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RUSH: Here’s Pam in Homer, Alaska, as we head back to the phones. Thank you for calling. Great to have you here, Pam. Hi.

CALLER: Hi. I’m so excited to talk to you. I’ve got so many questions for you, but I’m gonna —

RUSH: Well, fire away.

CALLER: (giggling)

RUSH: I love answering questions. I absolutely adore questions, and there’s nobody better you could ask.

CALLER: (giggling)

RUSH: So this is gonna work well.

CALLER: I want to bypass my questions for a second ’cause I think there’s a more important thing I want to tell you, and it’s a little insight into my generation and the generations coming up behind me.

RUSH: How old are you? What generation? Are you a Millennial?

CALLER: Yeah, I think I’m kind of right in between there. I’m 33.


RUSH: Ah, you’re close enough to a Millennial.

CALLER: Yeah.

RUSH: We’ll call you a Millennial, yeah.

CALLER: (giggles) Well, I can sum up the problem in one word, and it explains literally everything from the Occupy Wall Street movement to why somebody’s approval ratings can be as low as our president’s are and people will still continue to vote toward the liberal side of things. It’s a worldview that has been deeply and systematically ingrained into my generation since the day of Saturday morning cartoons, and it’s called “victimology.”

There are people who are born inherently victims of society and people who are born inherently oppressors. Our job is to throw a wrench in that system, and even out the playing field by the way that we vote, by the way that we live, by the way that we spend our money. My generation will consistently try to buy back their own redemption by doing things that are to their own detriment.

They will vote for liberals even when they feel the terrible place that that puts them in. They will consistently do this, even when it comes to little stuff. They will bypass a $1 Hershey bar to buy a $5 fair-trade chocolate bar wrapped in recycled paper that’s “organic” because it’s our redemption to do that. It’s our job —

RUSH: What a minute. Wait, wait, wait. Your “redemption” from what? I mean, I think I know, but I want to hear you say it. Redemption from what? What do you what do you need redemption from?

CALLER: From being “oppressors. ” I’m white and I’m born in America, and regardless of my experience or my feelings or my beliefs, that makes me somebody who would oppress other people in it or anyone else.

RUSH: Minorities.

CALLER: The thing is that the media’s role is to help us understand who the oppressor and who the victim is in any given situation. So you take a case like the Trayvon Martin case where it gets a little bit dicey because you have a black kid and a Hispanic man, and they help us understand who the victim and who the oppressor is by calling him a “white Hispanic.”

RUSH: Right. Exactly right.


CALLER: The Occupy Wall Street movement, Rush? (giggles) That was white middle class America trying to gain victim status for themselves, because it’s hard to live under the weight of being called the oppresses of society like that. But it’s so deeply ingrained that people truly believe that. The only people I know that consistently throw around terms like “white privilege” are my white friends. They really truly believe that they are the absolute worst of society.

RUSH: I have no doubt, but I only got 10 seconds here, so I need you to hang on through the break here the bottom of the hour for my upcoming interrogation.

CALLER: Okay. (giggles)

RUSH: Can you hang on?

CALLER: Yeah. Yes.

RUSH: This is Pam in Homer, Alaska. She’s 33. And we’ll be back.

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RUSH: We go back to Homer, Alaska. This is Pam. Look, I understand exactly what you’re saying. Your generation — and you’re, by the way, almost considered Gen X. I mean, you’re a little older than most Millennials.

CALLER: Yeah.

RUSH: But you’re close enough that you might be able to say that.

CALLER: I’m kind of in between. (giggles)

RUSH: Yeah, you’re kind of a crossover depending on what day, however you want to feel about yourself. But the whole notion of victimology, I totally get it. The whole notion of redemption is how the global warming movement has created so many guilty people.

CALLER: Oh, yeah.

RUSH: “You’re destroying the planet. Your very existence is destroying the planet, but you can redeem yourself if you do X, Y, and Z.”

CALLER: Yeah.


RUSH: Now who’s teaching these kids this stuff? I mean, you say it’s the media, but you have a kid that’s born and he goes to school. How does a how does a “white kid” all of a sudden start believing that he’s “a natural born prosper” just because he’s white? Who’s inculcating these kids with this stuff?

CALLER: Well, I think it depends on where you grow up. Specifically myself, I grew up in a suburb of Detroit and went to a school where I was a minority. There were only a handful of white kids in my school, and so I got fed it all the time in the literature that we were reading for school

RUSH: Okay. What about…?

