RUSH: On this program yesterday after the Republican debate, you know Trump was talking about Eisenhower and how he deported a million and a half, and I added to that news.
RUSH ARCHIVE: Trump was entirely correct to point out the history, what Eisenhower did. And I don’t think Trump went far enough, actually. In reality, Harry Truman, another Democrat president, deported illegal aliens, over 3.4 million. Did you know that? You did not know about Harry Truman? Well, then I’m happy to be able to inform you.
RUSH: Last night, Trump was on The O’Reilly Factor, and the host, Ted Baxter — sorry — just had to do it — Bill O’Reilly said to the Trumpster, “Believe me when I tell you, Mr. Trump, that was brutal, what they did to people, kick ’em back out of the country back then, I was there, and that was brutal what they did, the stuff they did was really brutal. It could never happen today.”
TRUMP: We would do it in a very humane way. Let me tell you, Truman also sent 3.5 million people out. So you have to check on that, but Truman, before Ike, sent 3.5 million people out.
RUSH: Show prep for the Republican presidential field, right here, the EIB Network. It was a grand total of 6.4 million. But O’Reilly said, “You can’t do that, it was brutal what happened back then, it was brutal. ” Trump says, “Don’t worry about it. We’re gonna do it in a humane, compassionate way.” You won’t have to do it. If it were to ever happen, deportation were to ever actually happen, what nobody talks about is that there would be a commensurate number of illegal aliens who would leave on their own, not waiting to be found and deported.
So yesterday on the NBC News website, NBCNews.com, the correspondent Katy Tur spoke with Trump in Manchester, New Hampshire, about his immigration policy, and here’s a little bit of how it went.
TUR: Eisenhower’s 1952 deportation of illegal immigrants, that was at times anything but humane. They would drop immigrants off in the middle of the dessert, 88 died of heat stroke. Others were shipped off on cargo ships under hellish conditions. There was inquiries into those ships. How would your plan be different?
TRUMP: Very humanely done.
TRUMP: Very important. It’s a whole management thing. It’s called good management, good management practices.
RUSH: I love this. I don’t know, folks, I know he’s not saying anything, I just love it, ’cause here you have this loaded-for-bear journalist. She’s just loaded for bear. She’s gonna take Trump out or she’s gonna humiliate Trump so she’s saying — I don’t know if you can hear all that because of the noise. But what she was saying, Katy Tur at NBC, “Eisenhower’s deportation of a million immigrants, that was anything but humane. They would drop immigrants off in the middle of the desert, they died of heatstroke.”
Trump said, “Yeah.”
She said, “Others were shipped off on cargo ships under hellish conditions. There were inquiries into those ships. How would your plan be different?”
Trump said, “Very, very different. Very important. It’s a management thing. It’s called good management. Good management practices.” He-he-he. Look, I know some of you are gonna be mad at me for not seriously parsing it. I’m sorry. Good management practices. (interruption) No, I’m not even gonna attempt to define what those would be. Stop saying “give them water.” Snerdley is shouting in my ear here. No, no. “Just good management practices. Don’t worry about it, Katy. Have you ever seen me screw anything up before? When I tell you we can deport these people, we can deport ’em, we can do it humanely. In fact, by the time I’m finished they’re gonna be glad I did it. They’re gonna asking to work for me. That’s how humane it’s gonna be.” (laughing)
Snerdley is asking why is it considered impossible, why can’t we do it? Well, because we don’t know who they are. The first answer is they’re in the shadows. Don’t forget that. They’re in the shadows. I know, it’s bogus. But they’re in the shadows, we don’t know who they are, and they wouldn’t come forward if we said that this was what we’re gonna do. The next answer is the Kasich riff, they got families. They got children that are citizens, they were born here, their children are citizens, you just gonna take the father and the mother and you gonna kick ’em out? You can’t break up families like that. You can’t philosophize about this. You can’t do that. You need executive experience to know how to deport people. You can’t do it. They’re saying it’d be inhumane, physically impossible to do.
