New Evidence Vindicates Trump on Muslim 9/11 Celebrations in Jersey City
Dec 2, 2015
RUSH: Turning to the Republican presidential primary, two stories on the same data. “Trump Leads, Carson Fades in National Poll.” That’s from TheHill.com. CNN: “Trump Leads as Carson Fades — Donald Trump continues to hold a commanding national lead over the field of Republican contenders, as Ben Carson falls back into the pack, according to a new poll.
“A Quinnipiac University survey released Wednesday finds Trump taking 27 percent support, a 10-point lead over the next closest contender. ThatÂ’s a slight increase for Trump, who stood at 24 percent in the same poll from last month. ‘It doesnÂ’t seem to matter what he says or who he offends, whether the facts are contested or the “political correctness” is challenged, Donald Trump seems to be wearing Kevlar,’ said Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll.”
He has now doubled down on his “tens of thousands of Muslims cheering on 9/11” comment. And they have found even more evidence. They have found even more reporting, ladies and gentlemen, that the Drive-Bys ignored about Trump and his comments. I don’t have it in the current Stack right in front of me, but there is another instance of media reporting talk about a bunch of people on rooftops cheering the twin towers going down. It is the third separate media report that’s now been found.
Rubio, in the Quinnipiac poll, is in second place, 17%. Ben Carson has dropped seven points in the last poll. Rubio and Cruz have each gained three points. Jeb Bush is in a distant fifth place, with 5%. Jeb Bush recently said — and I can’t believe this. This is one of the things I had yesterday in the Stack that I didn’t get to. And it wasn’t on purpose. You know, I do things as I feel them. And for some reason I chose other things over some other things, and the Jeb Bush thing was one thing that I glossed over, and it was this. It was a story from, I think over the Thanksgiving weekend, might have been Jeb appearing in a Sunday show.
He actually said that it is important to elect somebody who can work with the Democrats to get things done, to form consensus so that legislation can be passed and signed into law. And others echoed Jeb. They’re saying, “Yeah, we’ve just had seven years of a petulant, immature president who refused to work with the opposition, and we see the damage. And we don’t need another four years of a megalomaniac who refuses to work with the opposition.” And Jeb is holding himself out as the one guy in the Republican field that could do it. You talk about tone deaf?
Furthermore, are we really supposed to sit here and believe that the reason Obama has been able to get away with all that he’s gotten away with is because the Republicans did not work with him? Are you kidding me? Seriously? The rap on Obama is that he did not work with the other side, he refused to cooperate, he didn’t get consensus, and therefore we don’t need another four or eight years like this? Who in the world who thinks like that still has a job? For crying out loud.
RUSH: Here it is. This is what I was talking about. It’s audio sound bite number 14. By the way, Rudy Giuliani is backing Trump up as well. “Ah, Trump’s exaggerating, but it happened. It happened.” Trump has doubled down on it, which is Trump’s trademark. Trump says something and the Drive-Bys go, “My God, I can’t believe you said that! You didn’t mean that. You can’t get away with saying that! You can’t prove that!” Trump says, “Oh, yeah? Well, try this,” and doubles down on it and sends ’em into pure apoplexy.
This is a WCBS Channel 2 Eyeball News New York report from September 16, 2001. Snerdley, you remember this guy, Pablo Guzman? (interruption) You do remember Pablo? (interruption) Is that good or bad you remember Pablo Guzman? (interruption) Well, he was a standard fixture of local news. I have other memories of the guy, but they’re irrelevant to this. Anyway, Pablo Guzman who was a street reporter, Channel 2 Eyewitness News in New York. On September 16th, he’s reporting about police and FBI investigators raiding a Jersey City, New Jersey, apartment building where people were celebrating the 9/11 attacks. Imagine that.
GUZMAN: There’s another apartment building, one that investigators told me, quote, “was swarming with suspects,” suspects who I’m told were cheering on the roof when they saw the planes slam into the Trade Center. Uh, police were called to the building by the neighbors and found eight men celebrating, six of them tenants in the building. The FBI and other terrorist task force agencies then arrived, and the older investigators on the task force recalled that they had been to this building before, eight years ago, when the first World Trade Center attack led them to Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, whose Jersey City mosque lies between the two buildings getting attention today.