CALLER: It was just in an atmosphere.

RUSH: Granted it’s in education. There’s no question.

CALLER: Yeah.

RUSH: But what about your parents? Did your parents teach you that you were in need of redemption, that you were an oppressor —

CALLER: No. No.

RUSH: — or did your parents teach you, alternately, that you were a victim and that people owe you something?

CALLER: No. But I think this has something that our… (sigh) It’s kind of a weird situation. I feel like our generation picked that up, and it was kind of their rebellion against their parents to believe that about themselves.

RUSH: Yup.

CALLER: You know, their the parents were the reason for the problem, and, “You know, we’re the ones that are the enlightened generation. We know this about ourselves and we’re gonna do something about it.” You know, maybe that sounds kind of weird but my parents —

RUSH: No, no, it makes total sense! “Mommy! Mommy! Why are you and Daddy driving that car? You’re killing the polar bears, don’t you know?”

CALLER: Yeah.

RUSH: I get it. I get it totally.

CALLER: Exactly. I watched Captain Planet when I was a kid. (giggles)

RUSH: Captain Planet.

CALLER: I didn’t know what I was watching.

RUSH: It was one of the first assaults on young kids to make them think they’re parents and the adults were destroying the planet.

CALLER: Yeah. Yeah.

RUSH: Of course there’s also another aspect to it. I often say, “You know, everybody wants their life to mean something, especially to themselves.” Everybody wants meaning. You can hear it expressed in all kinds of different ways, but the best way to recognize somebody who’s in need of a little self-esteem (despite how much it’s taught) is when they say, “I want to make a difference.”

All right. When you hear that, then you’re listening to somebody who is not really all that pleased with themselves. It’s some sort of guilt trip that they’re on or they feel that their life has no meaning because of one thing or another. Those people are ripe for others to come along, “Well, you’re a natural victim,” or, “You are an oppressor! You’re destroying the planet,” or, well, whatever it is. It’s easy.

I mean, how much more meaning can your life have than to “save” the planet? I mean, my God! You can’t get any more important and meaningful than that. So it’s very seductive. So if it’s not happening in homes, it’s happening in schools, which is not a surprise. I saw a piece. You know, I wish I had kept this, and I may have. It may be back on the desk at the Southern Command in Florida.

There was a story from an obscure website, Pam. It was about a college student, a guy, and it was the most incredible thing. He was going on and on and on about the guilt he felt due to his “whiteness.” But the way he expressed it was close — it was bordering on — insanity. It was clear that this kid had been guilt-tripped like you cannot believe. He is exactly the thing that you’re talking about here.

CALLER: Yeah.

RUSH: He was writing this for redemption, in part, but also he was trying to spread the word and explain his guilt and to get everybody to join him in understanding how their “whiteness” was one of the greatest threats to the future of the world, and you have to be really conscious of your “whiteness” and you have to keep your “whiteness” in check, and he wished he could change it.

CALLER: Yeah.

RUSH: Now, this is something… Nobody is gonna naturally feel anything like that. That has to be taught. It has to be programmed and inculcated.

CALLER: Yeah.

RUSH: I think you’re right. All these things are very seductive.

CALLER: Well, I think if we’re gonna talk about trying to win back the country through elections and stuff, this is the kind of stuff that needs to be undermined and picked apart. I reject the premise of that worldview. I’m not a born oppressor. I did not have all sorts of privilege due to my skin color growing up. I just didn’t! I had to pay my own way through college. My parents couldn’t help me with that. I worked 60 hours a week in the summer, you know? I mean, my own experience tells me otherwise.

RUSH: Well, of course the —

CALLER: I just don’t understand why so many people just buy it hook, line, and sinker. “This is who I am, and this is what I have to do as a result of it.” But if we’re gonna start winning back the country, we have to attack this. It’s not just facts.

RUSH: Fine. How would you do it?

CALLER: It’s not just poll numbers and all that stuff that’s gonna do it.

RUSH: How would you do it?

CALLER: (sighs) Honestly, I don’t even know. I just point it out to people when I see it, because I have those friends that would say those kinds of things, like, “I wish I wasn’t white,” you know? (sigh)

RUSH: Look, here’s the thing.

CALLER: As often as I can, I attack this when I see it.

