumstances and explain to people, “You want to know why you can\u2019t find a job? You want to know why your health care is a mess? You want to know why whatever\u2019s wrong is wrong? It\u2019s the Democrat Party. It\u2019s not a theory. The evidence is in.” So working with \u2019em? Nope. Not helpful.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: You know, yesterday there were people who were worried that Trump was gonna be an authoritarian, a dictator. Kind of like Obama. He was gonna be just doing what he wants to do whether Congress cares or not. Now, today, people are worried that he\u2019s gonna work with the other party, work with the Democrats.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

Now, here\u2019s Trump. Trump on MSNBC today said that (imitating Trump), “I\u2019m gonna be able to get along with Pelosi. I\u2019m gonna be able to get along with Harry Reid, although he\u2019s not gonna be there. I\u2019m great friends with Schumer, I\u2019ll be able to get along with Schumer.” And he said this in the context of Cruz being a nasty guy, nobody likes Cruz, nobody\u2019s gonna be able to get anything done with Cruz. If you guys elect Cruz, nothing\u2019s gonna happen \u2019cause everybody hates Cruz, they despise Cruz. Really nasty guy, really nasty, says a lot of nasty things, Trump says. And nobody\u2019s gonna work with him.<\/p>\n


\nIt was in that context that Trump offers that he knows Democrats and can work with them. So the context of this is, Trump making this assertion about himself, comparing his abilities to the lack of abilities he claims Cruz would have, a couple of audio sound bites on this.<\/p>\n

Last night on CNN\u2019s Situation Room, Wolf Blitzer said to Trump, “You just posted a Facebook video where you say the establishment\u2019s against you. Why do you say that?”<\/p>\n

TRUMP: I think the establishment actually is against me but really coming online (sic), because they see me as opposed to Cruz, who is a nasty guy who can\u2019t get along with anybody. We can\u2019t have a guy who stands in the middle of the Senate floor and now every other senator thinks he\u2019s a whack job, right? Y\u2019know, you have to make deals. You have to get along. That\u2019s the purpose of what our founders created, and Ted cannot get along with anybody. He\u2019s a nasty person.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay, so, I think what\u2019s happening here… See, I don\u2019t believe Trump is ideological in his decision making or even in the formation of his principles. Not everybody is. One of my big frustrations, folks (as you well know), is that so many people are not. I… I… (sigh) I have waxed eloquent I don\u2019t know how long, “If we could simply educate people to ideologically identify liberals, to understand them on the basis of ideology, we can escape so much misery because they would never be elected.”<\/p>\n

The way the Democrats cover their ideological extremism is with compassion and tolerance and fairness and understanding. So people react to what they say. They react to their intentions, and ignore the destruction that they bring. And it\u2019s always been my belief that if we could just get people to understand the ideology of liberalism, the ideology of conservatism… It\u2019s not complicated. “What\u2019s a liberal? What\u2019s a conservative?” Not, “What\u2019s a Democrat? What\u2019s a Republican?”<\/p>\n

“What is a liberal? What is a socialist? What is a communist? ”<\/p>\n

Not just by label, but what are they?<\/p>\n

I blame the Republican Party for not pushing this distinction, and the reason they don\u2019t is because they don\u2019t want to tout themselves as conservatives. If we had some people proud to be conservatives, it\u2019d be easy as pie to contrast ourselves with the left. I don\u2019t think Trump is ideological, either. So here he is, he\u2019s up against it with Cruz, and he\u2019s trying to sell himself over Cruz. (summarized) “But, hey, Cruz, he\u2019s a nasty guy! He\u2019s a really nasty guy. You\u2019ve seen that. He\u2019s a whack job, and everybody in the Senate knows he\u2019s a whack job. Nobody can get along with him!<\/p>\n


\n“You can\u2019t make deals if people hate you. I know that! That\u2019s why of people love me. I can make deals with people all the time. I can make deals with Democrats.” He may not… Well, I don\u2019t want to put words in his mouth, and I\u2019m not gonna try to make excuses for him. I\u2019m just telling you, it\u2019s a red flag to a lot of people. They don\u2019t want to work with Democrats. They don\u2019t want anybody working with them. They want people who are gonna smoke \u2019em. They want people who are gonna cream \u2019em. They want people who are gonna drive them into the ground and bury them, and then hammer the political nails one after another and end this.<\/p>\n

Not work with them.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: So a big red flag has been thrown up as a result of the Trumpster on MSNBC today assuring everybody he will work with the Democrats and touting his ability to do so. That\u2019s a big step-in-it. I know he\u2019s doing this in a context of trying to contrast himself with Ted Cruz, who, (imitating Trump), “Nasty, everybody hates Cruz. Never gonna be able to get things done,” and so forth. But I guarantee you, the last thing anybody supporting Trumps wants is for him to work with Democrats.<\/p>\n

They want him to skunk \u2019em like he\u2019s talking about winning everything else he\u2019s doing in his deal-making and negotiating, and it includes Democrats. It includes beating Democrats. It includes winning over the Democrats, not just the Iranians, and not just Putin, and not just the ChiComs. It includes winning over the Democrats, beating the Democrats. We\u2019ll see how this plays out. I know he\u2019s gonna say he\u2019s trying to, “Hey, you know this is just in the context of Cruz out there who can\u2019t work with anybody.”<\/p>\n