RUSH: Oh, yeah! I’d forgotten that. Omar Abdel Rahman’s mosque was out there, too, right in the sightlines. And so he… Could you hear that? It was really tunnel audio. (interruption) Were you able to hear it? Okay, so I don’t need to reread this? People can understand what he said. (interruption) All right, he said, “There’s another apartment building, one that investigators told me, quote, ‘was swarming with suspects,’ suspects who I’m told were cheering on the roof when they saw the planes slam into the Trade Center. Uh, police were called to the building by the neighbors and found eight men celebrating, six of them tenants in the building.
“The FBI and other terrorist task force agencies then arrived, and the older investigators on the task force recalled that they had been to this building before, eight years ago, when the first World Trade Center attack,” that was 1993, “led them to Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, whose Jersey City mosque lies between the two buildings getting attention today.” We-e-e-ell. So the Drive-Bys news stories that just keep popping up that all the Drive-By fact-checkers just didn’t manage to find. And here’s Trump doubling down last night, Waterville Valley, New Hampshire.
TRUMP: One of the things comes out in the poll: That I have the most loyal people.
TRUMP: People say, “He can do anything! He can do anything.”
TRUMP: So I don’t know if that’s right, but they say that I have the most loyal people. You know, others, if you sneeze they drop you. Me, I can sneeze. I can say things that I think are right. Do you notice what’s happening in New Jersey? A lot of people are saying, “Yeah, that did take place in New Jersey,” right? I wasn’t gonna apologize!
TRUMP: I wasn’t gonna apologize. A lot of things happen today where they were dancing and they were happy. There were a lot of happy people over in New Jersey. And I saw it, and a lot of people saw it, and I’m getting hundreds of phone calls — and a lot of other people are, too — and things are all of a sudden materializing.
RUSH: Now, this is a fascinating thing that’s happening here. Follow me on this. Trump first alleges tens of thousands of people were celebrating in New Jersey. The Drive-Bys say (angrily), “Well, that’s just not possible! He making it up. It’s outrageous. We hate Trump! This is Trump being typical Trump that we hate!” And they immediately began to try to disprove what Trump said, so they go into action with all their fact-checkers. They get AP fact-checkers, Washington Post fact-checkers, UPI fact-checkers, Reuters fact-checkers.
They all go back through their archives, and they don’t find anything — and since they didn’t report it, it didn’t happen. This is key. To them it didn’t happen because they didn’t report it, and then somebody said, “Wait a minute, the Washington Post did report it, and their fact checker — a guy named Glenn Kessler — glossed over it, missed it, or just ignored it.” And the Washington Post was reproduced and people said, “Oh, yeah. They were talking about a bunch of people celebrating the Twin Towers going down in New Jersey.”
The Drive-Bys said, “Ah, it’s so long ago, the reporter doesn’t remember it,” and they made fun of Trump for making fun of the reporter. They said Trump was mocking the reporter who happens to be disabled. Trump says, “No, no, no, no. I saw it,” and what’s happening now is that a lot of other people who saw the same thing are talking about it with each other on Twitter and Facebook, and Trump spends a lot of time on Twitter and Facebook. So you have two worlds here. You have Drive-By Media, which didn’t report it and says it didn’t happen.
Then you have Facebook and Twitter — which is real people — recounting what they’ve said and seen and what they’ve heard, and that forms its own loop that keeps going with people adding to it and Trump sees that and says, “I’ve seen it! I saw it, I’ve seen it, a lot of people see it.” Over here the media, it didn’t happen. “We didn’t report it; it didn’t happen. Trump’s a lunatic. Trump’s crazy.” Trump says, “The hell I am! It did happen. I got people telling me they saw it. It’s all over Facebook. It’s all over Twitter.”
