RUSH: Michael in Crawford, Texas. Welcome to the program, sir. Hello.
CALLER: Hi, Rush, how are you?
RUSH: Just fine, sir.
CALLER: Hey, I wanted to give you a call and let you know that I agree with you a hundred percent. I’m a retired military. I went out. I heard about all this hubbub with Cindy out here, so I thought, you know —
RUSH: Wait, wait. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Cindy who?
CALLER: Cindy Sheehan.
RUSH: Oh. We’re back to that. Okay.
CALLER: So I went out, and I had to see for myself, okay, what’s going on out here, what’s all the hubbub about. So I went out, and I decided that I needed to walk in amongst everyone, small little groups out there, protesters, and listen to what was actually being said, and I’ll tell you what I heard. I never heard anything about Cindy’s grief. I never heard — and I’m sure she’s grieving. Anyone who loses a child will grieve. I give her that. I never heard anything about her grief. I never heard anything mentioned from that group of people about Casey. The only thing I heard from group to group was a constant barrage of, “Hey, keep the pressure on. We’ve got to get the Republicans out. We’ve got to get Democrats in the upcoming election,” and I thought, “Oh, my gosh! Wait a minute. I thought this was a protest about the Iraq war and about Cindy’s grief,” and it had nothing to do with that. There’s no doubt in my mind that this protest has absolutely nothing to do with anything but the upcoming presidential election, and I say that from being able to walk amongst all those people and listen to them. I spoke with her. I shot pictures of her.
RUSH: Whoa, whoa, whoa. You spoke with who?
CALLER: With Cindy Sheehan.
RUSH: You spoke with Cindy Sheehan? Did she cuss you out?
CALLER: No, but I gotta tell you: if they find out out there, they’re not the nice people that CNN is showing. I saw them go over and just about attack a young girl who was very distraught because her brother had died in Iraq, and they had all those crosses up, and his name was on the cross. So the mother and the sister came out to remove that. They didn’t want him to be a part of that, and so they encircled her, tried to stop her from being able to get the cross, she finally did. They were just about at the point of attacking her, told her that her brother was a murderer, that he had killed innocent people, and that he died for nothing.
RUSH: (Laughing.) Oh, God.
CALLER: You know, and as a photographer I understand, you know —
RUSH: Well, now, I gotta stop you there on that, Michael, because they’re parroting what Cindy Sheehan is saying when they tell you that. They believe that independently of her, but that is part of her message that Bush is a murderer, and so they’re telling these parents that want their sons and daughters’ names off these crosses, they come down and try to remove the crosses and the names that their kids are just murderers?
CALLER: You’re right. They will encircle them. They’ll do everything they can to stop them, and they are, and I have to tell you, now, they are not a peaceful group of people out there. They can be very vicious. I watched as I was speaking to a group of Bush supporters, it was a small group, granted, but it was a group out there supporting our military, supporting the president, and I turned and I saw a group of gentlemen over with Cindy, and they had a young boy probably about ten years old, and they kept sending him over to say things to try to antagonize the conservative group over there in support of the president.
RUSH: Let me stop you. Did this really surprise you? I mean, it should be well known who these people are. They’re nothing but filled with rage. They’re angry, they’re miserable, and they’re trying to make everybody else miserable at the same time.
CALLER: You’re right.
RUSH: And you’re right, this is all about electoral politics. This is just the latest incarnation, I’m going to add the Wellstone memorial to it, the latest incarnation of the Wellstone memorial or the opportunity that Bill Burkett provided the left along with the media and the Jersey Girls and Richard Clarke. It’s obvious what this is, and they’re using Cindy Sheehan and her grief as a shield to give themselves credibility and to hide what their real motivations for being there are. That’s why they’re exploiting her.
CALLER: Exactly. I’m not shocked at all.
RUSH: Are they out there raising money? Michael, are they raising money, passing the hat trying to get people to give them money?
CALLER: I didn’t see them passing a hat but I did take a picture of her sitting in her van and I was standing right beside the van door listening to a conversation, and she just lit up like her world just got, you know, fantastic, and I heard her say, and I quote, that it is increasing by about a thousand dollars a day. So what I took that to mean and in talking to some of the other people out there, they’re out aggressively trying to earn money and so what I heard her say is the one — I took it to mean that they had the website going, and that they were increasing their funds by about a thousand dollars a day.
RUSH: Oh, it’s not just one website. They got all kinds of websites. MoveOn.org is down there, and I’m sure Soros got some people down there and they’re all using this, they’re all using her, they’re all using the occasion to advance themselves to raise money, and then you’ve got this silly, unquestioning without any curiosity sycophantic media. And you know what the media’s excuse is? “Well, Rush, you know, it’s the slow dog days of August. There’s no other news out there.” Ever heard of Able Danger and Colonel Shaffer? There’s lots of news out there. I talk about it all the time. I can fill a program every three hours without ever once mentioning Cindy Sheehan’s name. I’ve been doing it all week long. There’s plenty of news — they want this story, and they want it cast exactly as it is being.
