RUSH: We start on the phones in Nanuet, New York. This is Frances. Great to have you. How are you doing?
CALLER: I’m doing great. What an honor, Rush.
RUSH: Thank you.
CALLER: So excited to talk to you.
RUSH: I appreciate that. Thank you very much.
CALLER: So my comment is —
CALLER: — I don’t understand why everyone seems to have forgotten James Comey’s May 3rd testimony. He was asked by one of the female senators if the administration could stop an investigation, and he said in theory, yes, but it hasn’t happened in his experience, because it would be a very big deal. That seems to have dropped off the radar. I mean, that was while he was still FBI director —
CALLER: — and way after he supposedly felt this terrible pressure from Trump. So what’s up with that?
RUSH: I’m not sure I understand what the question is.
CALLER: The question is, why is nobody talking about it? Why is no one defending the president based on Comey’s own words?
RUSH: Okay, I’m confused. You say Comey says that the investigation can never be stopped.
CALLER: No. He actually said, “In theory, yes.” But he said it’s never happened in his experience because, you know, it would be a very big deal. In other words, it could be done but it would be wrong and he’s never had it happen. And it was televised at the time, and a few commenters, you know, said, “Well, there,” you know. And then he was fired a few days later, and suddenly, you know, from never having happened, suddenly he was just pressured. And it seems like everyone has forgotten that testimony.
RUSH: I don’t know what you’re asking me. I’m confused. Wait a minute. Here’s what it says on the screen that you wanted to talk about. “Senator asked him if president was able to stop investigation. Comey said yes, in theory, but it never happened.” Okay, what’s so important about that to remember?
CALLER: Because it clears Trump of obstruction. He said no one —
CALLER: — never asked him or pressured him.
RUSH: Well, see, this is the reason for the confusion. We spent some time yesterday. I explained why Trump didn’t obstruct based on Comey, but not this. I see what you’re getting at now. You’re saying that Trump couldn’t have obstructed because Comey says he could shut down the investigation. Let me tell you what happened. That’s still a gray area. What did happen is that on February 14th, dinner in the White House with Comey, only Comey and Trump, and that is where Comey alleges that Trump asks him to end the thing on Flynn. “Can you maybe let it go. Can you see yourself clear, can you see it clear to let it go.”
Comey did not tell anybody at the time that was obstruction. He didn’t feel like he’d been obstructed. He didn’t think anything. Because six weeks later on March 30th he said for the third time Trump is not a suspect, and he told Congress. So on Valentine’s Day, Trump allegedly obstructs Comey, except Comey didn’t report that to anybody and didn’t think it. Only after Comey got fired did he change his story and say, “I was really worried. I felt like Trump was trying to obstruct my investigation.”
The real explanation is, there wasn’t any obstruction because Trump only did it once. He didn’t follow up. He didn’t continue to pressure Comey, “By the way, when are you gonna left the Flynn thing go? I told you I wanted to let it go.” That’s another point. Time is dwindling here. He invested the decision in Comey. He said, “I hope you will find a way to see clear.” He didn’t say, “Drop it, Comey. Just let it go.” He didn’t do that.
He left it to Comey’s decision. There wasn’t any obstruction. And there isn’t any evidence of the money laundering! Folks, even now, I don’t care what you’re seeing in the news, there is no evidence of anything that Trump has done, related to leaks or not, that you’re reading about in the paper today.
RUSH: Okay. I finally understand what the caller was saying. It’s a good point. She was talking about the Comey testimony before the senator from Hawaii. She said nobody had ever asked him to stop an investigation, presidents don’t do that, and of course that’s long after Trump had allegedly told Comey to let the Flynn thing go. So the evidence is clear that Comey multiple times cleared Trump publicly of any obstruction. That was her point. Good one.