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RUSH: Mia in Miami. Great to have you. I’m glad you called.

CALLER: Hi, Rush. I just want to start by saying that you send a thrill up my brain.

RUSH: Ooh.

CALLER: (laughing) I’ll tell you, I’m gonna give you credit because I went back to school a couple of years ago to finish on my degree in political science and what I’ve learned from you in all these years helped me to graduate magna cum laude, Phi Sigma Alpha and in another honor group.

RUSH: Well, wait a minute. Congratulations. That is great. Magna cum laude! That is serious.

CALLER: Yeah. I mean, I studied because I just went back five semesters and failure was not an option, and listening to you all these years actually helped me to understand and have common sense because I would make a lot of connections in my head —

RUSH: Yeah?

CALLER: — when I hear certain issues and things that happen in history, and, you know, at the end of the day it’s like the laws of physics. It’s cause and effect. But the reason I’m calling is, I am gay. However, I consider myself a conservative person. And based on your premise in which conservatives are neither racists, bigots, or homophobes, my premise in life is that I believe in life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. My partner and I were both very attractive women. We are not your typical militant gays because I guess we view life differently, maybe because of our background. My parents were from Cuba, and she’s from Venezuela, so we are fully aware of how socialism/communism works.

RUSH: Yeah, you’ve come from totalitarian countries.

CALLER: Correct. So maybe we just view life, you know, with common sense. We don’t go out to the gay parades or anything like that. I have a friend that runs the Log Cabin Republicans here in Miami, and, you know, we believe in small government and government just getting out of your life. You just live a type of life where you help each other out, your fellow man out, and live a low profile life.

RUSH: All right, you don’t identify, then, with what is known as “the gay agenda”? The gay agenda is wrapped up in liberalism.

CALLER: Well, true. I mean, I’ll give you an… I mean, we’ve been together for nine years, and, you know, she works for a private company. For years, a lot of private companies have offered domestic partnership health insurance. All this time of course we’ve been getting it. Hers is pretax; mine’s not. We’re paying heavy taxes on mine.

We got a letter last year that, based on the ruling from the Supreme Court, they were gonna recognize marriage, even though it’s not recognized in Florida, but for tax purposes. Now, we did it based on an economic reason, not because that piece of paper was going to change the feelings of one another. I mean, we’ve been together for nine years. We have a monogamous relationship.

So based on economic reasons, we got married, and now we’re able to file differently. Now my health insurance gets pre-taxed just like hers; I hate giving more money to the federal government for taxes when I see the way they just throw it away and the misspending of our dollars here and the debt that we have amassed, especially in the last five years.

RUSH: All right, now, wait. You got married, as you say, for economic reasons.

CALLER: Correct.

RUSH: But tell me, what is the primary reason that marriage so important to other gays?

CALLER: You know what? For me, it’s economic. I don’t know what other people think, and I don’t get into what their reasons are. Actually, if you really think about it, I don’t care if you’re gay or straight. If you’re getting married in city hall like we did, it’s a civil union — or if you’re getting married by a judge, a notary, it’s a civil union. The problem is, you’re not gonna change marriage. I mean, in a Webster dictionary, let’s face it, the definition of marriage is between a man and a woman.


CALLER: I went to Catholic school. It’s a sacrament, okay?

RUSH: No. No.

CALLER: And I understand that.

RUSH: No, no. That’s what’s being changed.

CALLER: I understand. But, see, that’s what I’m afraid of, because this is where you start a precedent. Once you change the definition of one word, why don’t you change the definition of other words? So the problem is when government got involved in marriage, because back in the day when you got married in your church — by a priest, a pastor, a minister — it was registered at the church.

It wasn’t registered by your local town. It’s that moment, okay, in history when government decided to get involved in marriage and where you had to go get a marriage license, it changed. I mean, ’cause face it: When you get married at the church or a synagogue, you still have to go get a marriage license.

RUSH: That’s so people do not get married who shouldn’t and produce offspring like Harry Reid. That’s why the government issues marriage license. That’s why the government got involved, and it didn’t work in the Reid family case, but that’s how it’s designed. You know, I’ve always thought that most homosexuals would naturally gravitate toward conservatism because conservatism is rooted in freedom.

But I know that that’s not the case. I know that most homosexuals gravitate toward government because the things they desire require a lot of power to make happen, and government is the most powerful entity that people willingly surrender to. So that explains in large part, I think, why something I would think most homosexuals gravitate toward — conservatism — don’t.

It is because force is needed or power is needed, to effect what many of them want. Not necessarily you because you’ve expressed yourself very well. But look, Mia, I appreciate that. Did you hear what she said? She said that she gets “a tingle up her brain.” I didn’t graduate like she did. If I had, I would have graduated Summa cum laude, not Magna, but Summa Cum. Anyway, Mia, thanks much. I appreciate the call. I really do.

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