You heard him say, “I have hundreds of people calling me and e-mailing me. They saw it.” The media’s over here saying, “It didn’t happen because we didn’t report it!” It’s an object lesson in the media. I was reminded of a story yesterday, in fact, that John O’Sullivan tells in a book that he wrote on Margaret Thatcher. John O’Sullivan used to be at National Review Online, National Review as the editor, and he was ranking member of Lady Thatcher’s staff. This story is about the beginnings of the protest movement of the labor movement in Poland.
Lech Walesa and that bunch were starting to protest the communist government there, and O’Sullivan in the book on Thatcher tells the story that Pope John Paul II, when this began to happen, asked, “Is there media there? If there isn’t, get media there. If the media doesn’t report this, nobody’s gonna believe it’s happening.” He was prescient, and he understood. And so they got media there. I don’t recall the process by which that happened, but it makes the point that the media in and of itself can rely on themselves.
If they don’t report something, it didn’t happen, or it wasn’t worth reporting because it was so insignificant if they didn’t report it. And that’s what they rely on. And that forms the crux of the contretemps right now between the media and Trump. They can’t find any evidence of it because they didn’t report it, just that one Washington Post story. But then there was a New York Post story, and now Pablo Guzman at Eyewitness News 2 New York. And there’s gonna be more. They’re gonna find more mainstream media reporting of this that the Drive-By fact-checkers have missed ’cause they don’t want to find it.
And so Trump is doubling down on it. And now the Quinnipiac pollster says, “I… I… I… (stammering) This is doesn’t make any sense. He can’t offend anybody! He can’t! No matter what he says, no matter what he does, it doesn’t hurt him. We’re never seen this!” I said, “Hello, this is the precise value that Trump is demonstrating.” (interruption) No, my point is here that you don’t have to be afraid of the media if you’re a Republican, and you don’t have to be afraid of violating political correctness if you’re a Republican.
There’s a hunger in the general population for people who are willing to ignore all that, and just stand up and say what it is. People are fed up with fear of the media! People are fed up with fear of political correctness. People are fed up with the Republican Party being afraid of being called racist or whatever it is. Just get up and say it! What you know to be true, just get up and say it and screw ’em! That’s what Trump’s doing, and he’s being rewarded for it. That’s what I find so incredulous. I mean, this Jeb stuff, it’s not… It’s uncomfortable. I just don’t…
“I’m the guy that can cross the aisle I’m the guy can work with the Democrats form a consensus get things done I mean.” (sigh) I don’t know… How can you miss so vividly what’s happening in this campaign? I don’t understand it. Well, actually I do. Actually I do. You know where this comes from? It’s rooted in the belief that Trump’s gonna bomb, that under him Trump’s gonna fade out, that Trump’s gonna implode; that something’s gonna happen, and that the electorate at some point’s gonna wake up and want a traditional inside experienced politician to be president. That’s what they’re banking on in the Bush campaign.
Without knowing it, I mean, I know it. Nobody’s told me that. I’m just surmising it.
RUSH: Let me remind you of something from the report from Pablo Guzman, Channel 2 eyeballs news. He’s talking about swarms of suspects on the rooftop. Don’t confuse the fact that the number eight were arrested. That’s just the number detained. There were swarms on the rooftop in New Jersey as the towers were going down. But now what you have to do, you have to put it all together. You go back to 9/11, and then you go to the next day and the next day, and the media’s reporting, and now we’ve got reporting in the Washington Post talking about Muslims celebrating in New Jersey, Channel 2 Eyeball News, swarms of people, Trump probably saw all this and read all of this. The New York Post with a story on the celebrating and who knows what else is gonna be found.
You put all these reports together as a consumer of news in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, it wouldn’t be hard to figure there were a whole lot of people celebrating this. It was reported. And yet the Drive-By Media is calling Trump a liar. You got Giuliani now backing it up. If Rudolph Giuliani is not an authoritative source on whether Muslims celebrated in New Jersey, then who the heck is. We know it’s not the Drive-Bys. They’re out there denying it. So Trump’s supposed to believe them versus what he saw at the time? And it wasn’t just Trump that saw it. I mean, if you’re in New York in the immediate aftermath and you see these reports on the news you’re gonna get the idea a lot of people were celebrating this. It sounds like vindication to me, folks.