RUSH: Pam, the bottom line with all these characteristics that you’re talking about — either feeling like a born oppressor or victim — you have to be taught to hate yourself. You have to be taught in order to think yourself guilty. You have to be taught in order to think of yourself as an “oppressor” simply because of your of your skin color. You have to be taught all these things.

These are not rational. This is why it’s so hard to combat. It’s not rational, and fighting it rationally doesn’t seem to accomplish anything because the positions these kids you’re talking about hold, the things they believe are entirely irrational. Except to them. To them it makes perfect sense and explains everything. It explains their unhappiness. It explains why they’re miserable. It explains why they don’t have a future.

And it gives them meaning in life to shake off these things that they were born with.

More importantly, the way they’re taught, they had nothing to do with it. They were born oppressors! They were born victims. They’re just minding their own business and all of a sudden they were converted into the oppressors. It’s not something that they took active roles in becoming. So they’re not guilty of any of it, truly.

CALLER: Yeah.

RUSH: It all adds up to whether oppressors or victim, they all end up being victims of something — and, sadly, they think they’re victims of an unjust, immoral country.

CALLER: Yeah.

RUSH: Because —

CALLER: And that’s exactly it. That’s why I wanted to bypass my own questions to throw that out at you because if anybody has a voice in our country, it’s you. I’ve been listening to you for so long, and I feel like if somebody could attack this, it’s gotta be you. I don’t know how to do it just in my little circle of influence, but people want to hear it.

RUSH: I’m thinking as I speak to you what I would do. Let’s say a hypothetical, let’s say I had a kid, say I had a child and one day the kid comes home and starts hitting me with, “Dad, you know what, we’re nothing but oppressors! We’ve oppressed people and we hold people back and we have murdered people and we’ve committed genocide.” Okay, I’m hearing this, my kid comes home from school thinking, how would I go about it? That’s what I’m thinking about here as you explain all this. And, of course, I have a lot confidence. I think I could straighten a kid out like that inside of a week, if I had access to ’em.

CALLER: Yeah.

RUSH: But I could be wrong. It’s deeply embedded in these kids, I know.

CALLER: Well, it’s systematic, too. It was very purposeful that that’s our worldview. People who got a hold of the education system and the media deliberately set out to do that.

RUSH: Right. And for what purpose, do you think?

CALLER: Well, I mean, look at our country now. You said, I remember clearly, this is what kind of turned the light on for me. You said during the reelection of Barack Obama, you said no president has ever had poll numbers as low as his and gotten reelected. And I remember feeling so hopeful because of that, that we were gonna get rid of this guy, and then he got reelected. And I was thinking to myself, why? Why would people continue to vote for somebody that they don’t even approve of? And it’s because it’s some sort of success that we would nominate somebody with his skin color when our world is the way that it is from their standpoint.

RUSH: That’s exactly right. Voting gives you a way to say you’re a good person. “Look what I did. I’m a good person. I was not racist. I canceled out my oppressive nature, and I did the right thing,” and all that.

CALLER: “To my own detriment, I fell on my own sword.”

RUSH: You know what the real root of this is, Pam? If we had somebody that was 110 years old alive, 115 years old listening to this, you know what they would say?

CALLER: What?

RUSH: They would be totally confused, and they would say, “When did people start to have so much time to do nothing but think about themselves?” They would say, “We never had time to be this introspective. We had work to do. We had things to accomplish. We had families to feed. We had wars to fight. There were enemies trying to end the country. We didn’t have time to get into our feelings all the damn day. When did that start?”

CALLER: (laughing)

RUSH: I’m telling you, that’s a relevant aspect of this, too. People have so much free time. There are 92 million Americans not working. And we know that most people are self-focused. You know one of the things, I have trouble explaining this, I have trouble expressing this. But let me give it another stab. Everybody is so worried — and this is natural — about what other people think of them. What they forget is, that everybody else is also worried about what everybody thinks of them, that nobody’s really thinking about anybody but themselves.

That’s being advised and all this self-analysis, and we start teaching self-esteem as an actual course or subject in school and so forth. And so your feelings and how you feel about yourself, in normal time, people don’t have time for this. There are too many other things that you have to do that people don’t have the time. I don’t know. But it’s a great point that you’re making, and the real trick in fighting it is coming up with ways of getting through to these kids ’cause it isn’t rational, and talking sanely to insane people never works. Talking rationally to irrational people is a difficult thing to do, too. But look, I appreciate the call. It’s very nice of you and I appreciate time.

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