RUSH: Okay. We’ll try again here on the phones. Blaine in Charleston, South Carolina. Welcome, sir. Great to have you here.
CALLER: Thanks, Rush. Just a quick comment about the Savannah Guthrie interview with the young boy. Asking him about wearing the red hat causing all that? Isn’t that akin to, like, a rape victim getting asked if because of the way she was dressed is the reason she was assaulted?
RUSH: Yeah, exactly. I made the point yesterday when it was discovered that the MAGA hat was the trigger, and we had the Catholic priest say they had no right to be wearing the cap. The Catholic priest — Father Beck something or other was his name — said they had no right to be wearing the cap! No right to be wearing the cap? From their own diocese, I think. So I asked a simple question: Now, wait a minute. When women are targeted for abuse, sexual abuse, rape and so forth, if you dare say that they were dressed provocatively, you were shouted down.
You were told to shut up. Women cannot be blamed because of their attire, because of their manner. There’s no excuse whatsoever. Here we have a situation where the Catholic priest… He’s a CNN commentator. We played the sound bite of the guy talking about this. “They have no right to wear a Make America Great Again hat!” Now, imagine, imagine anybody on CNN saying to a woman who has been raped or molested that was on TV, “You’ve got no right to be wearing those short shorts! You have no right to be wearing dresses with cleavage like that.”
Imagine the reaction to it! Here’s the thing. The “Make America Great Again” hat was a trigger. It was a trigger for these people on our side who had a conniption over this. All they saw… All they saw was a bunch of kids that support Trump — and since they hate Trump, they hated the kids. Let me ask you this, folks. Do you think we would even be talking about this if that kid, Nick Sandmann, had not been wearing a MAGA hat? I’ve had people tell me that. “If he hadn’t a worn that hat, this would have never become a story.”
“The video would have been uninteresting,” and there may be something to it. But I don’t think that does anything but indict further the bigots! What is this? We’re supposed to worry about triggering the media? We’re supposed to worry about triggering the left? So don’t wear the “Make America Great Again” hat? And that’s what’s gonna be happening. “Look, let’s not wear the hat. We don’t want to become targets. We have to hide what we believe. We have to hide what we support so that we don’t become targets, so we don’t get the media defaming us.”
That’s where this is gonna go. There are elements of conservatism that already advocate this kind of thing for people. “Don’t make yourself a target.” What it results in is a bunch of conservatives going silent and not voicing anything anywhere because they don’t want to be targeted like this kid has been targeted, like these kids have been targeted. So it’s another form of censorship. It’s another form of politically correct censorship that we cave into and let people get away with.
What do you mean, being triggered by a cap? Even so-called conservative intellectuals on our side, and Savannah Guthrie… Let’s get to the audio sound bites of the interview. We have them here. I’ve been waiting for the proper transition. It was on the Today show today. Now, when I first discovered that the Sandmann family had decided to do their interview with the Today show, I said, “Okay, who’s advising them here?” By the way, you know what? That brings up a whole other can of worms.
There are people out there now starting to criticize this family for going and getting a PR firm. “They have no right! They’re getting a PR firm? A PR firm is purposely to spin and not tell the truth!” Now they’re getting ripped for getting a PR firm. Sandra Fluke had a PR firm. Do you know that? The whole thing was staged and orchestrated like everything on the left is! PR firms are among the first people Democrat campaigns hire. I said, “Why are they doing the Today show?” But then it didn’t matter. I thought Mr. Sandmann held his own, was pretty good. Let’s go to these sound bites. This was this morning, and these are in somewhat chronological order.
Here’s Savannah Guthrie with the first question…
GUTHRIE: Do you feel from this experience that you owe anybody an apology? Do you see your own fault in any way?
SANDMANN: As far as standing there, I had every right to do so. I don’t… My position is that I was not disrespectful to Mr. Phillips. I respect him. I’d like to talk to him. I mean, in hindsight, I wish we could have walked away and avoided the whole thing. But I can’t say that I’m sorry for listening to him and standing there.