RUSH: All right, we have a bit of a dispute amongst ourselves here at the Southern Command of the Excellence in Broadcasting Network. Our last caller was Michael from Crawford, Texas. Mr. Snerdley has his doubts about the veracity and the honesty of our previous caller, and here’s why.
Snerdley said to me during the break, “I just don’t believe this guy, Rush. I think you’re too open. You accept these people. They call here, and they just say anything.”
I said, “What do you mean?”
“Okay, the guy says he’s down there one day. He’s there one day and he goes walking through this camp of vigilers — vigilists, whatever they’re doing down there, the Cindy Sheehan squatters camp — and he’s telling all these stories about fund-raising and they’re calling people that died in Iraq murderers when their parents want to come and take their names off the crosses and that they’re all excited about how much money they’re raising down there, and, Rush, the guy’s been there one day. We’ve been listening to the media for two weeks on this story, and they haven’t said one thing about that. Now, why do you think this guy is telling the truth? He was just there for one day, and he didn’t sound like he was there, by the way. He sounded like he was in air-conditioned comfort to me. I didn’t hear any sounds like he was outside and sweating and any of that? What makes you believe him?”
Snerdley is asking me this during the break, and I said, “Well, I’ll have to stop and think about this,” because Snerdley has a point, folks. He’s got a point. Here’s our buddy Michael from Crawford, and he calls. He’s in there one day. He’s a photographer; he’s in there one day — oh, and get this. After his call was over, he wanted to tell the call screener one more thing. The call screener told me during the break that this guy said that he stayed at a motel last night, and do you know who was in the room below his? Cindy Sheehan. Now, that makes me also doubt this guy. Snerdley may have a point, because the media says that she’s 24/7 in the ditch, that this is a vigil, and then we heard that some guy who’s got a ranch about a mile away offered his ranch to Cindy to stay there when the heat was getting a little bit oppressive and a lot of attention, the media. There was more parking down there. This guy was just trying to be a good citizen and I don’t know if she took him up on it or not. But I mean the media is telling us that this woman is roughing it out there using Port-A-Potties and tree leaves for toilet paper and so forth and she’s out there 24/7, she’s in the ditch and she is in the midst of a vigil and here comes this guy out of nowhere calling us and telling all these harebrained stories, he was only there one day. I don’t know what to do. Who do we believe? Yeah, well, I forgot to ask if he knows Christopher Hitchens. (Laughing.) No, obviously, my friends, we’re illustrating absurdity by being absurd. The point is, here’s a guy who goes down there and spends a day, not even a full day down there, to get the full story of what’s going on and what he tells us is not reflective of one thing we’ve heard from the mainstream press about this little gaggle of squatters down there ostensibly engaged in a vigil for the sad fate of the murder of Cindy Sheehan’s son by George W. Bush, the president. He did tell us that Sheehan was in the motel room below him. She’s not out there in the ditch. She’s not using tree leaves for toilet paper. She’s got all the comforts that a fine Texas motel can offer. Joni in Bradenton, Florida, welcome to the EIB Network. Nice to have you with us.
CALLER: Hey, Rush, listen I just wanted to tell you it just makes me want to throw up about what a liar President Clinton is when you play that audio of him saying, “Oh, I guess I was too obsessed with trying to get Osama bin Laden.”
RUSH: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! Let’s listen to the tape again because that’s not what he said, it’s even better than that. Let’s listen to it and then give me your comments afterwards, because you’re commenting on, people may not have heard it, we played it a little while ago, it’s a tape from September 3rd, 2002, Bob Dole and Bill Clinton are on Larry King Live, and King asks Clinton, “Do you remember what you were thinking, Mr. President, at the time the twin towers went up, what would go through the mind of the immediate former president watching this?” (SEE: Clinton’s “Virtual Obsession” with Bin Laden)
CLINTON: I remember exactly what happened. Bruce Lindsey said to me on the phone, “My God, a second plane has hit the tower,” and I said, “Bin Laden did this.” That’s the first thing I said. He said, “How can you be sure?” I said, “Because only bin Laden and the Iranians could set up the network to do this and they wouldn’t do it because they have a country in targets, bin Laden did.”
KING: Did you also think at the same time we came pretty close to getting him?
CLINTON: Yeah. I thought that my virtual obsession with him —
CLINTON: — was well placed and I was full of regret that I didn’t get him. I mean, I immediately thought that he’d done it.
CALLER: Oh, my God.
RUSH: My virtual obsession. Virtual is right, you know, these virtual reality games, virtual obsession. So he was obsessed with bin Laden, he was presented to him twice, maybe three times in the Sudan. He didn’t want to deal with it. This is just comical as it can be. What is your comment about it?
CALLER: Exactly, and as I say it just makes you want to throw up. If you read Lieutenant Colonel Patterson’s book, Dereliction of Duty, he cites numerous occasions when our Special Ops guys actually had bin Laden right in their sights and they were calling in for the okay to get him, and they said we can capture him or we can kill him either way and Lieutenant Colonel Patterson who, you know, carried the nuclear football for Clinton at his side for four years relayed the message from Sandy Berger and he said they can get him, they have an hour of opportunity, they need to know, they need an answer, what do you want him to do, and Clinton kept saying I’ll get back to them, I’ll get back to them and he would go into like a VIP room and schmooze at a golf tournament while they were waiting.