And, by the way, then they come up with 500,000 a month. Jeb likes the number it’s 500,000 a month you’d have to deport. Why? Who says you’d have to do it in one year? I mean, I admit we can’t create more than a couple hundred thousand jobs a month, but how hard would this be, compared to creating jobs? The Democrats don’t know how to do that. So, anyway, Newt Gingrich weighed in on this. This is On the Record with Greta Van Susteren last night, on the Fox News Channel. Greta said, “The base do not like illegal immigration. Donald Trump says, ‘I’m gonna throw 12 million out, and I’m gonna build a wall,’ and that’s pretty attractive to them. But, Newt, is it possible?”
GINGRICH: I think that’s, uh, not practical at all at a very human level. Imagine the number of churches that will become sanctuaries. Imagine the number of families in which half of them are American citizens born in the US, and now you’re gonna go in and you’re gonna become the party that destroys families? Look him in the eye and say, “Let’s go to down and visit the school in your neighborhood or the church in your neighborhood or the store in your neighborhood, Donald, where you gonna walk in and I’m gonna point out the people you gonna uproot. Now, you really gonna do that in — and the truth is, you’re not.”
RUSH: So basically what we’re being told here, I mean, if you strip all of the emotion out of this — which I know a lot of people don’t like to do. But if you strip all of the emotion out of this, if the top 12 million taxpayers in America decided to break the law and stop paying taxes, would we suggest that we couldn’t go find them and put them in jail or penalize them because we would be separating them from their families? This is the one instance… My point is, this is the one instance in law where everybody in the establishment comes up with excuses and reasons why it can’t be enforced.
But if you have 12 million taxpayers, and they all get together and decide, “You know what? Screw the IRS! They’re screwing us; we’re just not gonna pay our taxes.” Could we find them all? If we found them all, could we prosecute them all, and could we convict them all and put them in jail, and would we break up those families? And the answer is damn right we would! (snaps fingers) In a blink of an eye we would, ’cause it’s the IRS, and nobody gets away not paying their taxes. I don’t care what happens to your family if you get caught.
I don’t care how long it takes. They’re gonna find you, and they’re gonna prosecute you, and they’re gonna get whatever they can from you (unless you happen to call our great sponsor, Tax Defense Partners, but that’s another stage). I’m just making the point here that in no other instance… Well, maybe not. There may be things I can’t think of at the moment, but it really is phenomenal. Here in illegal immigration it’s the one set of laws that we have that the entire establishment finds every way in the world not to enforce.
And then to further say, “You can’t enforce it.” Lynchburg, Virginia, Ben Carson yesterday held a press conference. During the Q&A, a reporter said, “Can you explain your position on immigration? Are you in favor of encouraging people here illegally to have a way to get citizenship or are you in favor of deporting those people who are here?”
CARSON: I propose that we give them a six-month period in which to register. If they don’t register within that six-month period, they’re criminals, and are treated as such. If they register in that six-month period, and they have a pristine record, and they wish to be guest workers in this country, they would have to pay a back tax penalty and they’d have to continue to pay taxes going forward. But they would no longer have to live in the shadows.
RUSH: Okay. So that sounds like the establishment plan, in a way. This doesn’t quite go to amnesty like some of the others does.
RUSH: Let me ask you a question. If the libs in this country, if the Democrats, if the left wanted to confiscate all the guns in the country, do you think you would hear any, “Nah, we can’t find all guns! Are you crazy? It’s crazy. We can’t find the guns. Are you silly? There’s millions and millions, hundreds of millions. We could never round up all the guns!” No. They’d go for it and they’d tried to find every gun in the country and they’d upset every law in this country to get every gun. If they got the go-ahead, they could find 300, 400 million guns inside of a month — or they would certainly try, right?
I don’t think there’s any question. How many guns are there in this country? We’re told there’d be no problem confiscating them. The left is not deterred at all by the numbers there. Now, when it comes to deportation, if anybody’s ever really serious about it — and I don’t know that anybody really is. But if they were and if it is said, “There’s no way!” If it’s like Newt said, “You’d have to close the stores, the churches, separate families,” all that, well, there are places we can go for guidance. We could ask the Mexicans how they do it.
We could go ask the Cubans. You know, we have a new relationship with Cuba. The Castros are experts at rooting out people they don’t want there, and they have built plenty of prisons for ’em. The Castros, the Cuban communists had no trouble finding the people there that they don’t want there or that they don’t want roaming around there. We could ask the ChiComs. You know, they don’t like the Tibetans, and they’ve made no secret about it. I mean, there’s any number of places in the world that we could go to seek expert help, ’cause there are plenty of other countries that do it.