RUSH: Now, did you notice this question? (impression) “Did you feel from this experience…?” What are we listening to, Christine Blasey Ford? What’s happening to these women in journalism? Do they feel like we’re talking to an infant here, or they want us to think they’re talking to somebody with a single brain cell, an amoeba? “Do you feel from this experience that you owe anybody an apology?” Do we not by now know what happened? He doesn’t owe anybody an apology!
He is owed the apology by you in the media and by Nathan Phillips and by the Black Israelite Confederates or whatever they are and the Drive-By Media at large! He doesn’t owe anybody an apology! Apologize for wearing the cap? Apologizing for smiling? Well, what does he have to apologize for? And, by the way, I have to give Mr. Sandmann here a bunch of attaboys, because he did what few would. Most would say (hysterical crying), “I do! I want to apologize! (sobbing) I’m soooo sorry! I didn’t mean to be wearing the cap! God, if I could take it back! Oh ho-ho-hooooo!” (wailing)
That’s what most Republicans would do. They would cave in the face of this heat from the Drive-By Media. But Nick Sandmann says, “As far as standing there, I had every right to do so. My position is I was not disrespectful to Mr. Phillips. I respect him. I’d like to talk to him. I wish we’d have walked away,” ’cause who wants to be in this kind of imbroglio? But I have nothing to apologize for. What is this question, “Do you feel from this experience you owe anybody an apology?”
That’s the question you ask before you learn the truth of this, Ms. Guthrie! All right. What’s next? The question from Savannah Guthrie (impression), “Do you think it was a good idea to start chanting back at the protesters?” They weren’t chanting back. You know what they did? They did their school song. They were getting in on the zeitgeist, the spirit of the times. So the Indian’s out there banging the war drum and doing his chant. The Congressional Black Israelites are over there shouting their profane invectives. So the kids said, “Hey, let’s get in on this.”
(impression) “Do you think it was a good idea to start…?” So she is hell-bent on still portraying these kids as the provocateurs, and here is what Nicholas Sandmann said in reply…
SANDMANN: In hindsight, I wish we had just found another spot to wait for our buses. But at the time, being positive seemed better than letting them slander us with all of these things. So, I wish we could have walked away.
GUTHRIE: Did anyone shout any insults back or any racial slurs back at the group?
RUSH: Ah, come on! What is that?
SANDMANN: We’re a Catholic school and it’s not tolerated. They don’t tolerate racism, and none of my classmates are racist people.
RUSH: I can’t believe this! All right. (impression) “Do you think it was a good idea to start chanting back at the protesters?” Anything to try to make sure somebody, anybody sees the kids as guilty. Then he has another great answer. “I wish we had found another spot to wait for the buses.” Who wants to be part of this circus? “But at the time, being positive seemed better than letting them slander us with all of these things.”
In other words, “Why should we have to sit there and take being insulted verbally the way we were?” And then her next question: (impression) “Did anyone, uh, shout insults back or any racial slurs back at them?” So the Congressional Black Israelites or whatever, they can say whatever they want, and she’s not questioning it. But she wants to dig. “Did you dastardly kids act like racists and insult them back?” So in her mind, the kids are guilty, and the objective here is to entrap them and to demonstrate that.
RUSH: We have two more bites here. The next question from Savannah Guthrie,”The center of the firestorm is what critics characterize as a ‘smirk’ on your face. Some say it was an attempt to stare down” the beloved Indian chief and Vietnam War vet, the frail, barely able to walk and stand up man of nature beating on his drum smack-dab in your face. What do you think that looks like,” your smirk, your whiteness, your MAGA hat, your sarcasm, your whiteness and your MAGA cap? “What do you think that looks like” to people, you jerk kid?
SANDMANN: I see it as a smile saying that this is the best you’re going to get out of me. You won’t get any further reaction of aggression, and I’m willing to stand here as long as you want to hit this drum in my face.