I do need to repeat here, I think it\u2019s fascinating that Trump has sort of redefined what he thinks the position of the presidency is, which is making deals. No matter what it is, everything is a deal. Every part of your agenda you\u2019re trying to advance happens as the result of a deal. And there\u2019s nobody better at doing deals than he is, and he means it from the standpoint of winning them, and he better mean it with Democrats.<\/p>\n

BREAK TRANSCRIPT<\/p>\n

RUSH: As you know, Donald Trump is saying he may not show up at the Fox debate tomorrow night. Here he is last night on CNN talking about it. Wolf Blitzer said, “Donald, you and Megyn Kelly have had issues, and she\u2019s one of the moderators of Thursday\u2019s debate. Are you gonna be there? Are you gonna show up at the Fox debate?”<\/p>\n

TRUMP: I don\u2019t like her. I might be the best thing that ever happened to her. Whoever even heard of her before the last debate? But I thought she was a very unfair in the last debate. I\u2019m not a fan of Megyn Kelly. If I think I\u2019m gonna be treated unfairly, I\u2019ll do something else. But I don\u2019t think she can treat me fairly, actually. I think she\u2019s very biased, and I don\u2019t think she can treat me fairly, but that doesn\u2019t mean I don\u2019t do the debate. I don\u2019t think she can treat me fairly, and I\u2019m not a big fan of hers. Maybe I know too much about her.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Okay, now, did you know how many times he said I\u2019m not a big fan, I don\u2019t like her, she doesn\u2019t like me? That was the whole bite. He kept repeating that. My contention is that\u2019s when he\u2019s thinking of what he next wants to say. In this case, didn\u2019t come up with anything, so he kept repeating what his point was. Now, let me get a show of hands in there. I got three people here. Could have been on the Texas grand jury, for all I know. How many of you think Trump is going show up at the debate on Fox?<\/p>\n

All three think he\u2019s gonna show up. Exactly. Exactly right. This is called hyping the audience. This is called creating an even larger audience than Fox got when they had their 25 million or 24 million, whatever it was. There\u2019s no question he\u2019s gonna show up. Well, there might be a question. But he wasn\u2019t finished knocking Megyn Kelly. Good Morning America today, George Stephanopoulos, well-known Democrat Party hack, says, “It seems like Fox News might be taunting you a little bit, suggesting you\u2019re showing fear, a little bit afraid to show up \u2019cause of Megyn Kelly. You might be afraid of her, you\u2019re afraid of the questions that she might ask you.”<\/p>\n

TRUMP: No, I have no fear. I don\u2019t think she\u2019s a good professional. She\u2019s very biased against me. I don\u2019t think she\u2019s a very talented person. I don\u2019t think she\u2019s a good reporter. I love doing the debates. I just do think they should get competent reporters. They shouldn\u2019t use somebody like her. She\u2019s not very good at what she does, I will tell you that.<\/p>\n

STEPHANOPOULOS: We should assume you\u2019ll be there Thursday night?<\/p>\n

TRUMP: Well, you can probably make that assumption, but I\u2019m thinking about it.<\/p>\n

RUSH: Holding out the possibility he won\u2019t show. Come on. And have it written and said that he chickened out because of Megyn Kelly. See, he issued a demand, he told Fox: You get her out of there. She doesn\u2019t like me. She hates me. She\u2019s not very talented. I saw enough blood last time, I don\u2019t want to see any more. Get her out of there, I\u2019m not showing up, I didn\u2019t want to do the debate.<\/p>\n


\nWell, he didn\u2019t say the blood. I just threw that in there. And Fox said: You don\u2019t get to pick the journalists. You don\u2019t you don\u2019t get to pick the journalists. Screw this. And Trump said, “Okay, I\u2019m not gonna show up. I might not show up. I might and I might not.” All the while continuing to insult her. This just hypes it. This just hypes it.<\/p>\n

In fact, everybody knows what\u2019s gonna happen. She can\u2019t back down. She\u2019s got to ask what everybody would consider to be a tough question. He has to be prepared to deal with it however. (imitating Trump) “See, I told you she hates me. I told you. I knew I shouldn\u2019t have come here, I knew it, but I wanted to be true to my commitments. Look at that, she doesn\u2019t like me, you can tell by the very-first question she asked me. She prefers somebody else up here.” I can just see it happening. Both of them have to stay in character. Not an insult, don\u2019t misunderstand.<\/p>\n

Here\u2019s F. Chuck Todd weighing in on this on the Today show today. He was talking to Matt Lauer. Matt Lauer said, “Donald Trump\u2019s threatening to pull out of the Fox News debate, \u2019cause Megyn Kelly is gonna be there. Does he do anything with that strategy, other than make her a bigger superstar?”<\/p>\n

TODD: I think it does. Look, I think he\u2019s working the ref a little bit, and already if he gets a question he doesn\u2019t like, he can just chalk it up to that. So I think he\u2019s just setting the expectation.<\/p>\n

RUSH: So he\u2019s “working the ref” a little bit, here. He\u2019s trying to get fair questions, easy questions and so forth, and if he doesn\u2019t, he can just say, “See? See? She doesn\u2019t like me. See? I told you she\u2019d be biased. See? I told you they had it in for me. But I showed up,” or what have you.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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