No, I’m just saying. You know, this is what I mean. I’m the mayor of Realville, and I do happen to react literally to things. So when people say things, I interpret what they say literally. I’m not gonna assume they don’t mean it. I’m not gonna assume they’re exaggerating. When somebody says something, I’m gonna believe they mean it. And if they say, “There’s no way we could do it! We couldn’t do it. We couldn’t round up people. We couldn’t find them! We couldn’t separate the families.” Well, there are people that know how to do it, and have been doing it for a long time. All we would have to do is ask them how they do it.
Then it’s up to us.
RUSH: Jeb Bush yesterday in Iowa, a campaign event, a Q&A with a reporter. “What did you think of Trump yesterday saying he would form a deportation task force to get people out of the country?”
JEB: Just assume for a moment that there would be due process. I haven’t heard Mr. Trump’s views on that but I assume in our country that that actually — people would consider that to be worthy of consideration. A half a million people basically I think would double the number of people processed through our judicial system. It’s not possible.
RUSH: There you go. Half a million, not possible. We couldn’t do it. There’s no way it would work. That seems to be the way everybody’s reacting to Trump’s humane proposal, is that it’s impossible, won’t work. We can’t bust up families. We can’t find the people. We’d have sanctuary churches. We’d have sanctuary 7-Elevens, that’s what Newt says, these people would be hiding out in these places we’d have to bust into churches and 7-Eleven stores and who knows whatever the heck else, we just couldn’t do it.
Now, last night on Cavuto, his Fox News show, not the Fox Business Network, he interviewed Kasich from Ohio, and he said, “These other guys on the stage, they don’t think that you’re a conservative anymore. They don’t think that you’re from the Reagan wing anymore.”
KASICH: If you take a look at Ronald Reagan today I’m not sure that he would pass their test. Look, when you’re an executive, it’s not just about philosophy, it’s about making things work. I’ve been a conservative all of my life. But, you know, I am concerned about poor people and about giving them a chance, not a handout, but a hand up. I do believe in cutting taxes, but I don’t think we can just cut ’em to zero and have everything work great. I’ve gotta be somebody that stays true to myself. But I don’t know how anybody would say that record is not really a conservative record, ’cause it is a conservative record, and sometimes it’s practical, just like Ronald Reagan.
RUSH: Well, I love this. So Reagan was a good lib. Reagan was a good moderate when it came to helping poor people. No. No. He’s on this riff here where philosophy is all well and good when you’re up here on a stage talking conservatism, but when you’re an executive like I am, and when you’re governing and you got poor people and all kinds of people in trouble and the banks are shutting down, then that philosophy is worthless. You gotta throw it out the window. You gotta help people. I
I’m sorry. It’s philosophy that guides you. Philosophy forms the basis, the foundation of your principles. How do you just throw it out? Anyway, I know what he’s trying to do. New Hampshire primarily coming up and a lot of moderates there. Now, yesterday — ah, I don’t have enough time to get both of these in. Well, maybe we do. Here, a point I made yesterday on the program quickly.
RUSH ARCHIVE: They’re running as Democrats. Jeb and Kasich may as well have been espousing the Democrat Party position last night during the Republican debate, and they’re wondering why things aren’t working out.
RUSH: Okay, about what doesn’t matter because what’s next, ABC News then links Bush and Kasich and Hillary on Trump’s deportation plan.
TOM LLAMAS: Mass deportation is a plan some of Trump’s fellow Republicans call unrealistic.
KASICH: Think about the families, think about the children.
BUSH: Even having this conversation sends a powerful signal. They’re doing high fives in the Clinton campaign right now when they hear this.
TOM LLAMAS: The Clinton campaign doing more than high fives. Taking to social media, tweeting the idea of tracking down and importing 11 million people is absurd, inhumane, and un-American. No, Trump.
RUSH: Point is, what did ABC do? They went out and they got Kasich and they got Bush and they lumped her in with Hillary, who’s a Democrat, in order to oppose Trump, which is my point.