GUTHRIE: What some people see is a young kid with a smirk on his face!
GUTHRIE: What would you say for people who see that and are making a judgment about who you are?
SANDMANN: Well, people have judged me based off one expression, which I wasn’t smirking but people have assumed that’s what I have, and they’ve gone from there to titling me and labeling me as a racist person, someone that’s disrespectful to adults, which they’ve had to assume so many things to get there without consulting anyone that can give them the opposite story.
RUSH: Nick, they’re not interested in the opposite story, and they’re not interested in the truth, as this line of questioning. “So some say…” Some? Who? “Some say it was….” You think, Savannah! Don’t use this ploy where, “Some say.” You take yourself out… You tell him to his face, “It looks to me like, you kid, that you’re smirking there as you stare down the beloved Indian chief! What do you think that looks like?” That’s what she’s asking. “Some say…” That’s like “if true.” “If it’s true…” “Some say…” Like on Twitter, or at Bill Kristol’s new magazine?
Where is this being said?
It’s the Drive-By Freaking Media is where it’s being said. So he answers it and says, (impression) “What some people see as a young kid with a smirk on his face. What would you say for people who see that and are making a judgment for who you are?” Journalist: “That’s a fair question, Mr. Limbaugh, you are misrepresenting what journalism is about. It’s a fair question because that attitude is out there. It may be a fair question, but there’s also a tone in the way this thing is asked, this is an accusation, and it’s browbeating. It’s what would be objected to in court ’cause you’re asking the question over and over again, and you’re not happy with the answer that you’re getting.
So up next is Savannah Guthrie asking Nick Sandmann about his standing his ground in front of the brave but frail barely able to walk and stand Native American war hero beating a drum right in front of his eyes.
GUTHRIE: There’s something aggressive about standing there, standing your ground. You both stood your ground. And it was like a stare down. What do you think of that now when you think about that moment?
SANDMANN: Mr. Phillips had his right to come up to me. I had my right to stay there. Our school was slandered by the African-Americans who had called us all sorts of things.
GUTHRIE: Do you think if you weren’t wearing that has had, this might not have happened or it might have been different?
SANDMANN: That’s possible but I would have to assume what Mr. Phillips was thinking, and I’d rather let him speak for why he came up to us. I have the utmost respect for Mr. Phillips, and I want to thank him for his military service as well. And I’d certainly like to speak with him.
RUSH: Right. So… I mean, you can’t do it any better than that, trying to disarm the situation here. Mr. Phillips had every right… There’s no question about that, in my mind. I mean, what gives you the right to start going up and intimidating people? The kids didn’t approach anybody. But boy, the frail Indian sure able scooted up there pretty quickly, didn’t he, beating on the war drum? “Our school was slandered by the African-Americans who’d called us all sorts of things.” (impression) “You think if you weren’t wearing that hat, this might not have happened, or it might have been different?”
His answer’s right on the money.
(summarized) “Well, maybe, but he would have to assume what that cap means I’m thinking at the moment, just like I would have to assume what Mr. Phillips was thinking, beating on his war drum and getting involved in war chants while we’re being assaulted here by the Congressional Black Israelites.” Jeez! So this was an effort here to cause a stumble. Mr. Sandmann was supposed to stumble here. He was supposed to trip and provide a sound bite that would allow the media to say, “See? See? This kid, this kid is vicious… This is viscous racism.” That’s what they wanted out of this. He didn’t give it to ’em. Congratulations.
RUSH: Okay. Back to the phones we go. This is L. Z. in Fredericksburg, Virginia. Great to have you. Hi.
CALLER: How are you doing today?
RUSH: Fine, sir. Thank you.
CALLER: I just wanted to start off and tell you I’m a strong Trump supporter and I love your show. I’ve been watching this thing with the Native American, and I’ve kind of been twisted on it. I — I — I don’t understand. Maybe these kids haven’t been taught their history or anything of what these Indians went through in the past. But I think both groups were in the wrong. I think the kids should have stepped aside and let these guys have five minutes, because we pushed these guys all the way across American… They’ve almost been to the extinction. I mean, just five minutes.