RUSH: Hey, hey, hey, hey. Don’t be too hard on golf. Don’t blame golf tournaments for what Clinton didn’t do with bin Laden.
CALLER: Yeah, but he was using that room to sit there and avoid going and getting our Special Ops guys who are desperate for the word to take the guy out.
RUSH: I know.
CALLER: They wouldn’t do it. Oh, it just makes me…
RUSH: It makes you want to throw up.
CALLER: It does, and how come Lieutenant Colonel Patterson wasn’t interviewed by the 9/11 Commission if they were trying to get to the bottom of what really happened?
RUSH: Because they weren’t.
RUSH: They weren’t trying to get to the bottom of it, it was a whitewash. It was, as I say, two purposes. It was nail Bush if possible, protect Clinton at the least, and if those two both fail make sure that no Washington elitist from the political class gets nailed in this. That was the purpose. These guys are going to circle the wagons around each other. There’s no question about (interruption). What is this, now? Okay, now Snerdley — Joni, pardon me. Can you hang on here just a second?
CALLER: I’m sorry, Rush. Sure I can go.
CALLER: I can hang up, that’s okay.
RUSH: No, I don’t want you to hang up. I want you to hold on.
RUSH: Put her on hold out there so (interruption). Snerdley, stop this. I don’t know what’s gotten into you. Snerdley interrupted me during a brilliant response to what she was saying by telling me he doesn’t believe her either because he hadn’t heard any of this in the mainstream press. “She can quote any book that this guy Patterson wrote, but the mainstream press hasn’t reported it, so how can we trust it?” What’s gotten into you? I haven’t seen one story that supports this. I’ve not seen it on ABC. I’ve not seen it on NBC. I’ve not seen it on CBS. I’ve not. So he’s raising his hands in victory. So now two people in a row. You think this woman from Bradenton, Florida is a kook because she’s relying on this Patterson guy who you think is a kook and then this photographer down at Crawford you think is a kook because we haven’t heard any of this in the mainstream press? Okay, point taken. Bring Joni back here. Joni, I’m sorry for that interruption. I’m losing control of Snerdley here today. Are you back?
CALLER: Yes, yes, Rush, thank you.
RUSH: Let me answer your question about, okay, Clinton is told by Burglar, “Okay, we’ve got an hour. The Special Ops guys want to go get him.” I have two theories on this. The first theory is: I don’t think Bill Clinton in his entire eight years wanted to deal with one thing big. I don’t think he wanted to deal with anything that risked his poll numbers. I don’t think he wanted to do anything that would risk his legacy.
CALLER: That’s right.
RUSH: I think he wanted to preside over a decade that after it was over he could say was the best in America, we had no worries, the Soviets had been defeated, the Cold War was over, we had the peace dividend, we could spend it left and right, we could concentrate on making the country whole, and we could do all these wonderful things, had this great, roaring economy. He didn’t want to deal with hard issues. I think that’s why the Able Danger guys had trouble getting the news of Mohamed Atta to this administration back in ’99 and 2000. They didn’t want to deal with this, and that’s one of the reasons for the wall. They build the wall and they handle these cases as though they’re legal cases, they sent all the data to the grand jury, and Clinton didn’t want this going to the grand jury. He didn’t want the news that bin Laden was in sight because the answer would have been from Clinton, (doing impression) “Well, I can’t just assassinate somebody! Frank Church says I can’t do that. The CIA can’t assassinate. I just can’t do that. We’ve got nothing on this guy, nothing whatsoever, so training camp out there or whatever. I can’t do anything about it. I can’t do it.” The reason he didn’t want to do it is because he was afraid of the reaction in the bin Laden world and he had no stomach for it, and yet, after 9/11 happens, the Clinton people start bellyaching and whining and moaning about how nothing big happened on their watch. Clinton never had a real chance for greatness like Bush did, and they were lamenting that if 9/11 was going to happen, why couldn’t it have happened when Clinton was in the office?
RUSH: This administration is as psychosomatic as its leader was, and the more time passes, the more we learn, thanks to guys like Buzz Patterson, it isn’t going to be long before everybody understands just what incompetence and selfish self-absorption dominated the day for eight years in that White House.
CALLER: That’s absolutely right, because until the American people actually have the guts — and especially those senators, Republican senators in Washington — to call it like it is, it was because of this guy and no guts and he hated the military and he didn’t want to be involved and all he cared about was his legacy, that 3,000 innocent mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters have been murdered, and nobody has the guts to say it. Somebody needs to read Lt. Colonel Patterson’s book. He was the one that was right there standing next to him. And you know, like you said, why isn’t he being interviewed by ABC and why isn’t the New York Times doing an investigation of what he has to say? But they are sure as heck investigating whether President Bush went to the dentist.
RUSH: See, everybody knows the answers to these questions. They didn’t want this kind of thing. To them all these people are kooks, and all these theories are wacko and conspiratorial and they don’t want any part of it. Joni, I’m glad you called, but I’m up against it on time. I have to run. Thanks for your patience with us because I had to deal with Snerdley again.