They could have a bigger person. I mean, they — and they chose to stand face to face. I could see the kids in the background jumping around and acting like idiots. A lot of people are rushing judgment on both sides. But, I mean, I — I just… It just breaks my heart that these people are Americans. Well, all of us, are Americans. We gotta do this. I always thought this was one nation for the people, by the people. But it seems like two nations not by the people and not for the people. And I think until we can get that together (muttering) and people better dig back in our history and just look at things.
RUSH: Well, who are the two nations? If we’re not one nation anymore, we’re two nations, what are the two factions that make up the nation now? What are the two nations?
CALLER: Well, you got a really sad Democrat Party that just doesn’t want to work with our president. And, you know, they put the government on a shutdown. I think Nancy and Schumer and all these people, maybe they should go without pay. Maybe they… If they want there illegals over here, maybe they should put ’em in their house. I mean, I don’t understand why we can’t take the drug money and use that to build the wall. I mean, God daggone, I’m an American! I’ve lived here all my life, and I’ve watched people get things taken away from ’em and handed to these illegals. I — I — I just don’t understand it. The whole country just upsets me.
RUSH: Well, you know, the ancestors of these illegals were here before we were just like the Indians.
CALLER: Well —
RUSH: The Mexicans used to own California, Texas, and Arizona.
RUSH: We took it back. And, you know, we’re not only just staring down the illegals, we’re sending ’em back.
CALLER: Oh, no, we’re terrible people. Not only have we taken out the Indians, we came over here… We wanted Texas. We took Texas away from the Mexicans. We took California.
CALLER: (garbled) … wasn’t giving back. We take and we take and we take. I mean, and it’s sad, ’cause I love America, and sometimes I’m just so ashamed of their path. But you gotta look at the (crosstalk).
RUSH: Ah, it’s a tough thing to have to deal with, I know. I know.
RUSH: Some days I can’t get out of bed thinking how bad America’s been.
CALLER: I mean, they just want to blame everything else and don’t want to fest up to it.
RUSH: Who did we take the state of Washington from? Wasn’t that the Eskimos? Hadn’t they migrated down from Alaska? We kicked them back up to Alaska. We didn’t want Alaska at the time, so we kicked ’em back up to igloos.
RUSH: And Hawaii! Look what we did to Hawaii. We stormed all the way across the Pacific Ocean to take Hawaii from those people. (Snort!) Man.
CALLER: Well, we took Alaska and took the Eskimos and made all their land National Parks. They didn’t like that, but —
CALLER: Better than being wrong —
RUSH: Not to mention the snail darter! We start building Walmarts where the snail darter habitat is.
CALLER: Yes. Yes. (crosstalk)
RUSH: Let me ask you, back to the Native American-Catholic kid controversy. If the kids had backed off like you asked that they do —
RUSH: — what do you think would have happened?
CALLER: I don’t know. I really don’t know. I wasn’t there. I just wish —
RUSH: You want me to tell you what would have happened?
CALLER: What would?
RUSH: I’ll be more than happy to tell you what happened. By the way, folks, what I have just shown here is how easy it has been to shame. I mean, he agreed with me that we’re so evil, that we took California and all away from Mexico. But anyway, that’s how easy it is. But I’m gonna tell you what would have happened here, L. Z.. If Nick Sandmann and his buddies from Covington High had backed off, Nathan Phillips would have followed. Nathan Phillips and his band of Indian marauders would have followed, and he would have continued to chant.
He would have continued to beat on the war drum. He would have sensed victory, and he would have kept approaching the kid no matter where they went! If the kids had backed off and tried to diffuse the confrontation — which is what they were doing! It’s what this kid was doing by smiling and standing his ground, non-provocatively. Had he backed off, he would have ended up in the clutches of the congressional Black Israelites, ’cause that’s where they were. So if they would have stepped back and then to the side, Nathan Phillips and his gang would have just followed them.
They would have sensed weakness.
They would have sensed victory over the kids and they would have kept following ’em and following ’em until the kids got on the bus and left!
The objective was to get those kids out of there!
The indigenous peoples and the Congressional Black Israelites owned that area, and they were not gonna let a bunch of pro-life Catholic kids come in there and take over their protest. So no matter what those kids would have done, Nathan Phillips would have used all the tactics he learned as a veteran from Vietnam (ahem, ahem) and tracked those kids all the way back to their bus. If you’re thinking that Nathan Phillips would have brought out the peace pipe and that the kids and the Indians would have been smoking the peace pipe and sharing recipes for how to skin salmon, it wasn’t going to happen.
RUSH: It was either yesterday or today on The View, the all-girl chat show on ABC in the morning, that Whoopi Goldberg was expressing frustration. It was about the contretemps at the Lincoln Memorial between the Covington kids, the Indigenous People’s March, and the Congressional Black Israelites. She was saying, (paraphrased) “Why does this always happen? Why is the first reaction always wrong and then people have to apologize and take back what they’ve said? Why can’t we just wait?” And Joy “Maude” Behar had an answer for her. She said (paraphrased), “Whoopi, the reason is that we want to get Trump out of office! That’s why. That’s why we don’t wait.
“Anything that looks like we might get Trump out of office, we’re gonna pick it and up we’re gonna run with it.” I’m paraphrasing what she said, but that’s pretty much it. So she was being praised today by various left-wing outlets for bringing honesty to broadcasting. In fact, do I have the sound of this? There was another bite. Sunny Hostin… I’ll look at my roster here. I either… No. Then it’s a news story I’ve got somewhere in it. But she was honest. At least, at least we get honesty.
She saw an opportunity to get rid of Trump, and so these kids equaled an opportunity to get rid of Trump and that’s why they took out after ’em. And that is true. That is true. That is why the knee-jerk reaction happened and why they don’t walk these things back. They’re still trying to hold on to this, some of these networks are.
RUSH: Rich in Ithaca in New York, it’s great to have you on the program, sir. Hello.
CALLER: Hey, Rush, good to talk to you.
RUSH: Thank you.
CALLER: Just a comment about the Savannah Guthrie interview and the comment the priest made about the young man not being able to or not having the right to wear his “Make America Great Again” hat. That would be like me telling the priest that he has no right to wear his collar or his priestly clerics because his priestly wardrobe offends me.
RUSH: You know, that’s a good point. The militant gays could easily say, “You know what? Your Catholic priest uniform, it triggers me ’cause I know you oppose me. You are making me…” That’s a good point. He shouldn’t be allowed. He shouldn’t be allowed to wear his Catholic priest uniform in public. Only in church, right? That’s your point.
CALLER: Well, yeah, it’s kind of the point. And, you know, I don’t know when that hat went against any uniform policy for the Catholic school and maybe that’s what his point was but it sounded more like a general thing like he didn’t even have a right to wear that —
RUSH: That wasn’t his point. The guy is a Never Trumper. That was purely political. There’s no question about that. Look. A lot of people, a lot of people think that the hat is a trigger and if the kids hadn’t been wearing it a bunch of things that had happened wouldn’t have happened. What if that’s true? What if that’s true? You can’t just isolate these incidents ’cause that becomes one, then, of many. So the message is, “You conservatives have got to stop public displays of what you believe.
“You’re causing too many people go crazy. So you can’t… You can’t wear a Trump for president button, can’t wear a ‘Make America Great Again’ hat.” We’re getting to the point where the American flag is a trigger. Only have certain… (impression) “That flag makes me think of slavery! That flag makes me think of stress and… That flag…” If we don’t shut this garbage kind of thinking down at some point, we’re dealing with a bunch of kids specially, immature, childlike people who need to be told to grow up and stood up to.